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Post by trigger on Feb 7, 2016 20:22:39 GMT
And Hughes's reaction will be to drop Shaqiri for Walters and drop Mame for Crouch, oh hang on we tried that on Tuesday and we'll....
I'm still baffled as to why we never signed a forward but the owners will never sanction any such deal until we release Wingie/Walters or Crouch/Mame.
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Post by blackpoolred on Feb 7, 2016 20:24:49 GMT
It's obvious to anyone Mark Hughes needs a 'slumpbuster' ......... .......my wife fits the bill and I hereby offer her to Sparky Rather noble of you to offer you wife's services Can you offer her to the Bournemouth squad before next weeks game, or would that be asking a little too much
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Post by fca47 on Feb 7, 2016 20:29:06 GMT
Got to cut him some slack with the injuries and the number of games we've played recently. But that doesn't really explain our awful scoring record, he needs to find a resolution to the problem or we are going to sink like a stone.
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Feb 7, 2016 21:58:26 GMT
I don't think our poor run of form has anything to do with formations or tactics or any thing like that, we simply have too many players who are off-form or carrying injuries. Even the most dependable players like Whelan, Johnson and Pieters seem to be struggling at the moment, not to mention our front three BMX. Southampton went through a similar period earlier in the season, but they eventually got themselves back on track-hopefully so will we, sooner rather than later. In the meantime we (fans and club) must hold our nerve and not descend into backbiting!
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Post by Kjones9 on Feb 7, 2016 22:14:48 GMT
I don't think our poor run of form has anything to do with formations or tactics or any thing like that, we simply have too many players who are off-form or carrying injuries. Even the most dependable players like Whelan, Johnson and Pieters seem to be struggling at the moment, not to mention our front three BMX. Southampton went through a similar period earlier in the season, but they eventually got themselves back on track-hopefully so will we, sooner rather than later. In the meantime we (fans and club) must hold our nerve and not descend into backbiting! Far too much sense typed there though Brinsley. These same posters (that supposedly don't exist) have been waiting (not so) patiently for their moment in the sun, let them have it and ram it down their throats on our next good run. Tick tick.
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Feb 7, 2016 22:18:30 GMT
I don't think our poor run of form has anything to do with formations or tactics or any thing like that, we simply have too many players who are off-form or carrying injuries. Even the most dependable players like Whelan, Johnson and Pieters seem to be struggling at the moment, not to mention our front three BMX. Southampton went through a similar period earlier in the season, but they eventually got themselves back on track-hopefully so will we, sooner rather than later. In the meantime we (fans and club) must hold our nerve and not descend into backbiting! Far too much sense typed there though Brinsley. These same posters (that supposedly don't exist) have been waiting (not so) patiently for their moment in the sun, let them have it and ram it down their throats on our next good run. Tick tick.
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Post by superheroantonius on Feb 7, 2016 22:31:42 GMT
Point 1.. Hughes is a likeable manager who knows his stuff. point 2.. Given that we need more pace up front, more pace at the back and more pace out wide.. There can't be many people who don't think we need more pace. Point 3. I think sparky will bring in more pace to the team next season.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 7, 2016 23:24:04 GMT
Point 1.. Hughes is a likeable manager who knows his stuff. point 2.. Given that we need more pace up front, more pace at the back and more pace out wide.. There can't be many people who don't think we need more pace. Point 3. I think sparky will bring in more pace to the team next season. Seems like pace is key. We're playing catch up then. Again? Not sure Hughes has paid much attention to the km/h he's signed up so far. Nice thought though.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 8, 2016 8:28:11 GMT
I don't think our poor run of form has anything to do with formations or tactics or any thing like that, we simply have too many players who are off-form or carrying injuries. Even the most dependable players like Whelan, Johnson and Pieters seem to be struggling at the moment, not to mention our front three BMX. Southampton went through a similar period earlier in the season, but they eventually got themselves back on track-hopefully so will we, sooner rather than later. In the meantime we (fans and club) must hold our nerve and not descend into backbiting! This 100% not just Southampton, Palace, Everton and Man Utd have all had poor runs in fact the only two consistent teams this season have been Leicester and Villa unfortunately for Villa they've mainly been consistently shite.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 8:45:29 GMT
The Bournemouth match has an increased importance given our recent poor run of form. MH must lift the team and hopefully Ryan will be back. I did worry about MH's substitutions on Saturday. PO and Ireland brought nothing to the team when they came on. Why was Bojan left languishing on the bench? We are left bemoaning the dropping of vital points. We could have been well up there and in touching distance of our European dream Sadly, now , I think we will not beat last season's points tally! Come on you Potters and MH. Show em what you are made of next Saturday
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Post by Gods on Feb 8, 2016 8:48:49 GMT
I don't think our poor run of form has anything to do with formations or tactics or any thing like that, we simply have too many players who are off-form or carrying injuries. Even the most dependable players like Whelan, Johnson and Pieters seem to be struggling at the moment, not to mention our front three BMX. Southampton went through a similar period earlier in the season, but they eventually got themselves back on track-hopefully so will we, sooner rather than later. In the meantime we (fans and club) must hold our nerve and not descend into backbiting! The injury and loss of form situation you describe above has come about but and it has seen us put together a hat trick of 3-0 defeats in the Premier League, a brace of cup exits inside 4 days and score 1 (offside) goal in the last 10 hours. I just thought/hoped we had a set up which was a little more robust than that?
