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Post by followyoudown on Apr 27, 2016 16:45:43 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36148704Quite extraordinary her social media output was not vetted prior to be allowed to stand as MP for Bradford. Even more so she was not suspended as soon as this came to light and instead her own apology was edited by Labour to take out reference to anti semitism. So this is the new politics of honesty and integrity Jezza promised, I believe Labour have a vacancy for a Brewery Party Events Manager.
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Post by themistocles on Apr 27, 2016 17:03:51 GMT
It'll be brushed under the carpet because it's the labour party...
I wonder what mconnels view considering he slated Boris as racist for referring that Obama had Kenyan heritage.
Better yet what does huddysextremeleftfoot think of this latest in a long line of anti-semitism in the labour party.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 27, 2016 17:10:58 GMT
It'll be brushed under the carpet because it's the labour party... I wonder what mconnels view considering he slated Boris as racist for referring that Obama had Kenyan heritage. Better yet what does huddysextremeleftfoot think of this latest in a long line of anti-semitism in the labour party. Tweeted support of Hamas who else in Labour is a friend of Hamas.... McDonnell fired her to be fair, her aide has been suspended for also tweeting anti semitic views but Ken has said she is not anti semitic, no news if he added enough at the end. She should be sacked as an MP, inconceivable her social output would not have been checked prior to her standing as an MP. |
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 27, 2016 17:16:15 GMT
It'll be brushed under the carpet because it's the labour party... I wonder what mconnels view considering he slated Boris as racist for referring that Obama had Kenyan heritage. Better yet what does huddysextremeleftfoot think of this latest in a long line of anti-semitism in the labour party. Another racist bitch in the Labour Party no surprise then, she should form an allegiance with racist bigot Abbott, but will it be called racism as neither of them are white. |
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Post by themistocles on Apr 27, 2016 17:17:16 GMT
It'll be brushed under the carpet because it's the labour party... I wonder what mconnels view considering he slated Boris as racist for referring that Obama had Kenyan heritage. Better yet what does huddysextremeleftfoot think of this latest in a long line of anti-semitism in the labour party. Tweeted support of Hamas who else in Labour is a friend of Hamas.... McDonnell fired her to be fair, her aide has been suspended for also tweeting anti semitic views but Ken has said she is not anti semitic, no news if he added enough at the end. She should be sacked as an MP, inconceivable her social output would not have been checked prior to her standing as an MP. Any other party sacked instantly. They have a major problem with anti-Semitism and I fail to see what's being done to root it out. |
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Post by Skankmonkey on Apr 27, 2016 17:27:25 GMT
I've made the point before, anti-Semitism is racism and those of us who are critical of some of the actions of the Israeli state, or are anti-Zionist in a more general way, need to be bloody sure both of ourselves and of the language and arguments we use.
Anti-Semitism like all racism is for scum.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 27, 2016 17:29:24 GMT
There are certain people who'd be on this thread like a tramp on Special Brew if it was a Tory or UKIP MP.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 27, 2016 17:48:25 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 27, 2016 19:17:32 GMT
She is not the first Labour MP to do this sort of thing and get away with a thinly veiled apology/blatant lie, the left wing on this board bang on about racism seemingly every other post, is anti-Semitism not a Nazi trait indeed one pursued by Adolph Hitler and the third Reich, I see that the usual suspects are absent from this thread, cue the apologies from them should they dare show their hypocritical heads above the parapets, it will be a silly remark as was Diane Abbott's racist attack on white people. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 19:24:36 GMT
I've made the point before, anti-Semitism is racism and those of us who are critical of some of the actions of the Israeli state, or are anti-Zionist in a more general way, need to be bloody sure both of ourselves and of the language and arguments we use. Anti-Semitism like all racism is for scum. So in short Jews are a Race
Judaism is a religion
www.jewfaq.org/judaism.htm Interesting read
Complicated but then again why hate anyone based on Religion or Race surely everyone deserves a fair shake of the dice.?
