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Post by spitthedog on Jan 5, 2016 22:34:20 GMT
Total complacency. Too many players thinking they are better than they actually are. Wanted way too long on the ball and the passing was dreadful. Klopp did his homework alright.
We have played well in 5 or 6 games this season, I think that has gone missing in all of the hype.
The only plus side is that none of our players looked like they wanted to attract other clubs.
The other plus is, unbelievably, we are not out of it yet!!!
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Post by carinthuan on Jan 5, 2016 22:36:44 GMT
As you sure know what's going on in the players heads. Watch the game and watch Stoke getting outsmarted for 90 minutes. There was one manager today that knew exactly how to make the other team irrelevant and it wasn't Stokes manager.
Don't get me wrong, I think Hughes is great but he only operates with one plan. Counter it and there will be no relevant danger from Stokes offense.
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Post by skip on Jan 5, 2016 22:38:26 GMT
Hughes' had a second plan but it didn't quite come off. Coulda/shoulda started with Plan B arguably, but he did change things around pretty radically.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 5, 2016 22:39:01 GMT
As you sure know what's going on in the players heads. Watch the game and watch Stoke getting outsmarted for 90 minutes. There was one manager today that knew exactly how to make the other team irrelevant and it wasn't Stokes manager. Don't get me wrong, I think Hughes is great but he only operates with one plan. Counter it and there will be no relevant danger from Stokes offense. I think you're absolutely correct. We looked like we just need to show up to win it. I just think tonight showed we have not been worthy of all the hype
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Post by carinthuan on Jan 5, 2016 22:39:22 GMT
Hughes' had a second plan but it didn't quite come off. Coulda/shoulda started with Plan B arguably, but he did change things around pretty radically. I haven't seen Plan B working this season (I have not seen all games). What would Plan B be?
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Post by wuzza on Jan 5, 2016 22:39:50 GMT
The hype has been ridiculous. We play badly as often as we play well hence we are a mid table side. Things will settle down again and we will get on with the task of finishing in the top 10 which will be a good achievemement.
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Post by StokieNath on Jan 5, 2016 22:40:55 GMT
Bojan is overhyped a lot
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Post by skip on Jan 5, 2016 22:41:47 GMT
Hughes' had a second plan but it didn't quite come off. Coulda/shoulda started with Plan B arguably, but he did change things around pretty radically. I haven't seen Plan B working this season (I have not seen all games). What would Plan B be? Well for the last twenty five minutes or so they virtually bypassed the midfield and played balls into the channels for crosses and replaced small player Shaw for very tall player Crouch whilst Walters was already on the pitch. The last quarter of the game couldn't have been more different to the first half.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 5, 2016 22:41:48 GMT
Exactly what I was saying on another thread. The only thing missing from our front three tonight is big red headphones on waking into the stadium. I love all three but tonight they tried to play as individuals.
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Post by StokieNath on Jan 5, 2016 22:43:12 GMT
I know it's like swearing in a church, but come on he hasn't been himself since January 2015
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Post by werrington on Jan 5, 2016 22:45:25 GMT
I know it's like swearing in a church, but come on he hasn't been himself since January 2015 Dear fucking God Have you missed Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea
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Post by carinthuan on Jan 5, 2016 22:45:39 GMT
I haven't seen Plan B working this season (I have not seen all games). What would Plan B be? Well for the last twenty five minutes or so they virtually bypassed the midfield and played balls into the channels for crosses and replaced small player Shaw for very tall player Crouch whilst Walters was already on the pitch. The last quarter of the game couldn't have been more different to the first half. It was different, I give you that much. But it was equally ineffective, wasn't it? As far as I can tell, all Liverpool did was keeping Stoke as far away from creating chances as possible and waiting for some inevitable lucky punch from all the negging they did. It's commen knowledge now that you don't let your defense out when you play against Stoke (or you will most certainly be slaughtered)
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Post by stokeson on Jan 5, 2016 22:45:43 GMT
now that we are out of the cup ( as far as the media is concerned) we can go to Anfield and play with freedom. Their. fans will be so full of it now they will forget that they were no more than average tonight and we were more tense than any team ive seen at the brit . 1-0 halftime plenty to play for...
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Post by StokieNath on Jan 5, 2016 22:47:11 GMT
I know it's like swearing in a church, but come on he hasn't been himself since January 2015 Dear fucking God Have you missed Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea 3 games that's world class isn't it ? Arnie has carried us through this season attacking wise. Boj is weak and gives the ball away way too many times when the going gets tough he's nowhere to be seen
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 5, 2016 22:47:29 GMT
I know it's like swearing in a church, but come on he hasn't been himself since January 2015 He was out injured for 9 months and hasn't missed a game since he came back, I think a little bit of rotation and a couple on the bench to freshen him up will do the world of good for him! Form is temporary, class is permanent
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Post by StokeAz on Jan 5, 2016 23:09:14 GMT
Dear fucking God Have you missed Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea 3 games that's world class isn't it ? Arnie has carried us through this season attacking wise. Boj is weak and gives the ball away way too many times when the going gets tough he's nowhere to be seen
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Post by StokieNath on Jan 5, 2016 23:10:27 GMT
3 games that's world class isn't it ? Arnie has carried us through this season attacking wise. Boj is weak and gives the ball away way too many times when the going gets tough he's nowhere to be seen That's nice
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Post by StokeAz on Jan 5, 2016 23:11:30 GMT
I was referring to u
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 5, 2016 23:11:42 GMT
You're whipping yourself into a frenzy.
