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Post by dadofsam on Feb 9, 2016 14:16:47 GMT
On the basis that they've been frozen for a decent time?
For me, even after the freeze the cost of tickets is still too high, especially the "on the day" prices.
Any increase should be resisted especially in light of the TV money bonanza heading the club's way.
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Post by Gods on Feb 9, 2016 14:22:47 GMT
I didn't know we knew that they are coming?
I am a pay of the day'er myself and I go to more away games than home games and (selfishly) I'd like to see less fleecing of those not able or willing to commit to the whole program so to speak!
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Post by pez75 on Feb 9, 2016 14:25:34 GMT
Depends if they are reasonable or not. Do not lose sight of the fact that we have been watching Premier League football for 8 yrs for the same price that we were paying in the Championship.
Our ST prices are as low if not lower than most of the league are they not?
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Post by gonk on Feb 9, 2016 14:33:24 GMT
Depends if they are reasonable or not. Do not lose sight of the fact that we have been watching Premier League football for 8 yrs for the same price that we were paying in the Championship. Our ST prices are as low if not lower than most of the league are they not? OR if the club said ,would we be willing to pay more if the ground was refurbish and the corners filled in.
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Post by foster on Feb 9, 2016 14:49:58 GMT
Depends if they are reasonable or not. Do not lose sight of the fact that we have been watching Premier League football for 8 yrs for the same price that we were paying in the Championship. Our ST prices are as low if not lower than most of the league are they not? Second cheapest I think, behind Watford. No problem with them increasing a bit. Though the stadium should get an expansion / upgrade at the same time.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Feb 9, 2016 14:53:24 GMT
The club have got an £8 billion TV deal &the world's largest online bookie to pay for stadium upgrades!
Thankfully our owners aren't bellends, and despite some of our supporters almost begging for a price increase, they'll once again do the right thing & leave them as they are.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Feb 9, 2016 14:55:40 GMT
If they increase them I don't think it will affect attendances and it will probably be a small increase, I will buy mine regardless. As for on the day prices I think the club has got it spot on, as a business it's all about supply and demand. Gouranga.
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Post by Kjones9 on Feb 9, 2016 14:56:30 GMT
What will it archieve raising the season ticket prices? The actual money gained will be literally pittance compared to what we are getting for the new tv deal.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 9, 2016 15:01:45 GMT
The timing of a rise now would eradicate all the previous goodwill shown.
They simply can't do it this year with everything that is going on. It would be utterly senseless.
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Post by salopstick on Feb 9, 2016 15:22:30 GMT
The timing of a rise now would eradicate all the previous goodwill shown. They simply can't do it this year with everything that is going on. It would be utterly senseless. I agree. Last year was the year to put them and they didn't. Interesting that they think the next Tv deal will be worth double considering the likes of Amazon and Netflix likely to get involved
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Post by Gods on Feb 9, 2016 15:39:31 GMT
The timing of a rise now would eradicate all the previous goodwill shown. They simply can't do it this year with everything that is going on. It would be utterly senseless. I agree they shouldn't put them up but what is everything that is 'going on' this season that wasn't last season? I say that hoping that losing 3-0 every week is just a temporary BLIP, so what else
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Post by stantheman on Feb 9, 2016 15:40:35 GMT
My ticket has been fine this season, until 3 weeks ago!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 9, 2016 15:49:28 GMT
The timing of a rise now would eradicate all the previous goodwill shown. They simply can't do it this year with everything that is going on. It would be utterly senseless. I agree they shouldn't put them up but what is everything that is 'going on' this season that wasn't last season? I say that hoping that losing 3-0 every week is just a temporary BLIP, so what else I said ‘this year’, Gods. I mean with the TV deal coming up and with the latest protest being the first one to seemingly get any fire underneath its arse it would be insane for some of the fairest owners around in regards of Premier League season ticket prices to choose now to change tack. If anything I was hoping for them to adapt their same policy with season tickets to matchday prices if anything.
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Post by Gods on Feb 9, 2016 16:19:56 GMT
I agree they shouldn't put them up but what is everything that is 'going on' this season that wasn't last season? I say that hoping that losing 3-0 every week is just a temporary BLIP, so what else I said ‘this year’, Gods. I mean with the TV deal coming up and with the latest protest being the first one to seemingly get any fire underneath its arse it would be insane for some of the fairest owners around in regards of Premier League season ticket prices to choose now to change tack. If anything I was hoping for them to adapt their same policy with season tickets to matchday prices if anything. Yes of course, got it!
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Post by fca47 on Feb 9, 2016 17:38:43 GMT
They are bound to go up sometime. A small percentage is fine by me.
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Post by danbury90 on Feb 9, 2016 17:50:52 GMT
I think it's time all BPL clubs reduce there ticket prices, before long it'll be too expensive to watch football. We're cows to the clubs, there'll milk us all dry.
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Post by trigger on Feb 9, 2016 17:55:08 GMT
They could sell our better players at a delflated market value, oh hang on.
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Post by Saul Krakinov on Feb 9, 2016 17:55:28 GMT
If they put every ST up by £50(a large % increase on current prices) that would only give them around £1m extra, which is absolutely nothing to a Premier League team in relation to the television money they get.
I don't really give a damn about the corners being filled in if I am expected to fund any part of it. Also don't feel that any kind of refurbishment is going to benefit me personally. Making the catering more efficient would be a massive improvement, but that is only going to be an advantage to the caterers.
