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Post by crapslinger on Apr 30, 2016 16:25:24 GMT
Should of had that in the bag. Can't blame the manager for the shocking finishing. Correct but you can for poor signings. |
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Post by barcaontrent on Apr 30, 2016 16:27:41 GMT
Should of had that in the bag. Can't blame the manager for the shocking finishing. Correct but you can for poor signings. Agree. Shaq is dire. Joselu similar to pericard at the moment. Imbula gone right off the boil. |
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Post by nott1 on Apr 30, 2016 16:29:14 GMT
On another note, I seriously hope Shaq goes on a diet and stays out of the gym during pre season. There's something not quite right judging by how many times he falls over. Must be them cheap boots from Sports Direct. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 30, 2016 16:37:17 GMT
It was a penalty. Cameron rushing in as usual. Nobody to blame but ourselves for not finishing the game off. Walters wasn't fit and imbula should have put the game to bed. We paid 18 mill for a bloke with no right foot. Arnies miss in the first half was just as bad. Very unhappy i just watched the replay. If thats a penalty we might as well all go home Two minutes after the penalty everyone did go home. So you may have a point. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 16:38:24 GMT
Should of had that in the bag. Can't blame the manager for the shocking finishing. Well you can actually. Had the opportunity in January to buy a decent striker when it was clear we needed one. |
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Post by tijuanabrass on Apr 30, 2016 16:42:37 GMT
A soft penalty. Cameron had his hand on Defoe's back. Only those two know how strong that contact was but it was apparently forceful enough to take the little fellow's legs clean from under him. He was halfway to the ground before Geoff's foot made contact. Did Defoe buy it? Of course. Should Cameron have known better? Of course. Would we have cried blue murder if similar contact had gone unnoticed. You bet.
Big Sam feels that they really deserved the win. I thought they made us look better than we have been for weeks but the match stats imply we were second best on all but the scoreline
In the end it was wastefulness up front that cost us the points. The story of the season, really.
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 30, 2016 17:15:01 GMT
Can't win them all its football it happens
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 18:03:50 GMT
Big Sam is in cloud cuckoo land, the fat c. We more than deserved to win that. I'm piggin distraught!
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Post by stokiejoe on Apr 30, 2016 18:36:15 GMT
biggest lesson from the game, sign Arnie. Where would we buy similar for whatever we got for him. Can't see him going for the trigger price as plenty of clubs would be in for him. The moment he went off our attack failed.
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Post by tuum on Apr 30, 2016 18:38:28 GMT
How does Cameron play so well all game, and then suddenly decide to fly into the back of Defoe inside the box? Defoe had his back turned to goal! Just get tight and usher him wide/get a block in. Nothing good was ever going to come from steaming into the back of him. You can't even get tight these days. Andy Townsend made a valid point. Cameron put his hand in Defoes back.,..that told Defoe the 'con' was on. A soft penalty. Having said that. Pieters arm across Watmore was not subtle and could have been given. They didn't create too much but we failed to impose ourselves again. A bit of work to do pre-season. |
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Post by stokiejoe on Apr 30, 2016 18:53:50 GMT
Correct but you can for poor signings. Agree. Shaq is dire. Joselu similar to pericard at the moment. Imbula gone right off the boil. whisper it softly but I thought Ryan had some very dodgy moments |
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Post by jwhpotter on Apr 30, 2016 22:37:36 GMT
How the actual fuck have BBC given Defoe man of the match? He did nothing up until the pen
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 30, 2016 23:12:32 GMT
Would the ref have given that pen.in the 94th. min.at Old Trafford,the Etihad,Anfied or the Emerites?I don't think so.
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Post by musik on Apr 30, 2016 23:27:01 GMT
How the actual fuck have BBC given Defoe man of the match? He did nothing up until the pen Not surprised, he was always a treat, remembering that bicycle kick for instance. 1-1 was a pretty fair result, but maybe we should have won it. No clear cut chances either way. |
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Post by tijuanabrass on May 1, 2016 0:40:15 GMT
Agree. Shaq is dire. Joselu similar to pericard at the moment. Imbula gone right off the boil. whisper it softly but I thought Ryan had some very dodgy moments Also whisper softly that Arnie missed a sitter like imbula. He scored a goal put in a great shift and I wouldn't be without him. I'm just irritated by Imbula being the scapegoat de jour. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 8:51:32 GMT
Much better performance by the team I felt
but underlying this feeling
An Incredibly frustrating end to the game and the day Although, you could more than sense, it was coming.
