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Post by no1972 on Feb 6, 2016 20:01:53 GMT
Pulis boys battering Arnie but remain totally silent on the Walters efforts of late It's pathetic This whole board is pathetic tonight, it's embarrassing. Not as pathetic as what we had to watch today,all we want is some effort,not someone flinging his hands in the air and walking around if he just dose not want to be here,Arnie needs to remember 90% of fans had never heard of him.Before he came to Stoke we gave him a platform he has not put a decent performance since he turned a new contract down.
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Post by no1972 on Feb 6, 2016 20:02:22 GMT
Pulis boys battering Arnie but remain totally silent on the Walters efforts of late It's pathetic This whole board is pathetic tonight, it's embarrassing. Not as pathetic as what we had to watch today,all we want is some effort,not someone flinging his hands in the air and walking around if he just dose not want to be here,Arnie needs to remember 90% of fans had never heard of him.Before he came to Stoke we gave him a platform he has not put a decent performance since he turned a new contract down.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 20:03:12 GMT
Some of the responses on this thread remind me of the time we lost to Luton and some fans were suggesting he needs to be fucked off sharpish. He went on to be our most influential player for a good run of games! He was definitely poor today and has been for a couple of games now but I'm confident he'll come good again. That's the problem with the team in general. Arnie oscillates between brilliance and utter shite on a regular basis. So does the team - we beat manure, city and Chelsea but also go on a run of 3 consecutive 3-0 losses I don't ever remember us winning 3 games in a row We are not consistent that's why we cannot aspire for a place in Europe I agree with this. We have too many inconsistent players in our team. Players who if they aren't playing well offer you absolutely nothing in terms of work rate etc. We are really struggling.
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Post by march4 on Feb 6, 2016 20:04:41 GMT
I don't know what is up with Arnie, but he doesn't look like he's that bothered.
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Post by werrington on Feb 6, 2016 20:06:12 GMT
This whole board is pathetic tonight, it's embarrassing. Not as pathetic as what we had to watch today,all we want is some effort,not someone flinging his hands in the air and walking around if he just dose not want to be here,Arnie needs to remember 90% of fans had never heard of him.Before he came to Stoke we gave him a platform he has not put a decent performance since he turned a new contract down. Liverpool away been totally wiped from the history books then Your posts get worse
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 6, 2016 20:07:17 GMT
That's the problem with the team in general. Arnie oscillates between brilliance and utter shite on a regular basis. So does the team - we beat manure, city and Chelsea but also go on a run of 3 consecutive 3-0 losses I don't ever remember us winning 3 games in a row We are not consistent that's why we cannot aspire for a place in Europe I agree with this. We have too many inconsistent players in our team. Players who if they aren't playing well offer you absolutely nothing in terms of work rate etc. We are really struggling. I don't see how any fan can argue with that mate
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Feb 6, 2016 20:07:55 GMT
He's been sussed, always wants to go inside! Since he emerged as our main goal threat he spends less time out wide, where he does the most damage. It was nearly always left to Eric to get down the left and cross. By the time we worked him into that position their defence was back in full and organised. It is right to expect more of Arnie (and Shaq ) - last few games our "big" players haven't done the business.
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Post by beechwood14 on Feb 6, 2016 20:09:59 GMT
arnautovic is the modern day ricardo fuller for us ,if hes in the mood brilliant if hes not so frustrating but thats what you get with flambouyant individuals
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Post by lancer on Feb 6, 2016 20:21:07 GMT
Hughes is at fault for not bringing in cover/competition for both flanks. No, entirely disagree. The players we now have are payed well, very, very well to do what they are payed to do. The fact that they have little, or no competition for their place should not come into it. They are priofessional footballers, a very privilged community, and they owe what they have and will have to the fans that turn up week after week, in all weathers, paying good money to watch them. At the moment, if I was Arnie- of whom I am a big fan- doesn't not get his act together and start producing week after week,rather than delaying his new contact with Stoke, he should be knocking at the door at Stoke begging for a contract to sign because he will not be in big demand regardless of what he may think of himself.
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Post by jeycov on Feb 6, 2016 20:29:32 GMT
There is a thread somewhere how are Leicester managing to stay a the top, the main conclusion is team spirit, Arnie just would not get a look in at Leicester, if it isn't going his way then he just doesn't give a fuck. I think that the problem is that Arnie does, care, he finds it hard to manage his frustration when things are not going well. Lots of fans are the same, they do care but show their frustration when things aren't going well!!! Patience needed all round
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 20:34:57 GMT
Hughes is at fault for not bringing in cover/competition for both flanks. No, entirely disagree. The players we now have are payed well, very, very well to do what they are payed to do. The fact that they have little, or no competition for their place should not come into it. They are priofessional footballers, a very privilged community, and they owe what they have and will have to the fans that turn up week after week, in all weathers, paying good money to watch them. At the moment, if I was Arnie- of whom I am a big fan- doesn't not get his act together and start producing week after week,rather than delaying his new contact with Stoke, he should be knocking at the door at Stoke begging for a contract to sign because he will not be in big demand regardless of what he may think of himself. I think Arnie and Shaqiri need a rest. Arnie has had a lingering back problem for months. It looks like it's coming to a head. On top of that, there may be some of the contract nonsense going on. On top of that we know he has the ability to swing from one extreme to the other, although I think this is overplayed by those that just don't like him. Shaqiri has had hamstring issues, and those that have played and have suffered from it will tell you that rest recovers it better than anything and it doesn't disappear in a few weeks. In these situations i'd say 'trust the medics because they know better than anything' but then you look at the subs bench and reserve squad and realise we've got NO OTHER OPTION to use. Diouf is useless out wide. Odemwingie is done for and Walters has been pathetic since his contract renewal (Typical Tory eh? Get what they want and take the foot off the gas! ).