No increase should EVER be made to prices for as long as we are a Premier League club imho
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Post by leicspotter on Feb 9, 2016 21:14:50 GMT
The timing of a rise now would eradicate all the previous goodwill shown. They simply can't do it this year with everything that is going on. It would be utterly senseless. It would certainly be pretty insensitive and a real "own goal" in the shadow of the mega money coming their way. At any other time it would probably not cause much of a fuss but right now it would be a big mistake
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 21:20:14 GMT
Let's be honest, it would be typical Stoke to do it now.
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Post by unknown182 on Feb 9, 2016 21:21:38 GMT
A quote from Bayern Munich's Chairman
"We could charge more than €130 (£104). Let's say we charged €380 (£300). We'd get €2.5m (£2m) more in income, but what's €2.5m to us?" "In a transfer discussion you argue about the sum for five minutes. But the difference between €130 and €380 is huge for the fans." "We do not think fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody." "That's the biggest difference between us and England."
I think Peter Coates would agree with that.
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Post by Lesalanos on Feb 9, 2016 21:43:09 GMT
Let's be honest, it would be typical Stoke to do it now. So it hasn't been typical stoke to hold the prices for the last seven years?
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Post by Lesalanos on Feb 9, 2016 21:45:03 GMT
They could sell our better players at a delflated market value, oh hang on. They were sold at the market values. That was all the market felt they were worth. What feel they are worth is irrelevant. Had we kept them they'd have gone for free at the end of their contracts, and neither we're prepared for new deals.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 9, 2016 21:55:40 GMT
If they put every ST up by £50(a large % increase on current prices) that would only give them around £1m extra, which is absolutely nothing to a Premier League team in relation to the television money they get.
I don't really give a damn about the corners being filled in if I am expected to fund any part of it. Also don't feel that any kind of refurbishment is going to benefit me personally. Making the catering more efficient would be a massive improvement, but that is only going to be an advantage to the caterers.
No increase should EVER be made to prices for as long as we are a Premier League club imho This. It makes no commercial sense and would be a PR disaster. So expect Scholes to fill his boots
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 9, 2016 22:56:07 GMT
I think Peter Coates is all over this issue and I for one am quite happy to abide with his decisions.
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 10, 2016 1:49:16 GMT
Given the new money about to fill the trough of dosh that's coming into the Premier League this season, putting up ST prices would be a real kick in the teeth for most fans, and that's irrespective of how well our own club have done in the past. You can have your star players, your top clubs, but they don't exist and neither does the Prem without fans. We're the seen but unseen asset of nogger. Saw Malcolm Clarke making the exact same point on TV.
OS.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 10, 2016 6:49:15 GMT
Dunner werrit. As ever most of the extra £8b media revenue will be hoovered up by inflated transfer fees, wages and agents fees. You only have to look at the increase in transfer fees and wages for mediocre/average players since we were promoted to see how this has transpired. Stoke have done brilliantly to hold down match day costs but it would be great to see them lead the way and actually reduce prices to £10 on the gate and £150 season ticket. They could easily do this without making even a small dent in finances but what a statement it would make. Doing this would mean that extra seats from filling in the corners would be snapped up. Come on Stoke just do eet.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 10, 2016 10:36:14 GMT
Dunner werrit. As ever most of the extra £8b media revenue will be hoovered up by inflated transfer fees, wages and agents fees. You only have to look at the increase in transfer fees and wages for mediocre/average players since we were promoted to see how this has transpired. Stoke have done brilliantly to hold down match day costs but it would be great to see them lead the way and actually reduce prices to £10 on the gate and £150 season ticket. They could easily do this without making even a small dent in finances but what a statement it would make. Doing this would mean that extra seats from filling in the corners would be snapped up. Come on Stoke just do eet. Mate I may be miles off the mark but doing a bit of mental maths I reckon our current gate receipts are somewhere between £7m & £8m which is in reality quite low in percentage terms of our overall income. I think your suggestion is a sound one but it would need a bit of tweaking ie you couldn't have the prawn sandwich brigade in their heated seats in the Q Railing paying the same as the poor bastards on the front row of the boothen getting hypothermia every week. But if you said the average ST price was say £125 and the average pay on the day was £15 it would give us annual gate receipts of around £4.2m. (and it would still be more cost effective to buy a ST) A maximum shortfall of at most say £3.8m. Not to be sneezed at I know but in the scheme of things a piss in the ocean compared to the increase in TV revenue. And combine this to ground expansion (which I accept has got to be paid for by someone) the cheap prices would almost certainly guarantee you would fill any number of new seats. If all the corners were filled in increasing capacity to 34k with half taken up by new ST holders and half pay on the day the revenue from ticket sales would increase to around £5.5m PA. And another thing, from such a low starting point small annual increases in price could then be justified by the club and would be accepted by the fans. Like I say I've done this on the back of a fag packet without the aid of a safety net so may be a million miles off and I know its not my money I'm talking about but I can't believe the club aren't even considering such a scenario. It would be a massive boost for the supporters and a huge PR coup for the club with very little (in the scheme of things) financial risk.
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Post by Theninjabadger on Feb 10, 2016 10:41:06 GMT
We will see if the club are behind the 20s plenty campaign if prices rise above £380 for a season ticket
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Post by thebet365 on Feb 10, 2016 10:48:28 GMT
I think it's time all BPL clubs reduce there ticket prices, before long it'll be too expensive to watch football. We're cows to the clubs, there'll milk us all dry. It's not as rosey in other countries either
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