Bonkers attitude by both team and crowd I thought.
Team was steadily backing off, incapable of keeping solid midfield possession, (still creating good breakthoughs and consistently missing them though).
The crowd (Well our crowd ) 'dead as a dodo'
last 20 minutes when, needed the most
offered no real support,
no real passion,
We sat impassive and were also deservingly rewarded by yet another disappointing result
What happened to roaring the team home through thick and thin ??????????
For sure we got problems - on and off the pitch presently
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Post by heworksardtho on May 1, 2016 10:57:29 GMT
Good to see Paul bracewell in there dugout now there was a good player for Stoke
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Post by haway on May 1, 2016 11:54:57 GMT
Even game, draw was a fair result - both teams were ultimately poor yesterday.
It was not a foul for your goal, it was a penalty for ours - Cameron doesn't even looked that shocked that it was given. There was also a handball in the first half by Cameron (I think it was him?) but the ref probably thought he didn't make contact with the ball.
I really rate Crouch mind, no one can really handle him in the air and I think you's should start him in the last 2 games too, you looked a lot more threatening hitting it in the air to him.
Your lot were okay in spells more often than we were, better than I thought given the utter worrying on here through the week - Imbula looked a handful but missing that chance is pathetic. Bardsley did what I thought and was solid, Haugaard wasn't tested whilst Shaq was very ineffective.
Ours were poor, probably the worst performance in a long time - the keeper & CBs were okay and Defoe + Watmore looked threatening; the rest can fuck off if they perform like that in the last 3 performances.
That penalty goal could be crucial, a last minute equaliser keeping it in our hands has the making of pushing us on against Chelsea, Everton & Watford.
1-1, can't complain, fair game lads.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 1, 2016 12:05:15 GMT
Even game, draw was a fair result - both teams were ultimately poor yesterday. It was not a foul for your goal, it was a penalty for ours - Cameron doesn't even looked that shocked that it was given. There was also a handball in the first half by Cameron (I think it was him?) but the ref probably thought he didn't make contact with the ball. I really rate Crouch mind, no one can really handle him in the air and I think you's should start him in the last 2 games too, you looked a lot more threatening hitting it in the air to him. Your lot were okay in spells more often than we were, better than I thought given the utter worrying on here through the week - Imbula looked a handful but missing that chance is pathetic. Bardsley did what I thought and was solid, Haugaard wasn't tested whilst Shaq was very ineffective. Ours were poor, probably the worst performance in a long time - the keeper & CBs were okay and Defoe + Watmore looked threatening; the rest can fuck off if they perform like that in the last 3 performances. That penalty goal could be crucial, a last minute equaliser keeping it in our hands has the making of pushing us on against Chelsea, Everton & Watford. 1-1, can't complain, fair game lads. I'd be worried if I were you mate. There weren’t too many players looking like they’d bleed to avoid relegation. You can understand us playing out the season in a pretty passive manner but your lot? Sad to say as well in Borini, M'Vila and Khazri you have players who are more interested in play acting and getting opposition players booked than digging you out of a hole. Big Fat Sam will never be able to take the high ground again when it comes to that sort of thing. Sorry to say that Newcastle look a much better side than you at the minute. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 12:07:51 GMT
Even game, draw was a fair result - both teams were ultimately poor yesterday. It was not a foul for your goal, it was a penalty for ours - Cameron doesn't even looked that shocked that it was given. There was also a handball in the first half by Cameron (I think it was him?) but the ref probably thought he didn't make contact with the ball. I really rate Crouch mind, no one can really handle him in the air and I think you's should start him in the last 2 games too, you looked a lot more threatening hitting it in the air to him. Your lot were okay in spells more often than we were, better than I thought given the utter worrying on here through the week - Imbula looked a handful but missing that chance is pathetic. Bardsley did what I thought and was solid, Haugaard wasn't tested whilst Shaq was very ineffective. Ours were poor, probably the worst performance in a long time - the keeper & CBs were okay and Defoe + Watmore looked threatening; the rest can fuck off if they perform like that in the last 3 performances. That penalty goal could be crucial, a last minute equaliser keeping it in our hands has the making of pushing us on against Chelsea, Everton & Watford. 1-1, can't complain, fair game lads. I'd be worried if I were you mate. There weren’t too many players looking like they’d bleed to avoid relegation. You can understand us playing out the season in a pretty passive manner but your lot? Sad to say as well in Borini, M'Vila and Khazri you have players who are more interested in play acting and getting opposition players booked than digging you out of a hole. Big Fat Sam will never be able to take the high ground again when it comes to that sort of thing. Sorry to say that Newcastle look a much better side than you at the minute. Spot on. Sunderland were deadful. |
