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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 19, 2016 15:47:26 GMT
If he was as out of shape as people suggest, you really should be looking at the manager. What sort of message does it send out to Shenton and the other young players?
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Post by stokiefromhaslo on Apr 19, 2016 15:51:27 GMT
If he was as out of shape as people suggest, you really should be looking at the manager. What sort of message does it send out to Shenton and the other young players? I'm sure Les is there 24/7 to watch what Charlie is eating. But by no means at all should he have been on that pitch yesterday.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 19, 2016 15:55:22 GMT
If he was as out of shape as people suggest, you really should be looking at the manager. What sort of message does it send out to Shenton and the other young players? I'm sure Les is there 24/7 to watch what Charlie is eating. But by no means at all should he have been on that pitch yesterday. I'd imagine 'Les' is at training every day where performance and fitness is measured using Nasa like technology!
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Post by stokiefromhaslo on Apr 19, 2016 15:56:55 GMT
I'm sure Les is there 24/7 to watch what Charlie is eating. But by no means at all should he have been on that pitch yesterday. I'd imagine 'Les' is at training every day where performance and fitness is measured using Nasa like technology! He can do that all he likes - doesn't take tests to see that Adam is out of shape. Charlie probably has 1 meal a day at the training ground, he can't exactly monitor what he does the rest of the time can he?
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 19, 2016 16:00:41 GMT
I'd imagine 'Les' is at training every day where performance and fitness is measured using Nasa like technology! He can do that all he likes - doesn't take tests to see that Adam is out of shape. Charlie probably has 1 meal a day at the training ground, he can't exactly monitor what he does the rest of the time can he? should never be on the pitch in that shape
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 19, 2016 16:01:58 GMT
I'd imagine 'Les' is at training every day where performance and fitness is measured using Nasa like technology! He can do that all he likes - doesn't take tests to see that Adam is out of shape. Charlie probably has 1 meal a day at the training ground, he can't exactly monitor what he does the rest of the time can he? I'm not expecting him to feed him, I'm saying that all week gearing up to a game fitness will be assessed and that is Hughes resposnsibility. There are two explanations, A) he's not the physical wreck people are painting him to be Or B). It was a pretty major fuck up from 'Mark and his team' and a terrible signal to send out to young players, particularly Shenton.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 16:02:49 GMT
Durham slating him and Shawcross and the club at the minute #shocked. #not.
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Post by stokiefromhaslo on Apr 19, 2016 16:07:37 GMT
He can do that all he likes - doesn't take tests to see that Adam is out of shape. Charlie probably has 1 meal a day at the training ground, he can't exactly monitor what he does the rest of the time can he? I'm not expecting him to feed him, I'm saying that all week gearing up to a game fitness will be assessed and that is Hughes resposnsibility. There are two explanations, A) he's not the physical wreck people are painting him to be Or B). It was a pretty major fuck up from 'Mark and his team' and a terrible signal to send out to young players, particularly Shenton. Charlie looked like he was struggling after 5 minutes so i'm going for option B out of them two. Its situations like those where we should be giving the younger players a chance to prove themselves.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 19, 2016 16:11:41 GMT
Just how bad must Ireland be in training to bring Charlie on before him
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 19, 2016 16:11:56 GMT
I'm not expecting him to feed him, I'm saying that all week gearing up to a game fitness will be assessed and that is Hughes resposnsibility. There are two explanations, A) he's not the physical wreck people are painting him to be Or B). It was a pretty major fuck up from 'Mark and his team' and a terrible signal to send out to young players, particularly Shenton. Charlie looked like he was struggling after 5 minutes so i'm going for option B out of them two. Its situations like those where we should be giving the younger players a chance to prove themselves. Agree entirely with that last point, particularly with the twitching corpse our season's been for a while now. I juts cannot fathom in age where players are fine tuned and analysed to the nth degree that you would end up with someone who people say is completely unfit. Someone isn't doing their job properly.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 19, 2016 17:26:06 GMT
He can do that all he likes - doesn't take tests to see that Adam is out of shape. Charlie probably has 1 meal a day at the training ground, he can't exactly monitor what he does the rest of the time can he? I'm not expecting him to feed him, I'm saying that all week gearing up to a game fitness will be assessed and that is Hughes resposnsibility. There are two explanations, A) he's not the physical wreck people are painting him to be Or B). It was a pretty major fuck up from 'Mark and his team' and a terrible signal to send out to young players, particularly Shenton. Shenton looks like he carries puppy fat but you're right about Adam. He's always been a fat fucker.