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Post by jeycov on Feb 8, 2016 8:54:43 GMT
I don't think our poor run of form has anything to do with formations or tactics or any thing like that, we simply have too many players who are off-form or carrying injuries. Even the most dependable players like Whelan, Johnson and Pieters seem to be struggling at the moment, not to mention our front three BMX. Southampton went through a similar period earlier in the season, but they eventually got themselves back on track-hopefully so will we, sooner rather than later. In the meantime we (fans and club) must hold our nerve and not descend into backbiting! This 100% not just Southampton, Palace, Everton and Man Utd have all had poor runs in fact the only two consistent teams this season have been Leicester and Villa unfortunately for Villa they've mainly been consistently shite. Very well put In an ideal world, the likes of Johnson, Pieters, Arnie ,Shaq .... could be rested as they are still not 100% fit / recovered from injury I'm disappointed to be out of the FA Cup, but the week off can't come soon enough Higher expectations lead to great disappointment, just a run of poor games and results.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Feb 8, 2016 9:00:23 GMT
I don't think he has lost the plot, but he made a significant mistake with his team selection at WBA and it is now costing us dearly. The 11 who started that day have all looked knackered since. Good managers lift their teams from a bad spell of form and I think LMH is a good manager. Totally agree March, we have to look back to this match which has been the catalyst for our bad form and messed up season. We flogged the likes of Bojan & Arnie in this game when we got totally Out-Toned when we should have played the likes of Walters/Crouch That meant the players were tired for the Livepool game where we didnt show up and then that run of 4 away defeats has killed all confidence. I think that Hughes in private will admit that as turning point of the season to go badly. The deeper worries are that we only have 1 Premier League quality Centre-Half in the squad with a dodgy back
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Post by scfc5 on Feb 8, 2016 9:07:46 GMT
Yes he has......besides our recent defeats,we have lost to West Brom home and away.....yes West Brom.....their fans are saying that their football is shit and they have taken six points off us.....that hurts more than anything,thanks to you Mark West Brom are now OUR bogey side....still waiting for you to wipe that smug grin off Pulis's face....explain yourself Mark......???? I'll explain it - ridiculous sendings off and decisions by officials in both games. Nothing to do with the manager. Next.
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Post by reddipotter on Feb 8, 2016 9:11:08 GMT
I don't think our poor run of form has anything to do with formations or tactics or any thing like that, we simply have too many players who are off-form or carrying injuries. Even the most dependable players like Whelan, Johnson and Pieters seem to be struggling at the moment, not to mention our front three BMX. Southampton went through a similar period earlier in the season, but they eventually got themselves back on track-hopefully so will we, sooner rather than later. In the meantime we (fans and club) must hold our nerve and not descend into backbiting! This 100% not just Southampton, Palace, Everton and Man Utd have all had poor runs in fact the only two consistent teams this season have been Leicester and Villa unfortunately for Villa they've mainly been consistently shite. The whole squad has lost form at the same time? No, what we saw on Saturday was a group of players who have lost confidence because they don't know what they are expected to do. Consequently, they make wrong decisions or, more often, no decision at all.
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Post by Godo on Feb 8, 2016 9:26:25 GMT
I think everyone is to blame for our current dilemma. This includes Mr Hughes for chopping and changing his selection and formation. Whoever buys the players for not buying a ball winning central midfielder and a strong centre back to supplement the squad. Some of the players for not putting a shift in. The fans for not raising the atmosphere and intensity in the stadium and for behaving like pricks and booing. Whoever runs the Academy for not developing any decent midfielders or defenders who we could place on the bench.
Even the usually reliable Whelan and Pieters have been poor and I’m afraid that Muniesa and Wollschied have confirmed my view that they are the least mobile centre back pairing in the division. A couple of times on Saturday when Muniesa was chasing back I could have sworn he was running backwards.
Mr Hughes should have stuck to the 4231 formation and the people who can most closely approximate the requirements of the roles within that formation. We should have permanently shipped out Sidwell, Odemwingie, Bardsley, Ireland, Crouch, Cameron and Wilson and freed up around £1milion in wages per month.
I don’t want to join the Leicester jizz-fest but when you watch them it always looks like they are playing on a very small pitch because they are so compact, so hardworking and are always closing down the opposition. Over the last month we have looked like we are playing on a pitch twice the size of the Nou Camp so spread out and disconnected have been the team, so little effort and movement has there been and so little closing down has occurred. Perhaps instead of running the dvd of the defeat against Everton Mr Hughes should be showing the team Leicester’s performance on Saturday?
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Post by rocket888888 on Feb 8, 2016 9:35:35 GMT
Get some perspective....up to Christmas people were raving about our team are results. There was at least one thread dreaming of us winning the Prem!
