Payet...

[miggo]

What would you want if in West Hams position offered over £20m profit on a player they have only had a short while.

He's ageing so not likely to get this kind of offer again but has been their best player ?

Tough call....

[bayernoatcake]

I'd be very tempted to sell, it's a lot of money.

[crouchie]

absolute no brainer he's 29 next month they will never get this sort of offer again and i would be very surprised if the player didn't want to double his wages
and it's a nice start for their summer transfer war chest

[Bick]

Big money but with the Premiership money next year and the fact that he is by far their best player - be better to hold on to him.

Transfers are only going to get more and more silly.

[haway]

If we think about it logically;

-West Ham won't get into the CL even with Payet (Leicester, Spurs, Arsenal & Man C have that sewn up). Also, the Europa League isn't financially worth it really - which is what the majority of clubs are bothered about nowadays.
-He's going to be nearly 30, only a very good player for a couple of more years most likely.
-He will likely be unsettled if the chance of a reported £160k after tax (I think) from this Chinese club was blown and will likely want similar off West Ham - meaning they'll have to offer an extension of around £300k a week.

It's a tough call given how good he is to them at the moment, but I think they should sell.

[Deleted]

Great player, much more affective than our man in the hole I'm afraid.

But 20milliion profit at his age I would say they have to sell him.

[Cast no shadow]

Its easy have an opinion with no affection to the club, but would you sell Shawcross, similar age for £20 mil profit, i know i wouldn't.

[Danstoke82]

West Ham need to sell remember….

oh wait….nah they will just offer him 100k + a week

[ryan4england]

Sell, he could be a one season wonder

[spitthedog]

Cant understand the argument for selling

1. You keep your best players if you have any ambition. Clubs invest alot in trying to recruit top performers, and most big buys dont necessarily work out, so when they do, make the most of it.

2. £20m doesn't necessarily buy a player as good, in fact its very difficult to get a player who performs consistently well in the Premiership like Payet for £20m

3. £20m is nothing for a Premiership club given the money coming in.

4. 29 years old = he's in his peak

[Deleted]

Why would they sell him?

He's there best player and they don't need the money.

As someone has already said,put the shoe on the other foot and answer the question if it was Shawcross.
Pretty much everyone to a man would say no.

[Paul Spencer]

Feb 10, 2016 10:00:48 GMT spitthedog said:

Cant understand the argument for selling

1. You keep your best players if you have any ambition. Clubs invest alot in trying to recruit top performers, and most big buys dont necessarily work out, so when they do, make the most of it.

2. £20m doesn't necessarily buy a player as good, in fact its very difficult to get a player who performs consistently well in the Premiership like Payet for £20m

3. £20m is nothing for a Premiership club given the money coming in.

4. 29 years old = he's in his peak

They're not offering £20 million though.

They're (apparently) offering THIRTY EIGHT million for him, that would be a £27.5 million PROFIT on what they paid for him seven months ago.

Very hard to see how they can turn it down.

[Paul Spencer]

Feb 10, 2016 10:13:12 GMT @sidlittlesballbag said:

Why would they sell him?

He's there best player and they don't need the money.

As someone has already said,put the shoe on the other foot and answer the question if it was Shawcross.
Pretty much everyone to a man would say no.

We'd sell Shawcross for £38 million.

[jimmygscfc]

It almost seems too good to be true but if he wants to go you'd have thought Gold and Sullivan would take the money and reinvest for team building. When Lanzini is back and Sakho returns, they'll be stronger than they are now anyway. I think they'll let Carroll go for £15 million or so, add another £10 million and buy a top notch striker, a Payet replacement and still have money for another centre back so they can stop resorting to James Collins. I think they'd be nuts not to take it.

[boskampsflaps]

Easy, sell him.

[ryan4england]

Feb 10, 2016 10:15:12 GMT Paul Spencer said:

Feb 10, 2016 10:00:48 GMT spitthedog said:

Cant understand the argument for selling

1. You keep your best players if you have any ambition. Clubs invest alot in trying to recruit top performers, and most big buys dont necessarily work out, so when they do, make the most of it.

2. £20m doesn't necessarily buy a player as good, in fact its very difficult to get a player who performs consistently well in the Premiership like Payet for £20m

3. £20m is nothing for a Premiership club given the money coming in.

4. 29 years old = he's in his peak

They're not offering £20 million though.

