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Post by gonk on Apr 11, 2016 16:23:56 GMT
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 11, 2016 16:30:16 GMT
Its going leave a lot of people with egg on thee face. Que the "west ham were keeping it for athletics use" excuses
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 17:25:10 GMT
I've seen pictures with water near it, so obviously it's going to be used for a rowing club and off shore investments =)
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Post by Northy on Apr 11, 2016 17:33:56 GMT
Just watching it on London news, it was football fans who have fought for this on the freedom of information rule. LLDC are appealing and Boris Johnson is supporting their appeal
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 11, 2016 17:38:58 GMT
They've nothing to worry about if everything was fair and above board surely?
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Post by gonk on Apr 11, 2016 19:00:34 GMT
Just watching it on London news, it was football fans who have fought for this on the freedom of information rule. LLDC are appealing and Boris Johnson is supporting their appeal Says in the link 20 odd different clubs. |
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Post by waffles on Apr 11, 2016 19:06:39 GMT
Why would they appeal? Piss myself if Cameron's involved in a dodgy deal!
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Post by gonk on Apr 11, 2016 19:15:06 GMT
Why would they appeal? Piss myself if Cameron's involved in a dodgy deal! Wonder what brandy did for Boris to get this deal over the line.  |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 11, 2016 19:37:52 GMT
I'm sure that there's been plenty of brown envelopes involved. If they're trying to block it it suggests something dodgys gone on.
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Post by march4 on Apr 11, 2016 19:41:19 GMT
Why would they appeal? Piss myself if Cameron's involved in a dodgy deal! That is unparliamentary language.  |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 11, 2016 19:46:54 GMT
Why would they appeal? Piss myself if Cameron's involved in a dodgy deal! A Prime Minister involved in dodgy dealing.... It'll never happen a tell thee!!! |
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Post by sportsman on Apr 11, 2016 20:31:45 GMT
They'll just cover up the cover up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 11:12:22 GMT
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Post by thebet365 on Apr 14, 2016 11:18:36 GMT
1 of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 14, 2016 12:52:54 GMT
2.5 million a year is a absolute insult. Specially with how much they will be making from the TV deals.
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Post by gonk on Apr 14, 2016 13:43:24 GMT
Just said on the radio the price is all in e.g. policing ,staff and even goal posts.No wonder they did not want this out in the open.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 13:49:10 GMT
I can see it now,
West Ham.....the peoples club. Funded by the people, for the people.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 14, 2016 17:15:51 GMT
1 of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. Does that mean they get rid of anything claret and blue for the other 340 days? Surely if they're saying that there should be no branding or colours or that's free advertising. If they have a club shop can it only open 30 days a year? |
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Post by retired1 on Apr 14, 2016 17:32:07 GMT
1 of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. Does that mean they get rid of anything claret and blue for the other 340 days? Surely if they're saying that there should be no branding or colours or that's free advertising. If they have a club shop can it only open 30 days a year? They already have a club shop in the nearby Westfield shopping centre, only a couple of mins walk from the stadium. |
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Post by Squeekster on Apr 14, 2016 17:51:13 GMT
Come on the is the country paying West Ham back for winning the world cup in 66 can't everyone see that? !
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Apr 14, 2016 18:08:14 GMT
2.5 million a year is a absolute insult. Specially with how much they will be making from the TV deals. Don't forget the 50 percent from selling the naming rights to a stadium you don't own! |
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Post by reddipotter on Apr 14, 2016 18:27:02 GMT
But perhaps it's better than an Olympic stadium unused and falling apart like just about every other country's in recent memory?
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 14, 2016 18:34:17 GMT
Currently in a argument on twitter with a friend of Sullivan's son. He recons they haven't had a easy deal because man city only pay 3m (even though its in one of the most roughest areas in the country) absolute unbelievable.
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Post by roostershair on Apr 14, 2016 18:49:15 GMT
The porno owners reckon they are on a winner. 11 knobs and Karen Brady, the makings of a blockbuster film
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Apr 14, 2016 18:54:55 GMT
Currently in a argument on twitter with a friend of Sullivan's son. He recons they haven't had a easy deal because man city only pay 3m (even though its in one of the most roughest areas in the country) absolute unbelievable. Remember thinking how magnificent Man City's training complex was as we drove past after the 1-0 away win their last season,they may get a good deal on the stadium but they have spent massively on improving the area,and when you listen to Vincent Kompany talking about the importance of having that facility located in the community that supports the club and the connect it engenders between players/club and fans you're inclined to believe it when their owners say they're in it for the long haul. |
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 14, 2016 19:06:51 GMT
Currently in a argument on twitter with a friend of Sullivan's son. He recons they haven't had a easy deal because man city only pay 3m (even though its in one of the most roughest areas in the country) absolute unbelievable. Remember thinking how magnificent Man City's training complex was as we drove past after the 1-0 away win their last season,they may get a good deal on the stadium but they have spent massively on improving the area,and when you listen to Vincent Kompany talking about the importance of having that facility located in the community that supports the club and the connect it engenders between players/club and fans you're inclined to believe it when their owners say they're in it for the long haul. Exactly mate. Its in the one of worst areas of the country whereas os is one of the most expensive cities in the world. |
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Post by hammered on Apr 14, 2016 19:24:00 GMT
A fictional farce: Don't blame the Hammers
LLDC -Hi Karen – well you know WHU won a fair tender process to purchase the Olympic stadium from State ownership and you were going to pay for the conversion costs to make it suitable to play football in take it of our hands completely but allow UK athletics to use it when needed – well Levy and Hearn have thrown their toys out the pram, someone in Europe's cried state aid and we can’t do this anymore.
