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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 25, 2016 15:46:50 GMT
As talented as he is with the ball at times , his back tracking can be woeful, just watching the game again and he simply does not work back or track his runners , you cant get away with that in this league , certainly not without getting punished for it .
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Post by nonameface on Apr 25, 2016 16:34:22 GMT
It has been very poor to date. Some people will comment on new surroundings, can't speak the language but these aren't real issues for the lack of defensive play. Fortunately being able to run back for someone with his mobility should be quite a quick fix by Hughes and will make a significant difference to our team, because it's creating far too much space for the opposition. Then when he mixes play up more between taking someone on or passing it off he will be amazing and we will have to sell him to Europe's biggest... all going well of course.
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Post by loosestools on Apr 25, 2016 17:41:54 GMT
Probably needs - wait for it - 'a full pre season'
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 25, 2016 17:43:44 GMT
he's clearly a class player who's strengths are going forward. For me I'd look at playing him in front of 2 defensive midfielders.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Apr 25, 2016 17:44:30 GMT
Probably needs more support from the 'fans' and a little patience.
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Post by Scrotnig on Apr 25, 2016 17:46:12 GMT
Probably needs more support from the 'fans' and a little patience. Eh? Since when did we ever do that? Don't talk shite!
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 25, 2016 17:46:16 GMT
he's clearly a class player who's strengths are going forward. For me I'd look at playing him in front of 2 defensive midfielders. At the moment I would try him at CB , he can play the ball out from the back and let's face it he can not be much worse than we have now.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 25, 2016 17:47:16 GMT
Probably needs - wait for it - 'a full pre season' Not that old chestnut.
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Post by Gods on Apr 25, 2016 17:47:50 GMT
He seems to lose the ball an awful lot.
The finished product he certainly ain't, but there is a very good footballer somewhere in that languid frame trying to escape though, I am sure of that.
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Post by retired1 on Apr 25, 2016 17:49:01 GMT
Probably needs more support from the 'fans' and a little patience. More in need of support from the rest of the team.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 25, 2016 17:57:39 GMT
Probably needs more support from the 'fans' and a little patience. More in need of support from the rest of the team. Are we a team or a bunch of individuals, they are playing as if they have never met one another before let alone train and play together, something has gone badly wrong since the loss in the semi to Liverpool, the manager has to sort it out can not help feeling that a little bit of passion from our management team during the game might spur some of our players on to at least try.
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 25, 2016 18:00:02 GMT
For the price we paid, I'd expect a much more rounded player. Not knocking the Boys talent, I feel we paid for the potential in the lad. Needs a lot of work on the defensive side and strength work, along with cooling his anger!
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Post by werrington on Apr 25, 2016 18:01:20 GMT
Only Stoke fans eh
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 18:06:12 GMT
Begging to loan him to Notts Forest by August.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 25, 2016 18:06:58 GMT
He seems to lose the ball an awful lot. The finished product he certainly ain't, but there is a very good footballer somewhere in that languid frame trying to escape though, I am sure of that. Reminds me of the Zonz when he first came, a very expensive version! is he what we needed for the here and now probably not, time will tell if this pays off because we have invested very heavily in one for the future.
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Post by borat on Apr 25, 2016 18:07:27 GMT
Like i said fantastic on the ball wank off it.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 25, 2016 18:11:20 GMT
Agreed. Imbula is far from the finished article but lazy is not the word I would use to describe him. He's obviously not been expected (or coached?) at his previous clubs to do all the things we need him to do - but that doesn't make him lazy - it makes him talented but with a good bit to learn. The Premier League has plenty of highly talented foreign imports who took at least a season to adapt to the English game. Quite why Imbula should be branded as lazy because he hasn't adapted his game in less than 3 months is a bit baffling. Actually, I am talking bollox - it isn't baffling at all - because this is a Stoke message board.
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Post by werrington on Apr 25, 2016 18:14:09 GMT
Agreed. Imbula is far from the finished article but lazy is not the word I would use to describe him. He's obviously not been expected (or coached?) at his previous clubs to do all the things we need him to do - but that doesn't make him lazy - it makes him talented but with a good bit to learn. The Premier League has plenty of highly talented foreign imports who took at least a season to adapt to the English game. Quite why Imbula should be branded as lazy because he hasn't adapted his game in less than 3 months is a bit baffling. Actually, I am talking bollox - it isn't baffling at all - because this is a Stoke message board. They hate positive forward thinking players mate It's no coincidence they are only loyal a certain ex employee and the players he and only he purchased It's pathetic
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 18:17:11 GMT
Biggest flop since Kitson.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 25, 2016 18:21:58 GMT
I love positive thinking players but they have to defend too or you keep losing lots of goals just in case you had not noticed . Imbula is letting men run past him and just trotting back and its costing us .
He is talented but it must be sorted out
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Post by jezzascfc on Apr 25, 2016 18:23:05 GMT
I'd rather we had a very talented player who needed to adjust to the pace and requirements of the English game than a headless chicken who could run all day with no technical ability whatsoever!
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 25, 2016 18:24:42 GMT
Id say Arnie is positive but he usually understands that there is a defensive shift to be done too , so does Diouf , the others need to do their share of defensive work too
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 25, 2016 18:25:57 GMT
Agreed easier to work with him because he has ability but he does need to do the work
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 25, 2016 18:29:59 GMT
Yes, he's bone idle. So is Arnie. So was N'Zonzi, the sulky mard arsed twat we have never replaced.
Scapegoat, anyone?
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Post by nutterpotter on Apr 25, 2016 18:30:58 GMT
Arnie didn't track back at all when he first came. Look how that's changed.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 25, 2016 18:34:50 GMT
he's clearly a class player who's strengths are going forward. For me I'd look at playing him in front of 2 defensive midfielders. Who would you drop to accommodate him in that role, though?
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Post by roylandstoke on Apr 25, 2016 18:41:59 GMT
More in need of support from the rest of the team. Are we a team or a bunch of individuals, they are playing as if they have never met one another before let alone train and play together, something has gone badly wrong since the loss in the semi to Liverpool, the manager has to sort it out can not help feeling that a little bit of passion from our management team during the game might spur some of our players on to at least try. Our run of injuries has meant that we are struggling to build up teamwork and understanding. The players don't get to train with each other when they are injured nor do they get the chance to work together in match conditions. Imbula does need to adapt to the pace of our league. So far he has shown potential but not real form. I expect Hughes is aware of the situation as much as we are and is constantly reminding the player of the required improvements.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 18:43:56 GMT
Agreed. Imbula is far from the finished article but lazy is not the word I would use to describe him. He's obviously not been expected (or coached?) at his previous clubs to do all the things we need him to do - but that doesn't make him lazy - it makes him talented but with a good bit to learn. The Premier League has plenty of highly talented foreign imports who took at least a season to adapt to the English game. Quite why Imbula should be branded as lazy because he hasn't adapted his game in less than 3 months is a bit baffling. Actually, I am talking bollox - it isn't baffling at all - because this is a Stoke message board. It's like Pugs slates Shaqiri for not being a 'prem' winger because he isn't good at the defensive side of the game. These things take time to be coached into a player in some cases, not everyone hits the ground running when they join a new club.
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Post by thestokielad on Apr 25, 2016 18:57:48 GMT
He was world class against chelsea and Watford, theres signs of a really good player but hes inconsistent and he doesn't look like hes settled in to the prem yet. He'll come good next season, same for shaq
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Post by wearepremierleague on Apr 25, 2016 19:01:17 GMT
Along with Arnie was our best player against City. He's been worse in home games in general, but our whole team has been shite in them games too.
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