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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 23, 2016 15:51:44 GMT
His behaviour in the binary season was snide, his behaviour away at Valencia was a blatant piss take out of the travelling fans. They're equally but differently bad. What I suspect is that many fans had got over what he was up to during the binary season or were unaware of it. But a lot of people have never forgiven him for Valencia and it opened up a lot of wounds, both old and new. But you've forgiven Peter Coates for that whole period around binary?
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Post by greyman on Mar 23, 2016 15:59:41 GMT
What I suspect is that many fans had got over what he was up to during the binary season or were unaware of it. But a lot of people have never forgiven him for Valencia and it opened up a lot of wounds, both old and new. But you've forgiven Peter Coates for that whole period around binary? Yes, like I forgave Pulis and didn't even call for his head when I knew what he was up to. Keep up. Like I've just said, it's possible to hold more than one opinion on somebody. If Peter Coates kept digging holes for himself, like Pulis does, then I'd have a problem with that. The fact is that everywhere Pulis goes, he creates problems and the fans turn on him. I'm still waiting for you to explain this massive coincidence.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 23, 2016 16:05:49 GMT
But you've forgiven Peter Coates for that whole period around binary? Yes, like I forgave Pulis and didn't even call for his head when I knew what he was up to. Keep up. Like I've just said, it's possible to hold more than one opinion on somebody. If Peter Coates kept digging holes for himself, like Pulis does, then I'd have a problem with that. The fact is that everywhere Pulis goes, he creates problems and the fans turn on him. I'm still waiting for you to explain this massive coincidence. I told you yesterday, supporters wise I can only think of Bristol City and Portsmouth fans who outright hate him and that’s based on their feeling he was simply a wank manager more than anything else. The two clubs where he has ‘done something’ the fans still by and large hold him in good esteem. Yet here where he committed the crime of finishing 12th in the Championship on a relative minute budget for absentee owners he is subjected to continual vile abuse. Compared to the other fans and bearing in mind the undeniable upsides of his tenure here I think we take the spitting venom to a whole new level.
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Post by greyman on Mar 23, 2016 16:13:28 GMT
Yes, like I forgave Pulis and didn't even call for his head when I knew what he was up to. Keep up. Like I've just said, it's possible to hold more than one opinion on somebody. If Peter Coates kept digging holes for himself, like Pulis does, then I'd have a problem with that. The fact is that everywhere Pulis goes, he creates problems and the fans turn on him. I'm still waiting for you to explain this massive coincidence. I told you yesterday, supporters wise I can only think of Bristol City and Portsmouth fans who outright hate him and that’s based on their feeling he was simply a wank manager more than anything else. The two clubs where he has ‘done something’ the fans still by and large hold him in good esteem. Yet here where he committed the crime of finishing 12th in the Championship on a relative minute budget for absentee owners he is subjected to continual vile abuse. Compared to the other fans and bearing in mind the undeniable upsides of his tenure here I think we take the spitting venom to a whole new level. I think you need to read a West Brom or Palace message board. We're back where we were though aren't we? You still think people aren't allowed to think he's a cunt who did a good job for us, which is what I believe along with lots of other people here, in Smethwick, Gillingham and London. Well get used to it because we have the facts on our side.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 23, 2016 16:22:46 GMT
I told you yesterday, supporters wise I can only think of Bristol City and Portsmouth fans who outright hate him and that’s based on their feeling he was simply a wank manager more than anything else. The two clubs where he has ‘done something’ the fans still by and large hold him in good esteem. Yet here where he committed the crime of finishing 12th in the Championship on a relative minute budget for absentee owners he is subjected to continual vile abuse. Compared to the other fans and bearing in mind the undeniable upsides of his tenure here I think we take the spitting venom to a whole new level. I think you need to read a West Brom or Palace message board. We're back where we were though aren't we? You still think people aren't allowed to think he's a cunt who did a good job for us, which is what I believe along with lots of other people here, in Smethwick, Gillingham and London. Well get used to it because we have the facts on our side. Oh come on now. I've seen him get a standing ovation at Preistfield. Palace fans are remarkably sanguine about the fact he apparently tried to cheat them out of 2 million quid, preferring to concentrate on the job he did. I read a West Brom messagebaord the other day and itv was nothing like the vitriol on this mad house. Perhaps we're just a bit wanker fans than most?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 16:24:58 GMT
Palace fans loved Pulis until he walked, they can try to deny it now, but I read the forums during his spell in charge. Reading them now it seems that they'll never forgive the timing of his walk out, and think it was all about brand Pulis and inflicting maximum damage on Parish; but at the same time there seems to be an acceptance that Parish was getting overely involved in transfers - we all know how that goes down with TP, and Parish will have been all too aware of it too. Pulis spent £900k on players that summer, and Palace spent £12m in the two weeks after Pulis left. Even Keith Millen, Mr Palace, was opening saying that there was frustration.