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Post by milky on Apr 19, 2016 18:05:32 GMT
Adam has always been a conundrum.
This time last year he was on fire.To get anything decent from him he has to be playing regularly.
As last night proved he is no use making the odd 20min appearance here and there.
Clearly he no longer has a future here.
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Post by hanibal7 on Apr 20, 2016 9:04:35 GMT
Looks like he's been stuffing himself with pies and a couple of pints One of the deadwood that needs dropping Along with at least 6-8 other players who clearly don't make the grade Ryan looks to have a bit of extra timber too Has Ryan got some sort of body support on, for his back, he looks so stiff and cant seem to turn within 5 seconds ????. if so it could be more serious than what we think.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 20, 2016 9:13:52 GMT
Charlie looked like he was struggling after 5 minutes so i'm going for option B out of them two. Its situations like those where we should be giving the younger players a chance to prove themselves. Agree entirely with that last point, particularly with the twitching corpse our season's been for a while now. I juts cannot fathom in age where players are fine tuned and analysed to the nth degree that you would end up with someone who people say is completely unfit. Someone isn't doing their job properly. Perhaps Adam is just "stout". A modern day Puskas?
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Post by kurt on Apr 20, 2016 9:16:31 GMT
Is he on the same training routine as Agbonlahor? Each Premier League Team gets his own Weight-Watchers-advisor next season
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Post by richardparker on Apr 20, 2016 9:32:44 GMT
I'm quicker than him and I'm 55 I'd pay to see that. I'm 55 too. Can I join the race? 100m or 200m ... you choose!
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Post by metalhead on Apr 20, 2016 9:34:51 GMT
Are there any photos of Charlie from the other night? I haven't quite grasped just how overweight he supposedly is. Agbonlahor is fucking massive though. Seems to have a thoroughly unpleasant attitude.
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Post by Northy on Apr 20, 2016 9:38:56 GMT
He can do that all he likes - doesn't take tests to see that Adam is out of shape. Charlie probably has 1 meal a day at the training ground, he can't exactly monitor what he does the rest of the time can he? I'm not expecting him to feed him, I'm saying that all week gearing up to a game fitness will be assessed and that is Hughes resposnsibility. There are two explanations, A) he's not the physical wreck people are painting him to be Or B). It was a pretty major fuck up from 'Mark and his team' and a terrible signal to send out to young players, particularly Shenton. He probably knew he could only last 15 minutes in that condition that's why he was put on then
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Post by ryan4england on Apr 20, 2016 9:57:40 GMT
Should be playing imo as part of a midfield 3 with Whelan & imbula in a 4-5-1 he's one of our best players. Adam plays best in a cm 3 and imbula could get away with more as well.
or do we continue to flog a dead horse when we are getting pummeled what are we learning by seeing the season out with a flawed set up
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 20, 2016 11:03:17 GMT
I'm not expecting him to feed him, I'm saying that all week gearing up to a game fitness will be assessed and that is Hughes resposnsibility. There are two explanations, A) he's not the physical wreck people are painting him to be Or B). It was a pretty major fuck up from 'Mark and his team' and a terrible signal to send out to young players, particularly Shenton. Shenton looks like he carries puppy fat but you're right about Adam. He's always been a fat fucker. You say that but the Blackpool play off final game was repeated on SKY yesterday and Charlie Adam was half the size then than he is now. My lad got his shirt after the Aston Villa game earlier in the season. Suffice to say, it fits me nicely and I can assure that I haven't been an athlete for many years.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Apr 20, 2016 12:00:37 GMT
Should be playing imo as part of a midfield 3 with Whelan & imbula in a 4-5-1 he's one of our best players. Adam plays best in a cm 3 and imbula could get away with more as well. or do we continue to flog a dead horse when we are getting pummeled what are we learning by seeing the season out with a flawed set up So, he should be playing in three ahead of Afellay or Bojan? You're having a laugh...........
