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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 4, 2016 7:54:04 GMT
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Mar 4, 2016 8:32:32 GMT
Strange that he takes a dig at the likes of Higgy and Delap, both of which contributed a huge amount to our stability in the prem in those first few years. It's rare for a Mackem to admit we're going about things in the right way though to be fair. Still operating under that delusion that they're a sleeping giant by the looks of it though! Sent from my SM-G928F using proboards |
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 4, 2016 8:36:14 GMT
I found it a rather baffling mixture of delusion, faint praise a lack of respect to certain players that served them well and of course the usual total misinformed view of the Ramsey saga...so all in all the usual crock of shit from the wasteland that is the North East
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Post by Kjones9 on Mar 4, 2016 8:36:30 GMT
Fucking hell they're obsessed.
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Post by pyrus on Mar 4, 2016 8:50:33 GMT
We are really lucky. At the right time an owner with money and passion for the club decided to do something about it. He had the practicality to employ Pulis and the vision to employ Hughes. He Has had the sense to structure the club to make the management and playing side free from distractions; he has invested in infrastructure and has both backed and budgeted in the transfer market. We have all been rewarded with a wonder team, a seemingly bright future and even a few plaudits from time to time.
SAFC is a case of 'there, but for the grace of God and Peter Coates'. SAFC and Stoke have followed each other up an down the leagues over the years and here we both are in the Premier. But where we now have this solid base and positive momentum, they struggle every year with the relegation scrap. They don't seem to be able to build. And if they avoid relegation this year, they will get fed up with Allardyce next year and it will all amount to another frustrating time. The writer is correct; Consistency, progress, build slowly and don't go in search of quick fixes..
But I don't think we can or should look down our noses at them. I was there that day exactly 44 years ago today and I have seen our demise and rise, and you can go from one to the other in the blink of an eye.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 9:00:29 GMT
Part condesending, part delusional, part comlimentary, GCSE standard article......
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Post by werrington on Mar 4, 2016 9:04:02 GMT
No research re the Ramsey comment I see
Lazy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 9:06:31 GMT
The day you worry about what a Sunderland fan thinks of you is the day you jack it all in.
Dreadful club.
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 4, 2016 9:13:28 GMT
No research re the Ramsey comment I see Lazy HHHMMM Who were we playing when some savage broke Rory's leg? Let me think! |
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Post by werrington on Mar 4, 2016 9:15:42 GMT
No research re the Ramsey comment I see Lazy HHHMMM Who were we playing when some savage broke Rory's leg? Let me think! I don't think he's on about the actual tackle mate He's on about why we boo him ? |
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 4, 2016 9:20:39 GMT
HHHMMM Who were we playing when some savage broke Rory's leg? Let me think! I don't think he's on about the actual tackle mate He's on about why we boo him ? Right i quickly read through the article and couldn't see the comments so was just surmising they were being uncomplimentary although the Elliott tackle was an absolute shocker. |
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Post by potterblade on Mar 4, 2016 9:39:01 GMT
HHHMMM Who were we playing when some savage broke Rory's leg? Let me think! I don't think he's on about the actual tackle mate He's on about why we boo him ? He is right to point it out. Its probably the worst thing our supporters have done for the clubs image in nearly 20years. Even if it can be justified, to do it is and was utterly fucking brainless. |
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Post by wuzza on Mar 4, 2016 9:48:43 GMT
The lack of respect for Rory, Dean and Danny even in an article clearly meant as an exercise in 'self-realisation' perhaps says it all. If they felt themselves too good for those guys perhaps they deserved all they got and are continuing to get!!