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Post by MuddyWoody on Feb 6, 2016 20:42:00 GMT
Hughes is at fault for not bringing in cover/competition for both flanks. This can't be stressed enough for me.
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Post by no1972 on Feb 6, 2016 20:42:55 GMT
Not as pathetic as what we had to watch today,all we want is some effort,not someone flinging his hands in the air and walking around if he just dose not want to be here,Arnie needs to remember 90% of fans had never heard of him.Before he came to Stoke we gave him a platform he has not put a decent performance since he turned a new contract down. Liverpool away been totally wiped from the history books then Your posts get worse He did not play well that night ok he scored but he could not miss.
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Post by trentvale68 on Feb 6, 2016 20:45:52 GMT
Still dining off the Man City game - then again he aint the only one
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Post by feynmann2 on Feb 6, 2016 20:52:48 GMT
I was one of Arnie's biggest critics for his inconsistency in the summer, suggesting he should be replaced before Walters, but he was no worse than many today and to be honest we looked on top until two quick goals on top of a poor run took all the stuffing out of us
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Post by djduncanjames on Feb 6, 2016 21:22:35 GMT
I love Arnie, he does get moody though. Hope he signs, and we get cover this summer. Everybody is different, just need to be patient with him
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Post by ryd1967 on Feb 6, 2016 21:31:48 GMT
I love Arnie, he does get moody though. Hope he signs, and we get cover this summer. Everybody is different, just need to be patient with him Sorry he doesn't offer anything at this moment in time. More interested in adjusting his hair
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 21:42:08 GMT
Top. Scorer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 21:44:15 GMT
I think that says more about the rest of our strikers to be honest
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Post by lastoftheldk on Feb 6, 2016 21:45:51 GMT
Haven't read the the thread, he is the best player we have,
Nearest player we have to world class, can't do it on his own.
Hoof hoof hoof hoof
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 21:46:36 GMT
I think that says more about the rest of our strikers to be honest 8 from a winger isn't to be sniffed at by Feb, regardless of the forwards.
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Post by kustokie on Feb 6, 2016 21:46:47 GMT
Have to say Arnie has been utter shite of late and needs dropping imo like other players have been when they've not performed for a while.No desire in his last few games and surely the contract talk is affecting him ? If they drop everyone that played badly over the last 4 or 5 games they wouldn't be much left! Arnie's the scapegoat because he wears his heart on his sleeve. He's still our top scorer!
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 6, 2016 21:48:35 GMT
Have to say Arnie has been utter shite of late and needs dropping imo like other players have been when they've not performed for a while.No desire in his last few games and surely the contract talk is affecting him ? If they drop everyone that played badly over the last 4 or 5 games they wouldn't be much left! Arnie's the scapegoat because he wears his heart on his sleeve. He's still our top scorer! He's not a scapegoat for me mate just playing poorly which normally results in being dropped by Sparky if other players are to go by
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 21:50:39 GMT
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 6, 2016 21:52:15 GMT
Do it for his last 6 games
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Post by Theninjabadger on Feb 6, 2016 21:57:50 GMT
To single out one player for our poor form is fucking pathetic. Yes Arnie has poor recently but no worse than Johnson, Wollschied, Muniesa, Pieters, Whelan, Affelay, Shaqiri, Diouff & Bojan. Spot the pattern here? The whole team minus Butland are lacking confidence and form. But it's far easier to lay the blame at Arnie because he hasn't signed a contract yet or his head drops first. Trying getting behind the bloke, sing his name, lift his spirits because I promise you this, you'll miss him if he goes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 22:01:05 GMT
Do it for his last 6 games Closest I could get, passing stats since New Year:
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Feb 6, 2016 22:02:09 GMT
Kind of makes you think Jose had a point about him. The man is a petulant child a lot of the time. More than happy to live with the sulks if he's creating but he's done more of less nothing for weeks.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Feb 6, 2016 22:05:11 GMT
Kind of makes you think Jose had a point about him. The man is a petulant child a lot of the time. More than happy to live with the sulks if he's creating but he's done more of less nothing for weeks. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards But still more than most, and stats back it! So why not have other multiple player threads? Scapegoat! I hope he leaves so it shuts a few on here up.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 6, 2016 22:10:57 GMT
I don't know what is up with Arnie, but he doesn't look like he's that bothered. Arnautovic plays well when the team's playing well. When they're not then neither does he. A really class player can lift a side. Arnie just bends with the wind.
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