WHU – And?
LLDC – So we’ve got to repeat the process and offer it to everyone again on a lease basis.
WHU – OK?
LLDC – Hi Karen, well alongside Athletics which will meet once or twice every five years, we’ve interesting offers from Essex County Cricket Club, Rugby people and someone who wants to stage driving stuff but we can’t see how this will commercially support the stadium for 365 days a year and we’ll be losing lots of money which won’t make people happy. In fact it will get used so little the whole area would probably fall into decline and we wouldn’t be meeting our covenant to deliver the Olympic legacy.
WHU – So – what about Levy and Hearn?
LLDC – Well Levy wanted to knock it down and it was going to cause some issues anyway if Spurs moved across two boroughs to Newham. And now he’s got Boris to fund a lot of the surrounding area around WHL we’re wondering how serious he was about it anyway and Hearn hasn’t got enough fans to hold hands round the stadium or money to finance it.
WHU – Well why don’t you stick with the original plan to reduce to a 25,000 athletics stadium?
LLDC – Well our money people ran the exercise and as it turns out that won’t work either so you’re the only realistic anchor tenant that could make it viable, maintain the legacy Lord Coe promised and save us from a lot of egg on face etc…
WHU – Oh well seeing as you’ve f—ked us around for six years when we’ve always been the only realistic occupier of the stadium built on our patch, ignored advise to liaise with the potential future occupier of the stadium since 2006 (when the games were announced) and against the advice of many experts built a stadium without a sustainable use after and we've won a transparent and open tender process previously - f—k you!!
LLDC – Pretty please!!
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Post by basingstokie on Apr 14, 2016 19:37:54 GMT
They are paying 2.5M pa for 100 years. No mention of inflation, but I assume it is factored in. So they are paying £250M in current values for which they get use of the stadium and lots of stuff (policing primarily) thrown in.
The stadium cost £272M to make it suitable for football, so straight away we made a loss on this.
I'm no fan of Olympic stadiums going to rack and ruin, but there needs to be some consideration upfront of what happens to the facilities and any losses factored into the decision making process over whether to bid.
Incidentally, the swimming pool is now used as a public pool and is rather nice too.
Velodrome is used for public cycling and other events
So basically both are open to the public.
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Post by roylandstoke on Apr 14, 2016 22:38:16 GMT
As we have paid through the nose for WHUs new ground do we all get in for free?
The deal is an absolute fucking disgrace. WHU almost certainly got more for the sale of The Boleyn than they paid to improve the Olympic stadium.
They will make more at their new much bigger ground on match days than they made at the old ground.
This deal will probably lead to the end of Orient as a professional football club.
Seb Coe, Boris Johnson etc have shown incompetency beyond belief.
Blatter/FIFA style corruption would be the obvious explanation if the total buffoonery of Coe and Boris and their cretinous tory chums wasn't so clear to entire population.
Well done WHU; you have shafted the entire tax paying population, and elevated yourself to the elite level of European football in one fell swoop.
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Post by hammered on Apr 14, 2016 23:40:38 GMT
As we have paid through the nose for WHUs new ground do we all get in for free? No, you'll have to pay just like me. You haven't paid for WHU's ground you and me have paid for successive Government f--k ups, poor planning, commercial ignorance and ego. The deal is an absolute fucking disgrace. WHU almost certainly got more for the sale of The Boleyn than they paid to improve the Olympic stadium. They will make more at their new much bigger ground on match days than they made at the old ground. Correct in every sense and Coates for Stoke given the same opportunity would do the same. This deal will probably lead to the end of Orient as a professional football club. Absolute f--king shite. Orient will stand or fall on their own merit. They're already surrounded by Hammers, Spurs and Arsenal - all less than a three mile radius with much of their support made up of fans from these clubs anyway. Hearne (the chancer) raped the place before he left selling off lots of real estate they owned and banked it if you want to get your facts correct. Seb Coe, Boris Johnson etc have shown incompetency beyond belief. Correct - but don't forget the Labour Government that approved the original planning and legacy.Blatter/FIFA style corruption would be the obvious explanation if the total buffoonery of Coe and Boris and their cretinous tory chums wasn't so clear to entire population. Corruption no chance. This process has been vetted at every legal level including the mugs in Westminster, Brussels and Strasbourg. Coe, LLDC and Labour Government correct and to a lesser extent Boris having to dispose of a white elephant not of his making. The major concept decisions on this were made long before. Well done WHU; you have shafted the entire tax paying population, and elevated yourself to the elite level of European football in one fell swoop. You're also failing to note WE WON A TENDER TO BUY THE FUCKING THING but got fucked over by others who had other agendas. As David Dein ex Arsenal said in 2006, West Ham in the Olympic stadium frightens him to death. www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/west-ham-want-olympic-stadium-425709.html" |
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