They're (apparently) offering THIRTY EIGHT million for him, that would be a £27.5 million PROFIT on what they paid for him seven months ago.

Very hard to see how they can turn it down.

At that price any sane person would be eager to sell wether the supporters liked it or not

[Theninjabadger]

How many people would take £30million for Butland? Very good half a season, £25+million profit. Only difference is the age.

[march4]

I wish they would offer £30M for Shaq.

[euanstokie123]

Why would you sell your best player? Money doesn't guarantee players will do well. Just look at Soldado, Benteke etc. I think liverpool would be doing a lot better than they are now had they kept suarez.

[Deleted]

Feb 10, 2016 10:16:53 GMT Paul Spencer said:

Feb 10, 2016 10:13:12 GMT @sidlittlesballbag said:

Why would they sell him?

He's there best player and they don't need the money.

As someone has already said,put the shoe on the other foot and answer the question if it was Shawcross.
Pretty much everyone to a man would say no.

We'd sell Shawcross for £38 million.

I wouldn't want us to sell Shawcross for any price mate.
The money is of no interest to me as a fan,our club doesn't need the money so I don't see any benefit whatsoever of selling our best players when we don't need to financially.

I'd feel the same about Payet if I was a West Ham fan.

I appreciate that every player has a price and that players can be replaced but,like I said,looking at it purely from a fans point of view I don't see how a club can progress by selling it's best players all the time.

[Paul Spencer]

Feb 10, 2016 15:43:20 GMT @sidlittlesballbag said:

Feb 10, 2016 10:16:53 GMT Paul Spencer said:

We'd sell Shawcross for £38 million.

I wouldn't want us to sell Shawcross for any price mate.
The money is of no interest to me as a fan,our club doesn't need the money so I don't see any benefit whatsoever of selling our best players when we don't need to financially.

I'd feel the same about Payet if I was a West Ham fan.

I appreciate that every player has a price and that players can be replaced but,like I said,looking at it purely from a fans point of view I don't see how a club can progress by selling it's best players all the time.

They can progress by reinvesting the (crazy) money offered wisely.

£38 million is crazy money, be it for Payet or Shawcross and there are no clubs in Europe who would come close to paying that sort of money for either of them.

This is a unique situation because the bid has come from China.

You said you wouldn't want us to sell Shawcross for ANY price.

Really ANY price?

[Deleted]

Feb 10, 2016 18:20:57 GMT Paul Spencer said:

Feb 10, 2016 15:43:20 GMT @sidlittlesballbag said:

I wouldn't want us to sell Shawcross for any price mate.
The money is of no interest to me as a fan,our club doesn't need the money so I don't see any benefit whatsoever of selling our best players when we don't need to financially.

I'd feel the same about Payet if I was a West Ham fan.

I appreciate that every player has a price and that players can be replaced but,like I said,looking at it purely from a fans point of view I don't see how a club can progress by selling it's best players all the time.

They can progress by reinvesting the (crazy) money offered wisely.

£38 million is crazy money, be it for Payet or Shawcross and there are no clubs in Europe who would come close to paying that sort of money for either of them.

This is a unique situation because the bid has come from China.

You said you wouldn't want us to sell Shawcross for ANY price.

Really ANY price?

No.
Unless I was getting the money for him
The money means fuck all to me,I would rather we kept our best player.

[davejohnno1]

Does the league in china have to abide by our transfer windows or can they sign him now?

[Paul Spencer]

Feb 10, 2016 19:01:31 GMT @sidlittlesballbag said:

Feb 10, 2016 18:20:57 GMT Paul Spencer said:

They can progress by reinvesting the (crazy) money offered wisely.

£38 million is crazy money, be it for Payet or Shawcross and there are no clubs in Europe who would come close to paying that sort of money for either of them.

This is a unique situation because the bid has come from China.

You said you wouldn't want us to sell Shawcross for ANY price.

Really ANY price?

No.
Unless I was getting the money for him
The money means fuck all to me,I would rather we kept our best player.

So if a Chinese club came in and said we'll offer you £100 million each for Butland, Shawcross and Bojan ... you think the club should turn down a third of a billion quid because the money (regardless of the amount, no matter how big) is irrelevant to you?

Can't you see that we could buy even BETTER players, as a result of the Chinese throwing around utterly stupid money?

