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Post by silverdollar on Apr 20, 2016 9:54:53 GMT
With the wealth of young talent we have available what has Rooney done to warrant selection in the best team. For at least three years Rooney has been living on his reputation. His performances for his club since his return from injury have shown no positives. If Hodgson picks Rooney it will be a massive, massive mistake! Kane and Vardy should be on the pitch. Alli and Dier are outstanding! Welbeck certainly should be in the squad ahead of Rooney! Barkley is a must ahead of Rooney. There is no way a wide position should be given to Rooney because we have Stirling, Walcott, Lalanna with far more pace. I haven't even mentioned Sturridge and Rashford yet. Why on earth would anyone select Rooney?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 20, 2016 9:56:25 GMT
I think he'll definitely start Kane and Alli. Think Barkley will be an impact sub. I always have difficulty understanding the formation England play. Is it 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 in some diamond formation? Does Woy really know? Perhaps he'll revert back to the 4-2-4 that saw us excel in Brazil? I think it'll be 433, unless he bottles it. Which he might.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 9:56:38 GMT
Hart Clyne Smalling Cahill Rose Dier Wilshere (if fit) Alli Sterling Kane Welbeck Goal Goblin as hopeful supersub for Welbeck/Sterling?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 20, 2016 9:58:24 GMT
Hart Clyne Smalling Cahill Rose Dier Wilshere (if fit) Alli Sterling Kane Welbeck Goal Goblin as hopeful supersub for Welbeck/Sterling? Yeah definitely. Best use of him I reckon.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Apr 20, 2016 11:04:39 GMT
Hart Clyne Smalling Cahill Rose Dier Wellbeck Alli Albrighton Vardy Kane Albrighton just for that better defensive cover with only having 1 DM If only 1 forward then take off Vardy and put in Drinkwater, and put on Sterlingfor Albrighton. Plenty of forward options on the bench these days, rooney, sturridge, rashford, Albrighton starting for England? In what parallel universe is this ever going to happen? I'd be staggered if Ronney wasn't starting. He's Woy's Captain and, to be fair, played well in the qualifiers. Kane's a dead cert and we have Sturridge and Vardy to bring on in the striker department. I think Sellback may well start too...he's always played well for England, but I'm really not sure what formation we'll play. Sterling should be fit and will obviously provide another threat (I realise he's not everyone's pin-up). In midfield Dier and Alli are shoe-ins and I reckon Wilshere will start too if fit. Berkeley is great back up as is Drinkwater if we want fresh legs.
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Post by redstriper on Apr 20, 2016 11:11:37 GMT
We have good options going forward but we will be found out through the middle of the defence unless dier turns out to be a miracle worker.
At least there should be goals.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 20, 2016 11:49:11 GMT
You've picked Walcott and Sterling for your best England 11? sorry, that's shambolic management my friend. you've slagged him off but not offered up an 11, even worse man management Couldn't be arsed, easier to just say Walcott and Sterling are shit isn't it? Was for me anyway.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 20, 2016 13:54:20 GMT
It's so tempting to try and get both Kane and Vardy into the same team but the only way I can see of doing it, is to sacrifice width and go with a very narrow 4-4-2 diamond, with the width coming from the fullbacks.
---------------Hart--------------
Clyne--Smalling--Cahill--Rose
---------------Dier--------------
-----Wilshere----Drinkwater---
---------------Alli----------------
--------Vardy-----Kane----------
I really like how strong we would be in midfield with this formation and it would scare the shit out of most defenders knowing that they were going to have to deal with both Vardy and Kane, however (as I said) the lack of width is a bit of a concern.
To get more width into the side, I'd sacrifice Vardy and got with a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3.
---------------Hart--------------
Clyne--Smalling--Cahill--Rose
---------Dier----Drinkwater----
Sterling-------Alli------Welbeck
---------------Kane--------------
Sadly I think there's a real chance that Alli is going to miss out and Roy will (wrongly) go with Rooney behind Kane.
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Post by jezzascfc on Apr 20, 2016 14:07:48 GMT
It's so tempting to try and get both Kane and Vardy into the same team but the only way I can see of doing it, is to sacrifice width and go with a very narrow 4-4-2 diamond, with the width coming from the fullbacks.
---------------Hart--------------
Clyne--Smalling--Cahill--Rose
---------------Dier--------------
-----Wilshere----Drinkwater---
---------------Alli----------------
--------Vardy-----Kane----------
I really like how strong we would be in midfield with this formation and it would scare the shit out of most defenders knowing that they were going to have to deal with both Vardy and Kane, however (as I said) the lack of width is a bit of a concern.
To get more width into the side, I'd sacrifice Vardy and got with a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3.
