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Post by monksnun on May 3, 2016 14:31:04 GMT
Mick Mills the moral arbiter
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 3, 2016 14:35:29 GMT
Every 20 years or so, English football produces a story, go back 20 years it's Blackburn, then before that Forest, then Cullis' Wovles in the 50s, then Chapman's Huddersfield in the 20s.
It's great when it happens, but it's never a monumental shift in momentum, Liverpool saw off Forest, Man United saw off Blackburn and I dare say one of Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, Man United will see of Leicester.
But it's a miracle that it happened, and can only be good for the game.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 3, 2016 14:36:05 GMT
who's said they're revelling in Leicester winning the title though mate??? absolutely no-one!!!! a few people have said well done (deservedly) and that it gives hope to fans of smaller clubs, THAT'S ALL!!!! you seem to have got a bee in your bonnet about things you seem to be making up or words you seem to be putting into people's mouths that they certainly haven't said and you've arbitrarily decided you think they mean (purely because it suits your bizarre ire). being a good sport and congratulating those that have done well (particularly when it's against the odds and against the grain of what's gone before) is actually a positive facet in the game. how the fuck you get from there to people now being "Leicester fans" who should "toddle off" god only knows! it's a bit "I'm a bigger Stoke fan than you because i slag off Leicester. never expected you be so hellbent on willfully misrepresenting what people have actually said and having such a small time, dick measuring outlook on who should or shouldn't "toddle off" down the A50 but hey ho I never said Stoke fans were revelling in Leicester's title win. I said they were revelling in the whole "Oh Huth has won the title, look at that" dick measuring bullshit that has been an absolute poison on this forum all season. There are fans who are clearly using this Leicester City thing to bash our own club, and if you can't see it, then you're not looking very hard. I've not put words in anyone's mouth. I've had people call me (and now a thread attacking me) all sorts of shit, all because I'm daring enough to express an opinion outside of the agreed agenda? There's nothing bizarre about my ire. I've simply stated a case that I'm happy for Robert Huth, but that doesn't make me happy for Leicester. Leicester should be congratulated for winning the title and I have done so in an appropriate fashion. I've not said I want us to somehow abstain from congratulating Leicester. They're worthy Champions, but I'm not going to sit here waxing lyrical about them. I focus on Stoke City, they're my club. it's a bit "I'm a bigger Stoke fan than you because i slag off Leicester". Oh, come off it Mick. You know that's not the point I'm making. I'm not saying I'm a better Stoke fan, but at the same time, there are some on here who seem to have an agenda purely focussed on attacking Stoke supporters and certain Stoke City players and staff member. You're now putting words in my mouth and what's more, they're complete horse shit. I haven't misrepresented anything. 1) people aren't having a go at you for having an opinion for fuck's sake and you know it!!! they've asked you to provide ANY kind of proof whatsoever for some very serious legal accusations you've been making for weeks. you HAVEN'T been willing to provide anything but are still banging on about it and wonder why people call you out on it? if YOU'RE making the accusations then the onus is on YOU to prove that. if you can't then you can expect people to get fucking bored with what seem to be nothing more than bizarre, tinpot conspiracy theories. 2) if you're pissed off with particular posters who are using Leicester as a way to beat Stoke then why not address your posts to them? NO-ONE has done that on this thread so far, you've just gone off on one for deciding Rob was personally having a go at you (and he's right, that was embarrassingly egotisitical on your part) when there was literally nothing to base that on at all, just to have an excuse to go off on someone. in fact, he was the first person on here you told to "toddle off"...therefore, if you could point me in the direction where he was slagging off Stoke because of Leicester's success i'd be interested to see it please because i've never once seen him do that (and that is exactly the reason you're giving for your anger...care to provide that evidence?)
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 3, 2016 14:36:48 GMT
Mick Mills the moral arbiter not at all..i just don't like people making things up just to justify their posts, simple really.
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Post by Pugsley on May 3, 2016 14:40:22 GMT
Not even Nostradamus could have predicted them to win the league. This win is a complete one-off, this doesn't open any doors for other clubs. The only people this helps is the PL (They will now be advertising it as the title anybody can win) Media (they're all wanking off Leicester and it's selling a shit load of papers) and Leicester for the obvious reasons. Don't forget the Bookies. I'd imagine every mug punter will be putting money on their team to 'do a Leicester' next season.