What I don't understand is that Pulis would have inflicted far more damage on Palace if he'd waited 2 weeks until the transfer window had closed, he would have kept his reputation intact (he could have cited lack of funds as a reason for his departure), and, he wouldn't have needed to spin some story about buying a house or risked being taken to court.
Why did he walk out on Palace when he did? I've yet to read a theory that makes sense in that respect. For some it seems more than a frustrated man wanting out, and wanting to claim what was his for his previous seasons work.
If anything, it seems to suit Parish more to get Pulis out when he did, if their relationship was fractured beyond repair, and if it meant avoiding paying the bonus that was due soon.
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Post by greyman on Mar 23, 2016 16:48:20 GMT
I think you need to read a West Brom or Palace message board. We're back where we were though aren't we? You still think people aren't allowed to think he's a cunt who did a good job for us, which is what I believe along with lots of other people here, in Smethwick, Gillingham and London. Well get used to it because we have the facts on our side. Oh come on now. I've seen him get a standing ovation at Preistfield. Palace fans are remarkably sanguine about the fact he apparently tried to cheat them out of 2 million quid, preferring to concentrate on the job he did. I read a West Brom messagebaord the other day and itv was nothing like the vitriol on this mad house. Perhaps we're just a bit wanker fans than most? For that to develop, they'd need a full decade of him like we had.
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Post by Kjones9 on Mar 23, 2016 17:57:51 GMT
It's a shame the supporter of the year doesn't get behind the team post 2013.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 23, 2016 18:04:11 GMT
It's a shame the supporter of the year doesn't get behind the team post 2013. Who? That daft fucker who dyes his beard?
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Post by skip on Mar 23, 2016 18:20:27 GMT
I think you need to read a West Brom or Palace message board. We're back where we were though aren't we? You still think people aren't allowed to think he's a cunt who did a good job for us, which is what I believe along with lots of other people here, in Smethwick, Gillingham and London. Well get used to it because we have the facts on our side. I read a West Brom messagebaord the other day and itv was nothing like the vitriol on this mad house. My epic reply a few posts above went some way to explain the Stoke-Pulis phenomena but do carry on.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 23, 2016 18:50:48 GMT
Yes, like I forgave Pulis and didn't even call for his head when I knew what he was up to. Keep up. Like I've just said, it's possible to hold more than one opinion on somebody. If Peter Coates kept digging holes for himself, like Pulis does, then I'd have a problem with that. The fact is that everywhere Pulis goes, he creates problems and the fans turn on him. I'm still waiting for you to explain this massive coincidence. I told you yesterday, supporters wise I can only think of Bristol City and Portsmouth fans who outright hate him and that’s based on their feeling he was simply a wank manager more than anything else. The two clubs where he has ‘done something’ the fans still by and large hold him in good esteem. Yet here where he committed the crime of finishing 12th in the Championship on a relative minute budget for absentee owners he is subjected to continual vile abuse. Compared to the other fans and bearing in mind the undeniable upsides of his tenure here I think we take the spitting venom to a whole new level. A minute budget that allowed him to sign 36 players in his first stint. He's been backed ALL through his time at Stoke to the full extent of the owner(s).