---------------Hart--------------
Clyne--Smalling--Cahill--Rose
---------Dier----Drinkwater----
Sterling-------Alli------Welbeck
---------------Kane--------------
Sadly I think there's a real chance that Alli is going to miss out and Roy will (wrongly) go with Rooney behind Kane.
I loved your second team until I got to Sterling, Paul! He has flattered to deceive this season and I'd be tempted to stick a square peg in a round hole and put one of Barkley, Sturridge, Vardy or Rooney into the attacking three ahead of him. The first selection is too narrow, as you say, and relies on Spurs style flying full backs too much.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 20, 2016 14:19:46 GMT
It's so tempting to try and get both Kane and Vardy into the same team but the only way I can see of doing it, is to sacrifice width and go with a very narrow 4-4-2 diamond, with the width coming from the fullbacks.
---------------Hart--------------
Clyne--Smalling--Cahill--Rose
---------------Dier--------------
-----Wilshere----Drinkwater---
---------------Alli----------------
--------Vardy-----Kane----------
I really like how strong we would be in midfield with this formation and it would scare the shit out of most defenders knowing that they were going to have to deal with both Vardy and Kane, however (as I said) the lack of width is a bit of a concern.
To get more width into the side, I'd sacrifice Vardy and got with a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3.
---------------Hart--------------
Clyne--Smalling--Cahill--Rose
---------Dier----Drinkwater----
Sterling-------Alli------Welbeck
---------------Kane--------------
Sadly I think there's a real chance that Alli is going to miss out and Roy will (wrongly) go with Rooney behind Kane.
I loved your second team until I got to Sterling, Paul! He has flattered to deceive this season and I'd be tempted to stick a square peg in a round hole and put one of Barkley, Sturridge, Vardy or Rooney into the attacking three ahead of him. The first selection is too narrow, as you say, and relies on Spurs style flying full backs too much.
Yeah I know what you mean Jezza, there's certainly a lack of players out there who can play that position, which is incredible really. Sterling kind of makes it due to a simple lack of competition which is pretty worrying actually.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 20, 2016 14:24:25 GMT
Does everyone think that Drinkwater is International class? Not sure me'sen.
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 20, 2016 14:28:12 GMT
Does everyone think that Drinkwater is International class? Not sure me'sen. He's been top class this season. Would fly into my England team easily. There's no others apart from noble who have been as good this season, and IMO it seems its noble or drinky with woy. Even though both would go ahead of the likes of milner and Henderson if I was manager..
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 20, 2016 14:31:09 GMT
Does everyone think that Drinkwater is International class? Not sure me'sen. He's worth a place in the squad based on form you'd think Pugs. What are the alternatives for that deeper position? Wilshere if he's fit is probably the best option. Barkley you'd have to play further forward. Henderson's crocked (and a nothing player even when he isn't). Difficult to think who else is an option. The fact that my predictive text keeps trying to change 'Carrick' to 'Carsick' tells its own story.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 20, 2016 14:38:19 GMT
Does everyone think that Drinkwater is International class? Not sure me'sen. He's worth a place in the squad based on form you'd think Pugs. What are the alternatives for that deeper position? Wilshere if he's fit is probably the best option. Barkley you'd have to play further forward. Henderson's crocked (and a nothing player even when he isn't). Difficult to think who else is an option. The fact that my predictive text keeps trying to change 'Carrick' to 'Carsick' tells its own story. Maybe, just got a nagging feeling he'll be out of his depth on the biggest stage. Same could be said for most of 'em to be fair. Hart Clyne Cahill Smalling Rose Dier Wilshere Wellbeck Ali Barkley Kane With Vardy to come on with plenty of pace late on.
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Post by jezzascfc on Apr 20, 2016 14:55:55 GMT
Despite him being a nasty little runt (with a silent c!), if Wilshere can get a few games under his belt, after his last few impressive showings for England in a deeper role and the paucity of competition in midfield, you would have to take him to the Euros and maybe consider him ahead of Drinkwater in most of those teams named.
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 20, 2016 14:58:45 GMT
Despite him being a nasty little runt (with a silent c!), if Wilshere can get a few games under his belt, after his last few impressive showings for England in a deeper role and the paucity of competition in midfield, you would have to take him to the Euros and maybe consider him ahead of Drinkwater in most of those teams named. The game Drinkwater played in the friendlies (can't remember if it was the first or second) he was my motm. Deserves to start but everyone knows woy gets a hard on with wilshite. I'd take delph before him personally
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Post by WhyDelilah on Apr 20, 2016 15:33:35 GMT
Hart Clyne Smalling Cahill Rose Dier Wilshere (if fit) Alli Sterling Kane Welbeck Welbeck over Vardy? Suppose it's a slight improvement on Lallana.