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Post by metalhead on May 3, 2016 14:43:59 GMT
Bullshit, pure, unrefined, untainted, bullshit.... then why go on about "I'm A stoke fan , i support stoke..they can all toddle off down the A50" and all that arsegravy? your posts on this thread have been nothing short of embarrassing mate and, no offence, this response is no better. don't bother addressing any points whatsoever just insult? what the fuck has happened to the real metalhead, this one is acting like a spoilt kid throwing a fucking tantrum! if you can address the points raised then fair enough if you're just going to respond with those kinds of posts then i stick by my "childish" tag i gave you...you've kinda proved my point! I addressed your points earlier. Perhaps you missed that reply. I merely responded to this one appropriately, because you've quite evidently made up your mind about me. I've just gone through and read my posts again and exactly what have I said that's wrong? Chiefdelilah has spent the last few days (weeks maybe) attacking pretty much everything I've said and tbh, I grew sick of it. He had seconds earlier made a comment about me enjoying the big clubs domination(?), which is utter cat piss, so it was natural to assume that this second remark was also directed at me, even if it was ambiguous. It's a bit like calling someone a twat and then saying "I don't like twats". The individual labelled 'twat' would tend to assume he/she was the target of that remark. To chiefdelilah, I apologize if I was wrong in assuming that. Even so, semantics.... I also don't agree with the assertions he made, regarding this being a victory for 'small clubs'. I've also tried to address my points by adding some context to my reasoning. Either that's gone totally over your head or you're projecting so hard you've totally missed it. It seems to me that certain people have become the moral judge for what's acceptable to say nowadays on the Oatcake, and me expressing a less than positive opinion about this topic has wound them up. Anyway, Mick, no hard feelings. I actually respect your opinion and I'd like to think that you still respect mine. I think I'm going to take a break from the Oatie, I can't be arsed with the poison that is HuthGate and it's not going away any time soon, is it?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 3, 2016 14:51:41 GMT
then why go on about "I'm A stoke fan , i support stoke..they can all toddle off down the A50" and all that arsegravy? your posts on this thread have been nothing short of embarrassing mate and, no offence, this response is no better. don't bother addressing any points whatsoever just insult? what the fuck has happened to the real metalhead, this one is acting like a spoilt kid throwing a fucking tantrum! if you can address the points raised then fair enough if you're just going to respond with those kinds of posts then i stick by my "childish" tag i gave you...you've kinda proved my point! I addressed your points earlier. Perhaps you missed that reply. I merely responded to this one appropriately, because you've quite evidently made up your mind about me. I've just gone through and read my posts again and exactly what have I said that's wrong? Chiefdelilah has spent the last few days (weeks maybe) attacking pretty much everything I've said and tbh, I grew sick of it. He had seconds earlier made a comment about me enjoying the big clubs domination(?), which is utter cat piss, so it was natural to assume that this second remark was also directed at me, even if it was ambiguous. It's a bit like calling someone a twat and then saying "I don't like twats". The individual labelled 'twat' would tend to assume he/she was the target of that remark. To chiefdelilah, I apologize if I was wrong in assuming that. Even so, semantics.... I also don't agree with the assertions he made, regarding this being a victory for 'small clubs'. I've also tried to address my points by adding some context to my reasoning. Either that's gone totally over your head or you're projecting so hard you've totally missed it. It seems to me that certain people have become the moral judge for what's acceptable to say nowadays on the Oatcake, and me expressing a less than positive opinion about this topic has wound them up. Anyway, Mick, no hard feelings. I actually respect your opinion and I'd like to think that you still respect mine. I think I'm going to take a break from the Oatie, I can't be arsed with the poison that is HuthGate and it's not going away any time soon, is it? you're just completely burying your head in the sand here....no-one has ever (as far as i've seen) had a go at you for simply not "celebrating" Leicester's title. no-one would have an issue with that! the truth however (which you are conveniently completely ignoring) is that for weeks on end you've hijacked virtually every thread where Leicester have been mentioned to accuse them of doping...many, many,many people have asked you time and time again to provide ANY proof whatsoever. not only have you not done so but you've then gone off crying saying that people are slagging you of simply for not liking Leicester when that isn't even close to to the truth but you hope it deflects from having no answers to their queries regarding your allegations. you know full well why some have got pissed off with you over this situation and it's NOTHING to do with simply "not enjoying" their title win. to represent this whole situation as if that's all it's about is completely, 100% disingenuous of you.