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 23, 2016 20:37:10 GMT
I read a West Brom messagebaord the other day and itv was nothing like the vitriol on this mad house. My epic reply a few posts above went some way to explain the Stoke-Pulis phenomena but do carry on. It was a very good summary of the position but goes no where near explaining the vicious natsiness that has been hurled his way for over a decade by some.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 23, 2016 20:40:42 GMT
I told you yesterday, supporters wise I can only think of Bristol City and Portsmouth fans who outright hate him and that’s based on their feeling he was simply a wank manager more than anything else. The two clubs where he has ‘done something’ the fans still by and large hold him in good esteem. Yet here where he committed the crime of finishing 12th in the Championship on a relative minute budget for absentee owners he is subjected to continual vile abuse. Compared to the other fans and bearing in mind the undeniable upsides of his tenure here I think we take the spitting venom to a whole new level. A minute budget that allowed him to sign 36 players in his first stint. He's been backed ALL through his time at Stoke to the full extent of the owner(s). Oh come on, the Icelanders had long since stopped trying to win the lottery by then and they didn't have either the means, the will or frankly a clue how to move forward, culminating in that pissed vegas punter chuck of the dice they took on a Dutch clown. Our budget was firmly in the bottom half of that division. I could list some of the clubs who we were losing target to and being blown out of the water by back then but even I'm bored now.
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Post by stokefc on Mar 23, 2016 21:02:25 GMT
ever likely this thread is this long momo has posted nearly 2 pages himself, it wont be long before he has posted the same as my entire posting history
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Post by PolPotter on Mar 23, 2016 21:06:59 GMT
A minute budget that allowed him to sign 36 players in his first stint. He's been backed ALL through his time at Stoke to the full extent of the owner(s). Oh come on, the Icelanders had long since stopped trying to win the lottery by then and they didn't have either the means, the will or frankly a clue how to move forward, culminating in that pissed vegas punter chuck of the dice they took on a Dutch clown. Our budget was firmly in the bottom half of that division. I could list some of the clubs who we were losing target to and being blown out of the water by back then but even I'm bored now. I love how Skip Mouse and his ilk have exploded with so much spunkiness that they have no problem in writing essays detailing their hate for Pulis, on their mobile devices with tiny tiny touch pads, in bed, very very late at night. Give 'em a medal. These 'alfwits are your typical 50 somethings who walk down their street sniggering at their neighbour's freshly cut castle shaped hedge while scratching their neighbour's car. They blab on about this season and that but they have absolutely nothing cast iron that can question TP's integrity and intentions any more than they can question their own fathers. They are blinded by that certain hate we sometimes find in their age bracket. Hopefully, they will soon lose the ability to sound their tripe at games I attend and their ability to write their jibber jabber I read on here. Good luck Tony Pulis.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 23, 2016 21:24:25 GMT
ever likely this thread is this long momo has posted nearly 2 pages himself, it wont be long before he has posted the same as my entire posting history All of it fucking Gold, son. Including this one.