Go have a lie down.... Like.
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Post by StokieNath on Jan 5, 2016 23:27:24 GMT
I was referring to u Oh rather childish but I fully respect your opinion.
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Post by StokeAz on Jan 5, 2016 23:37:07 GMT
I was referring to u Oh rather childish but I fully respect your opinion. Ur literally on every page saying that we are over hyped... This team has looked world class against the likes of Man U, Chelsea and man city but doesn't work the same and I think we need a big man up front and move bojan back as it clearly doesn't work against teams that sit back in numbers whenever we attack them (usually the lower teams). And if u think our players are overhyped then look no further than Southampton - lallana 28m, schneiderlin 25m, lovren 20m, etc. Whereas arnie 7.5m atm, bojan 10m yet teams still aren't queuing up for them at that price...
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Post by StokieNath on Jan 5, 2016 23:41:25 GMT
Those players also, yes massively overhyped and overrated I do yes agree, but let's be honest Bojan can't seem to get a sniff when the game is either shutdown defensivly and he is outfought, simply not strong enough, he placed a lot of bad balls tonight and there's no denying that there's talent there, he's just overhyped for the performances he actually puts in
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 5, 2016 23:47:24 GMT
We look like a decent team when the opposition gives us space to play , when they deny us space we don't have any way of beating them , they were so much sharper than us it was embarrassing , Klopp expects his team to work their bollocks off and tonight they did it for him . We should have hit them where they were weak by bombarding them with crosses which they can't deal with but we insisted in trying to play through a technically better and fitter team absolute shite sorry but we do t get to many semi finals and it will take a huge effort to get back into this now
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 5, 2016 23:53:49 GMT
Those players also, yes massively overhyped and overrated I do yes agree, but let's be honest Bojan can't seem to get a sniff when the game is either shutdown defensivly and he is outfought, simply not strong enough, he placed a lot of bad balls tonight and there's no denying that there's talent there, he's just overhyped for the performances he actually puts in There are times when I actually feel sorry for some of our supporters. We have world class footballers playing for us and they can't enjoy them.
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Post by StokieNath on Jan 5, 2016 23:55:29 GMT
Those players also, yes massively overhyped and overrated I do yes agree, but let's be honest Bojan can't seem to get a sniff when the game is either shutdown defensivly and he is outfought, simply not strong enough, he placed a lot of bad balls tonight and there's no denying that there's talent there, he's just overhyped for the performances he actually puts in There are times when I actually feel sorry for some of our supporters. We have world class footballers playing for us and they can't enjoy them. did I say I didn't enjoy watching him play, your not reading the post right, I'm just saying he's overhyped and his performances are hit and miss, it doesn't mean I don't like the fella or don't enjoy watching him play... Christ
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 6, 2016 0:00:08 GMT
What team who have set out to stop us playing have we beaten this season ? I can only think of Bournemouth and that was very close we have a lot of ability but a long way to go yet
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jan 6, 2016 0:00:15 GMT
Good lord above.
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 6, 2016 0:02:14 GMT
There are times when I actually feel sorry for some of our supporters. We have world class footballers playing for us and they can't enjoy them. did I say I didn't enjoy watching him play, your not reading the post right, I'm just saying he's overhyped and his performances are hit and miss, it doesn't mean I don't like the fella or don't enjoy watching him play... Christ He had a quiet game today and you're saying he's overhyped. No he isn't, he's a fantastic footballer who cost us about half a million. Hardly overhyped. why not just say Bojan had a poor game by his standards?
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Post by StokieNath on Jan 6, 2016 0:03:27 GMT
did I say I didn't enjoy watching him play, your not reading the post right, I'm just saying he's overhyped and his performances are hit and miss, it doesn't mean I don't like the fella or don't enjoy watching him play... Christ He had a quiet game today and you're saying he's overhyped. No he isn't, he's a fantastic footballer who cost us about half a million. Hardly overhyped. why not just say Bojan had a poor game by his standards? He's quiet in the majority of games, he's not word class by any stretch of the imagination
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 6, 2016 0:06:32 GMT
He had a quiet game today and you're saying he's overhyped. No he isn't, he's a fantastic footballer who cost us about half a million. Hardly overhyped. why not just say Bojan had a poor game by his standards? He's quiet in the majority of games, he's not word class by any stretch of the imagination Ok Nath
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