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Post by haway on May 1, 2016 12:22:44 GMT
Even game, draw was a fair result - both teams were ultimately poor yesterday. It was not a foul for your goal, it was a penalty for ours - Cameron doesn't even looked that shocked that it was given. There was also a handball in the first half by Cameron (I think it was him?) but the ref probably thought he didn't make contact with the ball. I really rate Crouch mind, no one can really handle him in the air and I think you's should start him in the last 2 games too, you looked a lot more threatening hitting it in the air to him. Your lot were okay in spells more often than we were, better than I thought given the utter worrying on here through the week - Imbula looked a handful but missing that chance is pathetic. Bardsley did what I thought and was solid, Haugaard wasn't tested whilst Shaq was very ineffective. Ours were poor, probably the worst performance in a long time - the keeper & CBs were okay and Defoe + Watmore looked threatening; the rest can fuck off if they perform like that in the last 3 performances. That penalty goal could be crucial, a last minute equaliser keeping it in our hands has the making of pushing us on against Chelsea, Everton & Watford. 1-1, can't complain, fair game lads. I'd be worried if I were you mate. There weren’t too many players looking like they’d bleed to avoid relegation. You can understand us playing out the season in a pretty passive manner but your lot? Sad to say as well in Borini, M'Vila and Khazri you have players who are more interested in play acting and getting opposition players booked than digging you out of a hole. Big Fat Sam will never be able to take the high ground again when it comes to that sort of thing. Sorry to say that Newcastle look a much better side than you at the minute. They were poor yes, it's been a worrying trend away from home whilst at home the performances are on the up. You won't find me saying we weren't dreadful and not worried. In fact, I am expecting us to go down - we have been awful all season and it will be absolutely embarrassing on Newcastle & Norwich if they were to go down with us staying up. It's only due to Cameron's brain fart at the end of the game has kept some (admittedly, only a little) hope alive. Fact of the matter is we will draw at Watford so I think we need 4 points minimum from Chelsea & Everton at home, not going to happen and we are likely doomed. This was a great chance to pick up 3 points but we couldn't even perform decent up until the 75 minute mark where your lot became very lacklustre - quite clearly on the beach bar those who had a point to prove (Bardo, Adam, Crouch). Like I said though, 1-1 was a fair result and the stats do back that up. |
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Post by loosestools on May 1, 2016 15:09:30 GMT
I'd be worried if I were you mate. There weren’t too many players looking like they’d bleed to avoid relegation. You can understand us playing out the season in a pretty passive manner but your lot? Sad to say as well in Borini, M'Vila and Khazri you have players who are more interested in play acting and getting opposition players booked than digging you out of a hole. Big Fat Sam will never be able to take the high ground again when it comes to that sort of thing. Sorry to say that Newcastle look a much better side than you at the minute. They were poor yes, it's been a worrying trend away from home whilst at home the performances are on the up. You won't find me saying we weren't dreadful and not worried. In fact, I am expecting us to go down - we have been awful all season and it will be absolutely embarrassing on Newcastle & Norwich if they were to go down with us staying up. It's only due to Cameron's brain fart at the end of the game has kept some (admittedly, only a little) hope alive. Fact of the matter is we will draw at Watford so I think we need 4 points minimum from Chelsea & Everton at home, not going to happen and we are likely doomed. This was a great chance to pick up 3 points but we couldn't even perform decent up until the 75 minute mark where your lot became very lacklustre - quite clearly on the beach bar those who had a point to prove (Bardo, Adam, Crouch). Like I said though, 1-1 was a fair result and the stats do back that up. It was not a fair result, we were much better, and Im a very harsh critic of SCFC performances. Bollocks to stats. |