[Deleted]

Feb 10, 2016 19:19:13 GMT Paul Spencer said:

Feb 10, 2016 19:01:31 GMT @sidlittlesballbag said:

No.
Unless I was getting the money for him
The money means fuck all to me,I would rather we kept our best player.

So if a Chinese club came in and said we'll offer you £100 million each for Butland, Shawcross and Bojan ... you think the club should turn down a third of a billion quid because the money (regardless of the amount, no matter how big) is irrelevant to you?

Can't you see that we could buy even BETTER players, as a result of the Chinese throwing around utterly stupid money?

That's never going to happen though is it,you're going slightly over the top here

All I was trying to say was that while every player has a price,there are certain players that I wouldn't want to lose for the kind of money that they could realistically fetch.

I know I said I wouldn't want to lose Shawcross for any price,and I wouldn't because he is that important to us,and no matter how much money we were offered for him, a club of our standing and stature would find it hard to replace him.

Look at Liverpool and how much trouble they've had in finding a replacement for Suarez.

[Paul Spencer]

Feb 10, 2016 19:33:57 GMT @sidlittlesballbag said:

Feb 10, 2016 19:19:13 GMT Paul Spencer said:

So if a Chinese club came in and said we'll offer you £100 million each for Butland, Shawcross and Bojan ... you think the club should turn down a third of a billion quid because the money (regardless of the amount, no matter how big) is irrelevant to you?

Can't you see that we could buy even BETTER players, as a result of the Chinese throwing around utterly stupid money?

That's never going to happen though is it,you're going slightly over the top here

All I was trying to say was that while every player has a price,there are certain players that I wouldn't want to lose for the kind of money that they could realistically fetch.

I know I said I wouldn't want to lose Shawcross for any price,and I wouldn't because he is that important to us,and no matter how much money we were offered for him, a club of our standing and stature would find it hard to replace him.

Look at Liverpool and how much trouble they've had in finding a replacement for Suarez.

To be fair I did ask you did you mean ANY price and you confirmed that yes you did mean ANY price, hence why I asked are you talking as much as a £100 million?

£38 million is already way beyond what Ryan could REALISTICALLY fetch.

[Cast no shadow]

Feb 10, 2016 10:13:12 GMT @sidlittlesballbag said:

Why would they sell him?

He's there best player and they don't need the money

They have a brand new stadium to pay for.

Oh.

[Deleted]

Feb 10, 2016 19:39:25 GMT Paul Spencer said:

Feb 10, 2016 19:33:57 GMT @sidlittlesballbag said:

That's never going to happen though is it,you're going slightly over the top here

All I was trying to say was that while every player has a price,there are certain players that I wouldn't want to lose for the kind of money that they could realistically fetch.

I know I said I wouldn't want to lose Shawcross for any price,and I wouldn't because he is that important to us,and no matter how much money we were offered for him, a club of our standing and stature would find it hard to replace him.

Look at Liverpool and how much trouble they've had in finding a replacement for Suarez.

To be fair I did ask you did you mean ANY price and you confirmed that yes you did mean ANY price, hence why I asked are you talking as much as a £100 million?

£38 million is already way beyond what Ryan could REALISTICALLY fetch.

And I stand by what I said.
Certain players,as in players who are worth more than money,ie Shawcross.

My original point stands as well,if I was a West Ham fan I wouldn't want us selling Payet for a £20 million profit.
I'd be wanting him signing another contract.

[Deleted]

Feb 10, 2016 19:40:42 GMT Cast no shadow said:

Feb 10, 2016 10:13:12 GMT @sidlittlesballbag said:

Why would they sell him?

He's there best player and they don't need the money

They have a brand new stadium to pay for.

Oh.

Now now

[Paul Spencer]

Feb 10, 2016 19:43:41 GMT @sidlittlesballbag said:

Feb 10, 2016 19:39:25 GMT Paul Spencer said:

To be fair I did ask you did you mean ANY price and you confirmed that yes you did mean ANY price, hence why I asked are you talking as much as a £100 million?

£38 million is already way beyond what Ryan could REALISTICALLY fetch.

And I stand by what I said.
Certain players,as in players who are worth more than money,ie Shawcross.

My original point stands as well,if I was a West Ham fan I wouldn't want us selling Payet for a £20 million profit.
I'd be wanting him signing another contract.

So what price would the Chinese need to offer in order for the deal to be acceptable to you?