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Post by salopstick on Mar 5, 2015 19:17:59 GMT
Tim Sherwood has already won it
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 5, 2015 19:21:57 GMT
I've no idea what the criteria are that they judge by, but Hughsey's got to be in the running.
I didn't want him here after Pulis left and after his record at QPR, but he's just got better and better.
A good fit between him and Stoke, who are doing the right thing getting him signed up on a new contract.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 19:39:44 GMT
As unfair as it is, I can't see it going to anyone but Mourinho, as his team has been so dominant, which is understandable, considering the budget he's had. Achieving anything with the budget Hughes' has had (or hasn't had) is more deserving though. Surviving relegation on a shoe-string budget deserves credit, but to place strongly, in those circumstances, deserves respect. Didn't TP get it last year - or one of the awards anyway. There seems to be a feeling in recent years that the manager of the Champions should not be guaranteed to win. Maybe, but Stoke fans should be hoping Hughes doesn't get it and Stoke don't make the headlines or show first on M.O.T.D. Those things only benefit a managers cv. The more successful he looks, the more likely he'll get poached. Aim for quiet success. Being under the radar is good for Stoke.
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Post by salopstick on Mar 5, 2015 19:41:48 GMT
Didn't TP get it last year - or one of the awards anyway. There seems to be a feeling in recent years that the manager of the Champions should not be guaranteed to win. Maybe, but Stoke fans should be hoping Hughes doesn't get it and Stoke don't make the headlines or show first on M.O.T.D. Those things only benefit a managers cv. The more successful he looks, the more likely he'll get poached. Aim for quiet success. Being under the radar is good for Stoke. Pulis won prem manager of the year I'd rather hughes be in a position where he could be poached than be in a position where he could be sacked. His level is just outside the top 4 and he's doing fine as it is
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 20:00:21 GMT
Maybe, but Stoke fans should be hoping Hughes doesn't get it and Stoke don't make the headlines or show first on M.O.T.D. Those things only benefit a managers cv. The more successful he looks, the more likely he'll get poached. Aim for quiet success. Being under the radar is good for Stoke. Pulis won prem manager of the year I'd rather hughes be in a position where he could be poached than be in a position where he could be sacked. His level is just outside the top 4 and he's doing fine as it is I agree it is better to be noticed for good performance than bad, but it is better for Stoke to quietly reward a manager if they believe he is good for the club, than shout his plaudits about the place and get him noticed. It's difficult to prove his level though, because his best shot at a higher level was City, where the fans were against him for being a United legend and the owner who hired him, sold it to Arabs who wanted their own man and sacked him before January, for drawing too many games in what would have been his first full season. They were really looking for an excuse to bring in their own choice. Other than not getting a real chance at City and the debacle that (still) is QPR, he has done a good job at the clubs he's managed and until he gets a fair shot at a top club and fails, can you claim he's not good enough to be a top tier manager. If he carries on the way he is going now, I can see United coming in for him when Van Gaal retires or is sacked. Fergie brought the United fans hero back from Bayern Munich, maybe the Glazer brothers will do the same? He'd definitely get a fair shot at making things work as a United manager, as many of us "shit fan, glory hunters" would welcome one our, true, legends back.
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Post by salopstick on Mar 5, 2015 20:02:35 GMT
You really know nothing. Hughes has been noticed for years
There are more than 4 teams in the top tier. He has proved bar 12 games he can hack it in the top tier
Jog on
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 5, 2015 20:08:18 GMT
Mourinho can now only lose it by squandering the lead and just winning the Prem. and still could well get it.
Hughes only has a reasonable chance if Stoke finish higher than Southampton.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 5, 2015 20:14:26 GMT
You really know nothing. Hughes has been noticed for years There are more than 4 teams in the top tier. He has proved bar 12 games he can hack it in the top tier Jog on Great counterpoint. There are a handful of clubs with the budget and infrastructure to compete for the Premier League title. They are the top tier. Stoke isn't one of them. Neither was Blackburn, Fulham or QPR. But I know nothing and you know exactly what Hughes' level is. He needs your advice to learn his place.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 5, 2015 20:49:21 GMT
he would be in the mix if people took everything into account (i.e. money spent on transfers etc.) however it isn't really a "Manager of the Year" award anyway, it's more of a "Which club have the media jizzed about most over the last few months" award so i fully expect it to go to Koeman if it's not Mourinho ( and if Jose wins the Prem, League Cup and progresses to a semi in the CL then it would actually be hard to begrudge him that to be fair) Apart from the £120m he spent on players and that's just in the summer 2014 window.. Let's face it any half decent manager can build a successful team given unlimited funds well most anyway.
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Post by march4 on Mar 5, 2015 21:16:56 GMT
It should be between LMH and TP.
There is no merit in spending £100M+ every year to win something.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Mar 6, 2015 10:37:18 GMT
Mourinho or Rogers are a shoe in in spite of the fact they have spent in 2 years more than we have in 7. Nature of the beast.
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Post by burberrybassist on Mar 6, 2015 16:30:29 GMT
Hughes close second to Koeman in regards to Prem manager of the year. Overall will go to whoever wins the Prem or gets the furthest in Europe (so Mourinho most probably) in my opinion (rightly or wrongly)
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jun 16, 2015 17:56:35 GMT
This isn't about what a fantastic time he's had here but the job he's potentially got on his hands. Key players, such as Bego and Nzonzi look as though they're going to pastures new and good luck to them, if they do. Next season will be tough to get the same points but I'm confident that we can finish on more. I've got every faith in him.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 16, 2015 17:59:12 GMT
To me only Zonz is a key player and I'm sure the club are doing their best to keep him. Sometimes shit happens and the player wants away. Like you say it's up to the recruitment team to get an able replacement.