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Post by Skankmonkey on Apr 27, 2016 19:27:45 GMT
I've made the point before, anti-Semitism is racism and those of us who are critical of some of the actions of the Israeli state, or are anti-Zionist in a more general way, need to be bloody sure both of ourselves and of the language and arguments we use. Anti-Semitism like all racism is for scum. So in short Jews are a Race
Judaism is a religion
www.jewfaq.org/judaism.htm Interesting read
Complicated but then again why hate anyone based on Religion or Race surely everyone deserves a fair shake of the dice.?
Quite right riv. And Zionism is a political concept. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 27, 2016 19:41:43 GMT
It'll be brushed under the carpet because it's the labour party... I wonder what mconnels view considering he slated Boris as racist for referring that Obama had Kenyan heritage. Better yet what does huddysextremeleftfoot think of this latest in a long line of anti-semitism in the labour party. Not sure why you're singling me out here as my views are no different than any other decent person. Remarks made were out of order, whatever punishment comer her way will be justified. |
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Post by manmarking on Apr 27, 2016 19:45:32 GMT
It'll be brushed under the carpet because it's the labour party... I wonder what mconnels view considering he slated Boris as racist for referring that Obama had Kenyan heritage. Better yet what does huddysextremeleftfoot think of this latest in a long line of anti-semitism in the labour party. Another racist bitch in the Labour Party no surprise then, she should form an allegiance with racist bigot Abbott, but will it be called racism as neither of them are white. You're one of the most racist people on this board carps - why on earth would you give a flying fuck about other people being racist?  |
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Post by manmarking on Apr 27, 2016 19:51:49 GMT
She is not the first Labour MP to do this sort of thing and get away with a thinly veiled apology/blatant lie, the left wing on this board bang on about racism seemingly every other post, is anti-Semitism not a Nazi trait indeed one pursued by Adolph Hitler and the third Reich, I see that the usual suspects are absent from this thread, cue the apologies from them should they dare show their hypocritical heads above the parapets, it will be a silly remark as was Diane Abbott's racist attack on white people. Hitler was also anti-Muslim so by your own logic, you're a nazi racist apologist. Not that that constitutes news in any way |
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 27, 2016 21:17:50 GMT
It'll be brushed under the carpet because it's the labour party... I wonder what mconnels view considering he slated Boris as racist for referring that Obama had Kenyan heritage. Better yet what does huddysextremeleftfoot think of this latest in a long line of anti-semitism in the labour party. Not sure why you're singling me out here as my views are no different than any other decent person. Remarks made were out of order, whatever punishment comer her way will be justified. Whatever punishment comer her way it will not be representational of her racist agenda, nasty Nazi racist Labour MP should fit in well. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 27, 2016 21:57:49 GMT
Not sure why you're singling me out here as my views are no different than any other decent person. Remarks made were out of order, whatever punishment comer her way will be justified. Whatever punishment comer her way it will not be representational of her racist agenda, nasty Nazi racist Labour MP should fit in well. You don't half talk some bollocks. |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 28, 2016 5:19:39 GMT
It'll be brushed under the carpet because it's the labour party... I wonder what mconnels view considering he slated Boris as racist for referring that Obama had Kenyan heritage. Better yet what does huddysextremeleftfoot think of this latest in a long line of anti-semitism in the labour party. Not sure why you're singling me out here as my views are no different than any other decent person. Remarks made were out of order, whatever punishment comer her way will be justified. It's clear there's not going to be any real punishment when the decent honest man of integrity that is your Jezza says in the morning she will not be suspended only to be forced in the afternoon to change it to they agree she will be suspended. Far worse is the fact that the redacting of her own apology to remove mention of anti semitism came directly from Corbyn's office. |
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Post by Skankmonkey on Apr 28, 2016 11:16:07 GMT
Thread could have done without the Kommandant showing up. Poor taste carpslayer. Did you snipe that cheap barbed wire I put you onto?