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Post by jezzascfc on Apr 20, 2016 12:53:07 GMT
Should be playing imo as part of a midfield 3 with Whelan & imbula in a 4-5-1 he's one of our best players. Adam plays best in a cm 3 and imbula could get away with more as well. or do we continue to flog a dead horse when we are getting pummeled what are we learning by seeing the season out with a flawed set up So, he should be playing in three ahead of Afellay or Bojan? You're having a laugh........... There are some serious plums on here at the moment with some frankly laughable views. Adam ahead of Bojan and Afellay would be like choosing Tex ahead of Shawcross!
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Post by northantsash on Apr 20, 2016 13:49:14 GMT
its probably unfair to judge him based on the one game, but he has always been huge imo and it does take the piss that he is picked over the likes of shenton. may as well give the young lad some game time whilst we have nothing to play for, assuming he has a future at the club...
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Post by jimmygscfc on Apr 20, 2016 14:58:58 GMT
its probably unfair to judge him based on the one game, but he has always been huge imo and it does take the piss that he is picked over the likes of shenton. may as well give the young lad some game time whilst we have nothing to play for, assuming he has a future at the club... A team should never have 'nothing' to play for as long as the season lasts. As for Shenton, even Bayern (I think) has admitted he hasn't made as much progress as was hoped, but he's still very young.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Apr 20, 2016 15:34:19 GMT
So, he should be playing in three ahead of Afellay or Bojan? You're having a laugh........... There are some serious plums on here at the moment with some frankly laughable views. Adam ahead of Bojan and Afellay would be like choosing Tex ahead of Shawcross! There's been more than one game this season where I've been sat wishing we could* bring Adam on as a sub when we're in need of being more direct. No use if he's in such poor condition though. *he was out injured at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 16:01:42 GMT
I totally get supporters slating a team performance At times, I understand supporters slating a managers tactics etc after such a loss but, I don't quite understand supporter fettish to pick out individual players to insult their weight etc
At least his head didn't drop and walk around like a mardarse.
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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 20, 2016 16:26:09 GMT
So Hughes's is now force feeding Adam?
It's literally silly season on this place.
Grow the fuck up.
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Post by ryan4england on Apr 20, 2016 17:07:18 GMT
Should be playing imo as part of a midfield 3 with Whelan & imbula in a 4-5-1 he's one of our best players. Adam plays best in a cm 3 and imbula could get away with more as well. or do we continue to flog a dead horse when we are getting pummeled what are we learning by seeing the season out with a flawed set up So, he should be playing in three ahead of Afellay or Bojan? You're having a laugh........... don't give 2 ducks who they are, if it isn't working it isn't working. All season the phrase "attacking potential" has been used at what point do people realise it's not working. No doubt we'll do the same again next game after being tonked in the last 2 games. If that's good management anyone can do it. Affelay & bojan played last game we lost 0-4 so what's your point?
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Post by thestokielad on Apr 20, 2016 20:44:35 GMT
I fucking love charlie it would be sad to see him go but we have better players in his position so if hughes isn't going to play him we may as well sell him. Hes the type of player that plays at his best when hes had a good run in the team but he hasn't been able to get that recently thats why his form is so poor.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 20, 2016 20:47:14 GMT
So Hughes's is now force feeding Adam? It's literally silly season on this place. Grow the fuck up. You'd think they'd have scales at Clayton Wood though wouldn't you and other apparatus to measure players fitness.
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