In Sparky we trust.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jun 16, 2015 18:00:17 GMT
Well when he was appointed it was with the intention of going in a new direction. The success of that direction is us losing players to bigger clubs.
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Post by smithypotter on Jun 16, 2015 18:00:22 GMT
I've always believed that Hughes' judgement for the most part has been spot on so I trust him to find the right players if Nzonzi and/or Bego do leave.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 16, 2015 18:02:49 GMT
This is the task of a manager of a successful club. As posted elswhere it will be interesting to see whether Sergi Roberto is back on the radar.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 16, 2015 18:04:04 GMT
Great manager but he needs backing from the board. I'd suggest if he has to sell Bego for 10m and NZonzi for 12-15m he should get 40m with all the Sky money were getting for rebuilding. If he doesn't questions need to be asked. If he's fully backed and the 2 go I'd go for something like
RB - Byram 4m CM - Roberto 6m, Fer 7m WING - Moses 6m and Kopo free
Job done
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Post by miggo on Jun 16, 2015 18:09:05 GMT
Great manager but he needs backing from the board. I'd suggest if he has to sell Bego for 10m and NZonzi for 12-15m he should get 40m with all the Sky money were getting for rebuilding. If he doesn't questions need to be asked. If he's fully backed and the 2 go I'd go for something like RB - Byram 4m CM - Roberto 6m, Fer 7m WING - Moses 6m and Kopo free Job done We will be lucky to get £10m each with only a year remaining. I'd say its more like £8m Sent from my C6603 using proboards
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Post by jeycov on Jun 16, 2015 19:23:29 GMT
Roberto is certainly good friends with Muniesa - would be a great signing
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Post by march4 on Jun 16, 2015 19:25:52 GMT
Defo tricky summer for LMH.
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 16, 2015 21:13:18 GMT
Great manager but he needs backing from the board. I'd suggest if he has to sell Bego for 10m and NZonzi for 12-15m he should get 40m with all the Sky money were getting for rebuilding. If he doesn't questions need to be asked. If he's fully backed and the 2 go I'd go for something like RB - Byram 4m CM - Roberto 6m, Fer 7m WING - Moses 6m and Kopo free Job done With a year left on their contracts, we won't get anything like that for either of them. It will be interesting, because if Hughes has had an Achilles heel in the past, it's been his inability to spend big money wisely. Let's hope he brings in players who improve us on the pitch aswell as continuing harmony in the dressing room.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 21:43:46 GMT
Defo tricky summer for LMH. Don't forget the suits upstairs. It's an equally tough summer for those aswell.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 22:00:22 GMT
Whatever happens come August we will have an exciting attacking flair footballing team to support, in LMH we have a good manager and he will keep us moving in the right direction.
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 16, 2015 23:18:21 GMT
Brilliant move by PC to get him.
Just hope MH can straighten N'Zonzi out and get him to tell his dad he wants to stay with us.
Just had an idea, maybe PC can find a job for N'Zonzi senior.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 17, 2015 12:12:17 GMT
How clubs deal with this is one of the challenges. Difficult decisions for Mark but it's his job to make them decisions.
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Post by ruts66 on Jun 17, 2015 12:34:21 GMT
We've entered new territory for Stoke but not for Hughes - he's the right calibre to see us ok provided the backing's there...
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jun 17, 2015 17:20:40 GMT
It seems that we're all pretty confident that Hughes can continue to drive the club forward. Hughes is happy here and it shows. In all honesty, I don't feel that Bego or Nzonzi are good enough for a top European side. If I was in their shoes, I would perhaps stay at Stoke, where they're pretty much guaranteed first team football. I cannot see either of them being happy to sit on the bench. They both seem quite happy here and are playing for a club that are on the up. The team spirit is fantastic , which is down to Hughes.
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Post by turtlefox on Jun 17, 2015 17:45:57 GMT
It seems that we're all pretty confident that Hughes can by PhraseFinder"> continue to drive the club forward. Hughes is happy here and it shows. In all honesty, I don't feel that Bego or Nzonzi are good enough for a top European side. If I was in their shoes, I would perhaps stay at Stoke, where they're pretty much guaranteed first team by PhraseFinder"> football. I cannot see either of them being happy to sit on the bench. They both seem quite happy here and are playing for a club that are on the up. The team spirit is fantastic , which is down to Hughes. Begovic could be but I think Nzonzi needs another season with us to really show the top sides how capable he is of controlling a game, if he wants the move that he thinks he deserves.
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Post by robstokie on Jun 17, 2015 19:01:23 GMT
It seems that we're all pretty confident that Hughes can by PhraseFinder"> continue to drive the club forward. Hughes is happy here and it shows. In all honesty, I don't feel that Bego or Nzonzi are good enough for a top European side. If I was in their shoes, I would perhaps stay at Stoke, where they're pretty much guaranteed first team by PhraseFinder"> football. I cannot see either of them being happy to sit on the bench. They both seem quite happy here and are playing for a club that are on the up. The team spirit is fantastic , which is down to Hughes. Begovic could be but I think Nzonzi needs another season with us to really show the top sides how capable he is of controlling a game, if he wants the move that he thinks he deserves. Plus, he would get guaranteed games, rather than potentially sitting on the bench week in, week out and getting the odd cup game here and there to establish himself at a bigger club. On top of that, that would allow us to take some time to identify an able replacement, and ease them into the picture over the course of the season with an eye on the season after, rather than taking a gamble and paying through the nose for someone who would be chucked straight into the deep end. If he stays for another season, everybody wins in my opinion - he plays well, he gets his move - we get him for another season, and we can ensure we have the right replacement ready to take over if he goes.
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