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Post by Rick Grimes on Apr 28, 2016 11:46:48 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36148704Quite extraordinary her social media output was not vetted prior to be allowed to stand as MP for Bradford. Even more so she was not suspended as soon as this came to light and instead her own apology was edited by Labour to take out reference to anti semitism. So this is the new politics of honesty and integrity Jezza promised, I believe Labour have a vacancy for a Brewery Party Events Manager. Someone who holds such views isn't fit to be an MP. If she doesn't have the decency to resign she should be sacked. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 28, 2016 12:37:41 GMT
Livingstone now suspended from the Labour party
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 28, 2016 13:35:35 GMT
Livingstone now suspended from the Labour party It's PC gone made when you can't say on National TV / radio that Hitler was a Zionist or maybe not...... A spectacularly stupid thing to say when trying to defend Nas Shah, her tweets in support of Hamas means she has no place as a MP , From Guido Fawkes this is what Amnesty international had to say about how Hamas treated Palestinian prisoners during the 2014 Gaza war “ "There were marks of torture and bullet shots on his body. His arms and legs were broken… his body was as if you’d put it in a bag and smashed it… His body was riddled with about 30 bullets. He had slaughter marks around his neck, marks of knives… And from behind the head – there was no brain. Empty… It was difficult for us to carry him… He was heavy, like when you put meat in a bag; no bones. His bones were smashed. They broke him in the prison” And these are people Jezza and Nas call friends and support, I wonder what it is about this group of people who want to obliterate Israel that makes them so attractive to certain Labour members. |
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Post by Skankmonkey on Apr 28, 2016 13:50:53 GMT
Agreed. There is little quarter given regarding Fatah. Bloody, bloody business. The divide in the Palestinian opposition is disastrous for them.. None of the splits in the '70s come close. Second only to the Nakhba itself.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 28, 2016 14:04:51 GMT
It's actually hard to disagree with her comments, but there we go.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 28, 2016 16:48:35 GMT
It's actually hard to disagree with her comments, but there we go. No actually it really isn't. |
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Post by themistocles on Apr 28, 2016 17:06:41 GMT
It's actually hard to disagree with her comments, but there we go. You agree with antisemitic comments ... |
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Post by manmarking on Apr 28, 2016 17:59:53 GMT
Well I've read the comments and they're significantly tamer than what any number of dullards on here have said about Muslims over the years. For one of the worst offenders - carpslayer - to come on this thread preaching anti-racism like he's suddenly Stoke City's answer to Martin Luther King is absurdity itself. If you're anti-one kind of racism and not another then like it or not you're still a racist. It's a pity that Livingstone allowed a couple of very salient points - about the Israel lobby and about people wilfully confusing criticism of Israel with racism - to be overshadowed by some baffling, irrelevant and concerning comments about Hitler. Both Shah and Livingstone correctly suspended. A perfect example of how politicians can do nothing illegal and yet still be unfit for office. I notice some on this thread were claiming the exact opposite in the Cameron/Panama row. Surprise surprise |
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 28, 2016 18:01:15 GMT
Whatever punishment comer her way it will not be representational of her racist agenda, nasty Nazi racist Labour MP should fit in well. You don't half talk some bollocks. So her remarks were not racist then, now that is bollocks even by your standards, it appears your beloved party is rife with racist's well who would have thought it hypocrites. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 28, 2016 18:18:21 GMT
As an aside, but an important one, this whole debate/issue suggests to me why this particular Labour regime will never get elected. I think that they are sincere about some issues such as the plight of the Palestinians, but they have no idea how to handle the media and criticism from their opponents. They think that they don't have to be media savy (or should not have to be) as long as they tell "the truth" as they see it. Unfortunately in today's political climate they need to be. They will be portrayed as dinosaurs who have not got the practical pragmatic answers to the big issues. They will satisfy the thoughtful intellectual left wing voter but won't convince the ordinary working class man in the street, nor those in the decisive marginal seats.
John Mann's behaviour was also disgraceful. The Tories must be laughing
A protest party.
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Post by manmarking on Apr 28, 2016 18:23:05 GMT
You don't half talk some bollocks. So her remarks were not racist then, now that is bollocks even by your standards, it appears your beloved party is rife with racist's well who would have thought it hypocrites. Carps you're one of the most racist people on here so why don't you just go back to eating mudskippers and crayons and leave the marginally more self-aware of us to have a sensible discussion. It's past your bedtime  |
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Post by metalhead on Apr 28, 2016 18:38:33 GMT
It's actually hard to disagree with her comments, but there we go. No actually it really isn't. Depends which way you view Israel really doesn't it? |
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