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 23, 2016 21:33:18 GMT
Oh come on, the Icelanders had long since stopped trying to win the lottery by then and they didn't have either the means, the will or frankly a clue how to move forward, culminating in that pissed vegas punter chuck of the dice they took on a Dutch clown. Our budget was firmly in the bottom half of that division. I could list some of the clubs who we were losing target to and being blown out of the water by back then but even I'm bored now. I love how Skip Mouse and his ilk have exploded with so much spunkiness that they have no problem in writing essays detailing their hate for Pulis, on their mobile devices with tiny tiny touch pads, in bed, very very late at night. Give 'em a medal. These 'alfwits are your typical 50 somethings who walk down their street sniggering at their neighbour's freshly cut castle shaped hedge while scratching their neighbour's car. They blab on about this season and that but they have absolutely nothing cast iron that can question TP's integrity and intentions any more than they can question their own fathers. They are blinded by that certain hate we sometimes find in their age bracket. Hopefully, they will soon lose the ability to sound their tripe at games I attend and their ability to write their jibber jabber I read on here. Good luck Tony Pulis. Nothing to question his integrity apart from a high court judge calling him one of the most unimpressive witnesses he's ever heard you mean. That's pretty much code for suggesting the judge believed him to have difficulty differentiating between fact and faction. Personally I always stuff confidential documents down my shorts whilst blackmai sorry I mean negotiating with my employers so like you say nothing cast iron to question his integrity.
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Post by PolPotter on Mar 23, 2016 21:37:55 GMT
I love how Skip Mouse and his ilk have exploded with so much spunkiness that they have no problem in writing essays detailing their hate for Pulis, on their mobile devices with tiny tiny touch pads, in bed, very very late at night. Give 'em a medal. These 'alfwits are your typical 50 somethings who walk down their street sniggering at their neighbour's freshly cut castle shaped hedge while scratching their neighbour's car. They blab on about this season and that but they have absolutely nothing cast iron that can question TP's integrity and intentions any more than they can question their own fathers. They are blinded by that certain hate we sometimes find in their age bracket. Hopefully, they will soon lose the ability to sound their tripe at games I attend and their ability to write their jibber jabber I read on here. Good luck Tony Pulis. Nothing to question his integrity apart from a high court judge calling him one of the most unimpressive witnesses he's ever heard you mean. That's pretty much code for suggesting the judge believed him to have difficulty differentiating between fact and faction. Personally I always stuff confidential documents down my shorts whilst blackmai sorry I mean negotiating with my employers so like you say nothing cast iron to question his integrity. Do you know how weird and odd our judges have behaved over the years? No, you don't.
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Post by bassmaster on Mar 23, 2016 21:44:34 GMT
Nothing to question his integrity apart from a high court judge calling him one of the most unimpressive witnesses he's ever heard you mean. That's pretty much code for suggesting the judge believed him to have difficulty differentiating between fact and faction. Personally I always stuff confidential documents down my shorts whilst blackmai sorry I mean negotiating with my employers so like you say nothing cast iron to question his integrity. Do you know how weird and odd our judges have behaved over the years? No, you don't. Weird calling weird. Weird. Carry on ????
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 23, 2016 21:46:53 GMT
Nothing to question his integrity apart from a high court judge calling him one of the most unimpressive witnesses he's ever heard you mean. That's pretty much code for suggesting the judge believed him to have difficulty differentiating between fact and faction. Personally I always stuff confidential documents down my shorts whilst blackmai sorry I mean negotiating with my employers so like you say nothing cast iron to question his integrity. Do you know how weird and odd our judges have behaved over the years? No, you don't. Whether they put oranges in their mouth or not in a court of law where another witness is Paul Scally for a judge to single you out as being unimpressive is I think pretty unique for a premier league manager certainly more unique than his never been relegated claim.
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Post by PolPotter on Mar 23, 2016 21:48:26 GMT
Do you know how weird and odd our judges have behaved over the years? No, you don't. Weird calling weird. Weird. Carry on ???? ...up the Khyber.
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Post by PolPotter on Mar 23, 2016 21:52:57 GMT
Do you know how weird and odd our judges have behaved over the years? No, you don't. Whether they put oranges in their mouth or not in a court of law where another witness is Paul Scally for a judge to single you out as being unimpressive is I think pretty unique for a premier league manager certainly more unique than his never been relegated claim. 'unimpressive' is that it? Is that what your spleen is all about??