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Post by frodekippe on Apr 20, 2016 15:47:14 GMT
--------------- Hart ------------ Walker - Smalling - Cahill - Rose --------------- Dier ------------ ----------Alli --- Drinkwater --- Vardy ------------------- Welbeck -------------- Kane--------------
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 20, 2016 15:47:36 GMT
Hart Clyne Smalling Cahill Rose Dier Wilshere (if fit) Alli Sterling Kane Welbeck Welbeck over Vardy? Suppose it's a slight improvement on Lallana. Welbeck is better in a wide role than Vardy IMO. Vardy best as an impact sub.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Apr 20, 2016 15:50:48 GMT
Welbeck over Vardy? Suppose it's a slight improvement on Lallana. Welbeck is better in a wide role than Vardy IMO. Vardy best as an impact sub. I can just about live with Welbeck, although Vardy would be my personal choice. I'm just glad your boner for Lallana has gone. Townsend is looking decent mind.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 20, 2016 15:52:53 GMT
Welbeck is better in a wide role than Vardy IMO. Vardy best as an impact sub. I can just about live with Welbeck, although Vardy would be my personal choice. I'm just glad your boner for Lallana has gone. Townsend is looking decent mind. I'd play Lallana wide before I played Vardy wide. Striker on the wing because he's dead fast, Triffic Nige. Townsend has done well at Castle so far. He'll be the best winger in the Championship.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Apr 20, 2016 16:59:49 GMT
--------------- Hart ------------ Walker - Smalling - Cahill - Rose --------------- Dier ------------ ----------Alli --- Drinkwater --- Vardy ------------------- Welbeck -------------- Kane-------------- This for me too. Plenty of goals in the team but shows that the back 4 will be our problem. Only really happy with smalling (and never thought i'd say that 2 years ago!!!), the other 3 are bang average imho.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Apr 20, 2016 17:01:15 GMT
--------------- Hart ------------ Walker - Smalling - Cahill - Rose --------------- Dier ------------ ----------Alli --- Drinkwater --- Vardy ------------------- Welbeck -------------- Kane-------------- This for me too. Plenty of goals in the team but shows that the back 4 will be our problem. Only really happy with smalling (and never thought i'd say that 2 years ago!!!), the other 3 are bang average imho. But pretty sure wilshite & lalaland will be in the startin XI come the first game. :-(
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Post by WhyDelilah on Apr 21, 2016 8:33:28 GMT
I can just about live with Welbeck, although Vardy would be my personal choice. I'm just glad your boner for Lallana has gone. Townsend is looking decent mind. I'd play Lallana wide before I played Vardy wide. Striker on the wing because he's dead fast, Triffic Nige. Townsend has done well at Castle so far. He'll be the best winger in the Championship. Did you see Lallana's air shot the other day when he had the goal at his mercy? Hilarious stuff. If we're being honest, Milner is a better shout. 5 goals and 11 assists this season. Significantly more productive than his media darling counterpart (3 goals, 6 assists).
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 21, 2016 9:23:16 GMT
I'd play Lallana wide before I played Vardy wide. Striker on the wing because he's dead fast, Triffic Nige. Townsend has done well at Castle so far. He'll be the best winger in the Championship. Did you see Lallana's air shot the other day when he had the goal at his mercy? Hilarious stuff. If we're being honest, Milner is a better shout. 5 goals and 11 assists this season. Significantly more productive than his media darling counterpart (3 goals, 6 assists). He's another player (like Lallana and Vardy and Rooney and others) who is better infield than out wide. I wouldn't start any of them there, though I think he'll take them all.
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Post by overthehills on Apr 21, 2016 10:20:08 GMT
Can see Roy picking: Hart Clyne, Smalling, Cahill, Rose Milner, Wilshire Lallana, Rooney, Sterling Kane.
I would like to see Alli, Dier and Vardy given the nod. would love us go attacking with attacking full backs, creativity in advance midfield from alli and barkley with 2 inform strikers up top. 4-1-3-2 formation becoming a 3-5-2 attacking and a 4-4-2 defending.
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Post by PotterEd on Apr 21, 2016 10:55:20 GMT
What I would pick...
Hart Clyne Smalling Cahill Cresswell Dier Milner Vardy Alli Sterling Kane
What Woy will pick....
Hart Walker Smalling Cahill Rose Wilshere Milner Delph Rooney Kane Welbeck
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 21, 2016 11:04:25 GMT
He's almost in a position where he can't not pick Alli now.
If he's fit, he starts.
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Post by djralphy2k9 on Apr 21, 2016 12:21:32 GMT
Hart
Clyne Cahill Smalling Rose
Dier Alli Barkley
Vardy Kane Welbeck
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Post by jezzascfc on Apr 21, 2016 13:18:01 GMT
He's almost in a position where he can't not pick Alli now. If he's fit, he starts. Agreed, especially with Barkley suffering in the Martinez malaise at Everton. Kane and Alli have to start.
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