We then went into a five week period with two games every week including 120mins and the extremely emotionally draining penalty loss. It knackered a few players - Bojan and Shaq especially - both of which were coming back from injury and weren't particularly fit anyway.
We lost a few games and of course confidence is now a bit low. We just need to regroup, calm down, get back to basics and wait for a lucky break and start getting some confidence back.
I do agree with the OP that splitting up the best CB partnership in the league wasn't a step forward...it hasn't turned us into relegation candidates either though...
go watch the man city game again when you feel like slitting your wrists.
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Post by wadey on Feb 8, 2016 9:49:23 GMT
Agree with every word of Godo above, great assessment.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 8, 2016 9:50:04 GMT
This 100% not just Southampton, Palace, Everton and Man Utd have all had poor runs in fact the only two consistent teams this season have been Leicester and Villa unfortunately for Villa they've mainly been consistently shite. The whole squad has lost form at the same time? No, what we saw on Saturday was a group of players who have lost confidence because they don't know what they are expected to do. Consequently, they make wrong decisions or, more often, no decision at all. I'll agree they've lost confidence and a couple of players are badly out of form against an in form team who will likely finish top 6 that's all that is needed. But not knowing what they are expected to do I have to disagree.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 19:00:59 GMT
Three consecutive 3-0 defeats in the League, a League Cup exit and a FA Cup surrender would suggest that he is in some form of meltdown at the moment. How anyone can argue differently is quite astonishing.
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Post by milky on Feb 13, 2016 19:04:04 GMT
Three consecutive 3-0 defeats in the League, a League Cup exit and a FA Cup surrender would suggest that he is in some form of meltdown at the moment. How anyone can argue differently is quite astonishing. Mr Urananas is one such poster who seems to have gone "missing "tonight. How odd
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 19:10:29 GMT
Mr Urananas is one such poster who seems to have gone "missing "tonight. How odd If you are that interested in me matey then I suggest you visit the match thread where I predicted a comfortable victory earlier this week. Don't try to be a smart-arse sunshine.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 19:13:39 GMT
Mr Urananas is one such poster who seems to have gone "missing "tonight. How odd If you are that interested in me matey then I suggest you visit the match thread where I predicted a comfortable victory earlier this week. Don't try to be a smart-arse sunshine. But are you still astonished?
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Post by milky on Feb 13, 2016 19:15:17 GMT
Mr Urananas is one such poster who seems to have gone "missing "tonight. How odd If you are that interested in me matey then I suggest you visit the match thread where I predicted a comfortable victory earlier this week. Don't try to be a smart-arse sunshine. I'm pleased for you So can we put this Hughes is on meltdown to bed then?It was bollocks then and its still bollocks.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 19:17:34 GMT
If you are that interested in me matey then I suggest you visit the match thread where I predicted a comfortable victory earlier this week. Don't try to be a smart-arse sunshine. But are you still astonished? Astonished ...because anybody who thinks three 3-0 defeats on the bounce is not worried.ok?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 19:18:31 GMT
If you are that interested in me matey then I suggest you visit the match thread where I predicted a comfortable victory earlier this week. Don't try to be a smart-arse sunshine. I'm pleased for you So can we put this Hughes is on meltdown to bed then?It was bollocks then and its still bollocks. See previous post reference your stalking partner
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 19:20:45 GMT
But are you still astonished? Astonished ...because anybody who thinks three 3-0 defeats on the bounce is not worried.ok? You now use the word "worried" rather than "meltdown".
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Post by Lesalanos on Feb 13, 2016 19:21:16 GMT
Threads like this do go to show how many no nothing's follow our team. We lose a few and he's lost the plot, win a few and its Europe!!
The nummy you on about our defeats to west brom, clearly was there or has selective memory!
We won today and I'm enjoying the fact that I chose to go. As are the supporters on the train heading home.
We aren't getting carried away though, we've played better and lost. Let's not get to low when we lose and start accusing the manager of losing the plot. Likewise he doesn't become the new messiah after a few wins.
Bottom line is we'll finish somewhere between 7 and 15th.weve got another great addition to the team, bojan is now on a long term contract.
The last time I visited Bournemouth I'd never have dreamt in my wildest dreams the players we have now, and the manager we've got.
Be Proud, Be Loyal, Be Stoke....".............and stop knicker wetting!
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Post by milky on Feb 13, 2016 19:23:26 GMT
I'm pleased for you So can we put this Hughes is on meltdown to bed then?It was bollocks then and its still bollocks. See previous post reference your stalking partner Three 3-0 defeats on the bounce isn't very clever but didn't prove the manager was on meltdown. You've been made to look a dick and you don't like it .
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 19:23:46 GMT
Astonished ...because anybody who thinks three 3-0 defeats on the bounce is not worried.ok? You now use the word "worried" rather than "meltdown". No ...it's a different word. He was in a position where he placed priority over Cup. Wrongly in my opinion. That's why I think he was in meltdown.
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