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Post by haway on May 1, 2016 16:21:56 GMT
They were poor yes, it's been a worrying trend away from home whilst at home the performances are on the up. You won't find me saying we weren't dreadful and not worried. In fact, I am expecting us to go down - we have been awful all season and it will be absolutely embarrassing on Newcastle & Norwich if they were to go down with us staying up. It's only due to Cameron's brain fart at the end of the game has kept some (admittedly, only a little) hope alive. Fact of the matter is we will draw at Watford so I think we need 4 points minimum from Chelsea & Everton at home, not going to happen and we are likely doomed. This was a great chance to pick up 3 points but we couldn't even perform decent up until the 75 minute mark where your lot became very lacklustre - quite clearly on the beach bar those who had a point to prove (Bardo, Adam, Crouch). Like I said though, 1-1 was a fair result and the stats do back that up. It was not a fair result, we were much better, and Im a very harsh critic of SCFC performances. Bollocks to stats. What did you actually create during the game bar the goal and the one on one? They were the only two moments where you'd have worried us - similarly to us only worrying you with Defoe's shot over the bar and the penalty. |
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Post by mrcoke on May 1, 2016 17:16:54 GMT
It was not a fair result, we were much better, and Im a very harsh critic of SCFC performances. Bollocks to stats. What did you actually create during the game bar the goal and the one on one? They were the only two moments where you'd have worried us - similarly to us only worrying you with Defoe's shot over the bar and the penalty. Living in the NE myself and Sunderland being my nearest Prem side (today that is) I normally read and like your posts haway. That last one though was a long way wide of the mark. Don't remember Arni shot that went just over the bar into your crowd? Crouch had 2 headers that he would have put away in his younger days. Arni made cross that Shaqiri should have anticipated and got close to tapping in, and those chances were just in the first half under your nose (if you were at the match?). |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 17:20:44 GMT
Was that 4mins extra time a the end?
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Post by haway on May 1, 2016 18:27:45 GMT
What did you actually create during the game bar the goal and the one on one? They were the only two moments where you'd have worried us - similarly to us only worrying you with Defoe's shot over the bar and the penalty. Living in the NE myself and Sunderland being my nearest Prem side (today that is) I normally read and like your posts haway. That last one though was a long way wide of the mark. Don't remember Arni shot that went just over the bar into your crowd? Crouch had 2 headers that he would have put away in his younger days. Arni made cross that Shaqiri should have anticipated and got close to tapping in, and those chances were just in the first half under your nose (if you were at the match?). I'll give you the Arnie one, but the Crouch headers didn't have enough pace on them to seriously trouble Vito & I was counting efforts on goal - not crosses failing to meet their man. I stand by that Stoke did not create enough chances that had me shitting myself and was always confident of getting back into it. You may argue but the stats do show an even number of shots both on and off target - so we both had the same problem looking at that; not clinical enough and neither side can come out and say they definitely deserved the win. |
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Post by lordb on May 1, 2016 22:26:50 GMT
Living in the NE myself and Sunderland being my nearest Prem side (today that is) I normally read and like your posts haway. That last one though was a long way wide of the mark. Don't remember Arni shot that went just over the bar into your crowd? Crouch had 2 headers that he would have put away in his younger days. Arni made cross that Shaqiri should have anticipated and got close to tapping in, and those chances were just in the first half under your nose (if you were at the match?). I'll give you the Arnie one, but the Crouch headers didn't have enough pace on them to seriously trouble Vito & I was counting efforts on goal - not crosses failing to meet their man. I stand by that Stoke did not create enough chances that had me shitting myself and was always confident of getting back into it. You may argue but the stats do show an even number of shots both on and off target - so we both had the same problem looking at that; not clinical enough and neither side can come out and say they definitely deserved the win. Sunderland had zero chances of note. Stoke had three glorious chances,and only took one. Not a great game sure but Sunderland would have lost that game normally. Still they kept going,fair play. |
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