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 23, 2016 21:54:03 GMT
Do you know how weird and odd our judges have behaved over the years? No, you don't. Whether they put oranges in their mouth or not in a court of law where another witness is Paul Scally for a judge to single you out as being unimpressive is I think pretty unique for a premier league manager certainly more unique than his never been relegated claim. Unimpressive witness or not Scally ended up settling out of court and paying out a large sum. As this thread started about damages and blame surely you can only draw the same conclusions you have with the Palace incident?
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 23, 2016 21:56:38 GMT
Whether they put oranges in their mouth or not in a court of law where another witness is Paul Scally for a judge to single you out as being unimpressive is I think pretty unique for a premier league manager certainly more unique than his never been relegated claim. 'unimpressive' is that it? Is that what your spleen is all about?? What spleen just stating the fact you do know unimpressive, unreliable etc are all just polite ways of the judge saying he thinks you're a liar.
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Post by PolPotter on Mar 23, 2016 22:01:58 GMT
'unimpressive' is that it? Is that what your spleen is all about?? What spleen just stating the fact you do know unimpressive, unreliable etc are all just polite ways of the judge saying he thinks you're a liar. Is that true? Our judicial system is like sooooo naff. Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 23, 2016 22:02:16 GMT
Whether they put oranges in their mouth or not in a court of law where another witness is Paul Scally for a judge to single you out as being unimpressive is I think pretty unique for a premier league manager certainly more unique than his never been relegated claim. Unimpressive witness or not Scally ended up settling out of court and paying out a large sum. As this thread started about damages and blame surely you can only draw the same conclusions you have with the Palace incident? www.theguardian.com/football/2001/apr/28/newsstory.sport7Come on MoMo stop trying to rewrite history he sued Gillingham for over £300k and settled at £75k when Gillingham has always accepted they owed him £50k. From memory he settled very shortly after his unimpressive witness performance.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 23, 2016 22:07:03 GMT
Unimpressive witness or not Scally ended up settling out of court and paying out a large sum. As this thread started about damages and blame surely you can only draw the same conclusions you have with the Palace incident? www.theguardian.com/football/2001/apr/28/newsstory.sport7Come on MoMo stop trying to rewrite history he sued Gillingham for over £300k and settled at £75k when Gillingham has always accepted they owed him £50k. From memory he settled very shortly after his unimpressive witness performance. So Gillingham and Scally were at fault then.
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 23, 2016 22:17:25 GMT
www.theguardian.com/football/2001/apr/28/newsstory.sport7Come on MoMo stop trying to rewrite history he sued Gillingham for over £300k and settled at £75k when Gillingham has always accepted they owed him £50k. From memory he settled very shortly after his unimpressive witness performance. So Gillingham and Scally were at fault then. He took them too court spent 3 or 4 days in the witness box and then settled at less than 25% of what he claimed he was owed and £20k more than Gillingham had accepted he should be paid which another website claimed was just his contractual notice. I stand corrected too Scally never even had to take the stand before TP did a Valencia away in court and settled
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Post by PolPotter on Mar 23, 2016 22:19:50 GMT
So Gillingham and Scally were at fault then. He took them too court spent 3 or 4 days in the witness box and then settled at less than 25% of what he claimed he was owed and £20k more than Gillingham had accepted he should be paid which another website claimed was just his contractual notice. I stand corrected too Scally never even had to take the stand before TP did a Valencia away in court and settled Too, two to. It's all the same when you're blinded by that 50 year old something hate and bitterness.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 23, 2016 22:20:13 GMT
So Gillingham and Scally were at fault then. He took them too court spent 3 or 4 days in the witness box and then settled at less than 25% of what he claimed he was owed and £20k more than Gillingham had accepted he should be paid which another website claimed was just his contractual notice. I stand corrected too Scally never even had to take the stand before TP did a Valencia away in court and settled I just thought it was worth mentioning that the honourable and virtuous Mr Scally had to pay up. It seemed to have got lost in 'some peoples' recounting of events for some reason. Can't think why.
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