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Post by wuzza on Mar 4, 2016 9:56:38 GMT
I don't think he's on about the actual tackle mate He's on about why we boo him ? He is right to point it out. Its probably the worst thing our supporters have done for the clubs image in nearly 20years. Even if it can be justified, to do it is and was utterly fucking brainless. I think the point is that we all know how wrong the media's presentation of the incident was and we have refused to be brow-beaten and just accept it. We have refused to 'know our place' and frankly we have been a stronger club because of it. Anyone stupid enough not to know the facts and draw the correct conclusions is welcome to have whatever opinion of the club they want as far as I am concerned! |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 4, 2016 10:09:38 GMT
I don't think he's on about the actual tackle mate He's on about why we boo him ? Right i quickly read through the article and couldn't see the comments so was just surmising they were being uncomplimentary although the Elliott tackle was an absolute shocker. I was there at both games and I don't think the Elliott tackle was a shocker any more than the Shawcross/Ramsey incident was. Both were footballing incidents which happen from time to time with no malice involved in either case. The Delap leg break was treated properly by both sets of fans, both players and both managers and (rightly) has never been regarded as an example of reckless play. The Ramsey incident was no more reckless than the Delap incident. But, because it happened to an Arsenal player, it was blown up out of all proportion by their manager and their fans who, between them, caused Ramsey to feel he had been a victim of deliberate thuggery and refuse to accept an apology from Shawcross. Add to this a London biased media and celebrity fans who won't let it rest and it is still a festering sore which is dredged up every time they visit the Brit. |
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 4, 2016 10:21:57 GMT
Have to disagree about the Elliott tackle he in my opinion went in on purpose my friend used to carry a photograph of the incident and if you saw the look of Elliott in the picture i have no doubt he meant to injure if not break the leg, when i saw it i said then he did it on purpose and i have no reason to change my mind.
The Ramsey tackle has been done to death but the cheering is more to do with Arsenal and their attitude towards our club rather than the actual tackle in my opinion.
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Post by werrington on Mar 4, 2016 10:26:35 GMT
Have to disagree about the Elliott tackle he in my opinion went in on purpose my friend used to carry a photograph of the incident and if you saw the look of Elliott in the picture i have no doubt he meant to injure if not break the leg, when i saw it i said then he did it on purpose and i have no reason to change my mind. The Ramsey tackle has been done to death but the cheering is more to do with Arsenal and their attitude towards our club rather than the actual tackle in my opinion. Elliott was as devastated as Shawcross was as technically Rory was still his team mate Pictures can be interpreted in any way you want ....I could show a picture and ask 4 different people what they see and all will probably see different |
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Post by ryan4england on Mar 4, 2016 10:28:46 GMT
Worked with a couple the season stoke got promoted, they were a great definition of the phrase Billy big bollocks, thought Sunderland were a class apart and laughed at stokes chances of staying up, I'd love to work with them again
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 10:32:22 GMT
Strange that he takes a dig at the likes of Higgy and Delap, both of which contributed a huge amount to our stability in the prem in those first few years. It's rare for a Mackem to admit we're going about things in the right way though to be fair. Still operating under that delusion that they're a sleeping giant by the looks of it though! Sent from my SM-G928F using proboards Stability? If it wasn't for Delap we might not be in this league at all. |
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Post by hooftastic on Mar 4, 2016 10:36:19 GMT
I'm going to repeat myself here; Sunderland fans know fuck all. They voted Danny Collins player of the season..... twice!
Unlike our man of the match sponsors I don't think they understand irony so they genuinely are that stupid
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Post by werrington on Mar 4, 2016 10:38:14 GMT
I'm going to repeat myself here; Sunderland fans know fuck all. They voted Danny Collins player of the season..... twice! Unlike our man of the match sponsors I don't think they understand irony so they genuinely are that stupid That's because he played centre half ( his position ) and not left back |
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Post by chayzenbacon on Mar 4, 2016 10:41:57 GMT
I'm going to repeat myself here; Sunderland fans know fuck all. They voted Danny Collins player of the season..... twice! Unlike our man of the match sponsors I don't think they understand irony so they genuinely are that stupid Indeed. And when their two-time player of season came to play for us he was immediately labelled a shit player by them. But that's football fans, most of us are like that. |
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Post by chayzenbacon on Mar 4, 2016 10:44:57 GMT
I don't think he's on about the actual tackle mate He's on about why we boo him ? He is right to point it out. Its probably the worst thing our supporters have done for the clubs image in nearly 20years. Even if it can be justified, to do it is and was utterly fucking brainless. I disagree. It's about sticking 2 fingers up to the media and the Arsenal bandwagon. Why the fuck are you worried about what they think of us? Don't waste sympathy on Ramsey, he's a multi-millionaire cunt with a great career. |
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Post by haway on Mar 4, 2016 10:54:06 GMT
I'm going to repeat myself here; Sunderland fans know fuck all. They voted Danny Collins player of the season..... twice! Unlike our man of the match sponsors I don't think they understand irony so they genuinely are that stupid He should play for Brazil. |
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