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Post by metalhead on May 3, 2016 14:56:42 GMT
I addressed your points earlier. Perhaps you missed that reply. I merely responded to this one appropriately, because you've quite evidently made up your mind about me. I've just gone through and read my posts again and exactly what have I said that's wrong? Chiefdelilah has spent the last few days (weeks maybe) attacking pretty much everything I've said and tbh, I grew sick of it. He had seconds earlier made a comment about me enjoying the big clubs domination(?), which is utter cat piss, so it was natural to assume that this second remark was also directed at me, even if it was ambiguous. It's a bit like calling someone a twat and then saying "I don't like twats". The individual labelled 'twat' would tend to assume he/she was the target of that remark. To chiefdelilah, I apologize if I was wrong in assuming that. Even so, semantics.... I also don't agree with the assertions he made, regarding this being a victory for 'small clubs'. I've also tried to address my points by adding some context to my reasoning. Either that's gone totally over your head or you're projecting so hard you've totally missed it. It seems to me that certain people have become the moral judge for what's acceptable to say nowadays on the Oatcake, and me expressing a less than positive opinion about this topic has wound them up. Anyway, Mick, no hard feelings. I actually respect your opinion and I'd like to think that you still respect mine. I think I'm going to take a break from the Oatie, I can't be arsed with the poison that is HuthGate and it's not going away any time soon, is it? you're just completely burying your head in the sand here....no-one has ever (as far as i've seen) had a go at you for simply not "celebrating" Leicester's title. no-one would have an issue with that! the truth however (which you are conveniently completely ignoring) is that for weeks on end you've hijacked virtually every thread where Leicester have been mentioned to accuse them of doping... many, many,many people have asked you time and time again to provide ANY proof whatsoever. not only have you not done so but you've then gone off crying saying that people are slagging you of simply for not liking Leicester when that isn't even close to to the truth but you hope it deflects from having no answers to their queries regarding your allegations. you know full well why some have got pissed off with you over this situation and it's NOTHING to do with simply "not enjoying" their title win. to represent this whole situation as if that's all it's about is completely, 100% disingenuous of you. If I had proof, I would be an accessory to a crime. It's a bit like saying Maddie McCann died in her apartment. We don't have proof of it, but she died in her apartment..... let's be honest, we all know it. Now I appreciate the Leicester situation is not as cut and dry as that. When you suggest that I've spent weeks hijacking threads, you again conveniently ignore that I did give some context many weeks ago and still was given a disproportionate amount of abuse.... for highlighting what? Some irregularities in their meteoric rise to success? Is it really that unacceptable to throw the question out there? Yes, there are some threads where I've made comments, but to suggest I hijacked them is bullshit, once again....
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Post by monksnun on May 3, 2016 15:27:00 GMT
Why do people assume that not enjoying a rivals success eqautes to being bitter or jealous? Many hate Liverpool or Manchester United for winning. Whether it's Leicester Manchester United or York City i'm not happy because it's not us Stoke City that aren't succesful. I am a fan of Stoke City i want us to win everything,other teams are our obstacle not a gentle reminder we can all win stuff not enjoying their success is one thing, no-one has as an issue with that. the people that are being slagged off for being bitter are those that have specifically done everything they can to disparage a fine achievement. that's Not simply a case of them just "not enjoying" it. if you read metalhead's posts i think it's clear there's a big difference between simply "not enjoying" and "being bitter" as he's gone out of his way to slag them off and throw around completely unfounded accusations on every thread he possibly can for weeks now however. he isn't simply "not enjoying" their success. he's on a bloody mission to belittle everything they've done and is now claiming he's a bigger Stoke fan than everyone else because of it and everyone who thinks Leicester have done well can "toddle off" down the A50......when it strays into those puerile, juvenile, anatagonistic and accusatory realms then i'm sorry, he's going to get shit from people by being so high and mighty about it and rightly so! what the hell ever happened to "Sportsmanship" for god's sake?????? Sportsmanship like Corithian spirit is for ameatuers
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 3, 2016 16:30:04 GMT
then why go on about "I'm A stoke fan , i support stoke..they can all toddle off down the A50" and all that arsegravy? your posts on this thread have been nothing short of embarrassing mate and, no offence, this response is no better. don't bother addressing any points whatsoever just insult? what the fuck has happened to the real metalhead, this one is acting like a spoilt kid throwing a fucking tantrum! if you can address the points raised then fair enough if you're just going to respond with those kinds of posts then i stick by my "childish" tag i gave you...you've kinda proved my point! I addressed your points earlier. Perhaps you missed that reply. I merely responded to this one appropriately, because you've quite evidently made up your mind about me. I've just gone through and read my posts again and exactly what have I said that's wrong? Chiefdelilah has spent the last few days (weeks maybe) attacking pretty much everything I've said and tbh, I grew sick of it. He had seconds earlier made a comment about me enjoying the big clubs domination(?), which is utter cat piss, so it was natural to assume that this second remark was also directed at me, even if it was ambiguous. It's a bit like calling someone a twat and then saying "I don't like twats". The individual labelled 'twat' would tend to assume he/she was the target of that remark. To chiefdelilah, I apologize if I was wrong in assuming that. Even so, semantics.... I also don't agree with the assertions he made, regarding this being a victory for 'small clubs'. I've also tried to address my points by adding some context to my reasoning. Either that's gone totally over your head or you're projecting so hard you've totally missed it. It seems to me that certain people have become the moral judge for what's acceptable to say nowadays on the Oatcake, and me expressing a less than positive opinion about this topic has wound them up. Anyway, Mick, no hard feelings. I actually respect your opinion and I'd like to think that you still respect mine. I think I'm going to take a break from the Oatie, I can't be arsed with the poison that is HuthGate and it's not going away any time soon, is it? It was a general post about a general feeling expounded by a number of posters on here. If you're precious enough to interpret it as a dig at you, that's really not my problem.
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Post by stokefc on May 3, 2016 17:17:58 GMT
well...the pundits and experts got it wrong in fact everybody got it wrong except a few drunken Leicester fans,well done the foxes
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