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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 1, 2015 7:45:39 GMT
The Sentinel's preview of tonight's game says that a win tonight would put us in only our second League Cup semifinal! Seeing that we've been in two finals (against Leicester and Chelsea) I think we can assume that we were also in the semifinals in those years.  Shocking journalism.EDIT: Needless to say they have now amended their original story. My proof reading invoice will be in the post!  |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Dec 1, 2015 8:29:14 GMT
Unfortunately I'm old enough to remember that first league cup final of ours in 1964 against Leicester.
After drawing 1-1 at the Vic we went to Filbert Street a week later only to lose 2-3 on the night and 3-4 on aggregate.
Their wasn't a lot of enthusiasm for this competition back in the day and a lot of the top clubs didn't bother to enter I recall feeling that they didn't need the extra games added to a 42 game league season.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 1, 2015 8:45:43 GMT
I didnt know we were in a League Cup final in 64!
Honestly thats the first Ive heard of it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2015 9:02:07 GMT
Well, it's easy to forget. Remember that football only really started in 1992 with the Premier League.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2015 9:23:41 GMT
Well, it's easy to forget. Remember that football only really started in 1992 with the Premier League. Even for people who were around long before that, this has always been the forgotten cup-final. Very rarely spoken of. |
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Post by bubbleblower on Dec 1, 2015 9:32:46 GMT
That's the first I've ever heard of it which I find strange, I will be quizzing my old man at the game tonight he's 73 so he could claim senility.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 1, 2015 9:33:19 GMT
Well, it's easy to forget. Remember that football only really started in 1992 with the Premier League. Surely it started in 2008  |
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Post by Bowyer83 on Dec 1, 2015 10:05:35 GMT
I didnt know we were in a League Cup final in 64! Honestly thats the first Ive heard of it. I've got to be honest same here. |
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Dec 1, 2015 10:16:08 GMT
Well, what with our many, many cup glories it's difficult to keep track sometimes.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 1, 2015 10:16:50 GMT
I didnt know we were in a League Cup final in 64! Honestly thats the first Ive heard of it. Well, if our local paper can't be bothered to remember it, then it is hardly surprising that our fans who were not around at the time, can't. Like Linx I can remember it. But, with it being a 2 leg final it didn't seem such a big deal - especially with the second leg being at Leicester so most of our fans were not there. The format of our 1972 win of a two legged semi and a final at Wembley is much better. Glad they have now got rid of replays though - as 1972 was an horrendous obstacle course which possibly cost us the FA Cup. |
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Post by fulagoals on Dec 1, 2015 11:24:03 GMT
No it doesn't, read it again, it says it's a competition that we've played in TWO semi finals previously (64) (72)?
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 1, 2015 11:27:58 GMT
The other day it said the last time we won away to Sunderland was in 1982.
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Post by markscfc72 on Dec 1, 2015 11:38:56 GMT
No it doesn't, read it again, it says it's a competition that we've played in TWO semi finals previously (64) (72)? Maybe they noticed there mistake and have done an edit? I would be a bit surprised to see John post this thread if he had not made certain he was right first . |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 1, 2015 11:44:37 GMT
No it doesn't, read it again, it says it's a competition that we've played in TWO semi finals previously (64) (72)? The sentinel have read this thread and amended their original story! So, I have now amended my original post. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2015 12:23:39 GMT
That's the first I've ever heard of it which I find strange, I will be quizzing my old man at the game tonight he's 73 so he could claim senility. When I heard that a few years ago I thought it was wrong, as prior to Man City in FA Cup we'd never lost at Wembley, however , it is right as back then the final was over 2 legs home and away and we lost 4-3 to Leicester on aggregate. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Football_League_Cup_Final |
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Post by Sfance on Dec 1, 2015 12:34:18 GMT
Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. So we'll probably lose again tonight.
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Dec 1, 2015 14:09:19 GMT
To be fair to the Sentinel, they only really started to give a shit about Stoke City in 2008. Before that, all they cared about was Stoke City related scandal and dragging our name through the shit.... And calling the soap dodgers "plucky Vale" !!
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Post by Gaz on Dec 1, 2015 14:40:15 GMT
I didnt know we were in a League Cup final in 64! Honestly thats the first Ive heard of it. This thread's like a glory hunters coming out party |
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Post by penkvillepotter on Dec 1, 2015 14:52:24 GMT
What's that? We won the League Cup in 1972? Jeez, I was 13 then and never knew that. The telegraph to Biddulph must have been down at the time.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 1, 2015 14:59:55 GMT
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 1, 2015 15:09:31 GMT
To be fair to the Sentinel, they only really started to give a shit about Stoke City in 2008. Before that, all they cared about was Stoke City related scandal and dragging our name through the shit.... And calling the soap dodgers "plucky Vale" !! I don't know how far back you go, but in the 60s and 70s the Sentinel was pretty good as far as Stoke were concerned. I used to like Peter Hewitt's reports and, in those days, that was my major source of news about the club. Certainly, for most away games, I'd have been buggered without the Sentinel until I was in my mid to late teens and started to go to a few. |
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Post by harryburrows on Dec 1, 2015 15:14:08 GMT
I didnt know we were in a League Cup final in 64! Honestly thats the first Ive heard of it. You must be one of the Johnny come latelys we hear about |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 1, 2015 15:15:00 GMT
Autoglass trophy is STILL the best and only trophy Stoke won during my lifetime.
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Dec 1, 2015 15:21:37 GMT
To be fair to the Sentinel, they only really started to give a shit about Stoke City in 2008. Before that, all they cared about was Stoke City related scandal and dragging our name through the shit.... And calling the soap dodgers "plucky Vale" !! I don't know how far back you go, but in the 60s and 70s the Sentinel was pretty good as far as Stoke were concerned. I used to like Peter Hewitt's reports and, in those days, that was my major source of news about the club. Certainly, for most away games, I'd have been buggered without the Sentinel until I was in my mid to late teens and started to go to a few. My debut season was 1991/92 and I quickly started to see a lot of bias from the Sent'nul towards the Vale. I picked up what seemed like negativity towards Stoke and maybe a direct intent to attack the club and it's fans with regularity. At least that's how I, and many fellow Stokies saw it... |
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Dec 1, 2015 15:30:50 GMT
To be fair to the Sentinel, they only really started to give a shit about Stoke City in 2008. Before that, all they cared about was Stoke City related scandal and dragging our name through the shit.... And calling the soap dodgers "plucky Vale" !! I don't know how far back you go, but in the 60s and 70s the Sentinel was pretty good as far as Stoke were concerned. I used to like Peter Hewitt's reports and, in those days, that was my major source of news about the club. Certainly, for most away games, I'd have been buggered without the Sentinel until I was in my mid to late teens and started to go to a few. I'm with Lakeland in the pro Sentinel view. As a kid, we used to wait for the Football Final, in those days a pink broadsheet, to drop onto the mat on a Saturday evening. Full match report, all 4 league tables and other news. Stoke were always in bold in the First Division table, with Vale and Crewe rattling around in Division 4.
Probably got it within a couple of hours of the final whistle, which puts even ChiefDelilah's sterling efforts to shame in the digital age.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Dec 1, 2015 15:31:59 GMT
To be fair to the Sentinel, they only really started to give a shit about Stoke City in 2008. Before that, all they cared about was Stoke City related scandal and dragging our name through the shit.... And calling the soap dodgers "plucky Vale" !! Unlike the national press, which was full of Stoke City stories when we were in Division Two. For all the Sentinel's faults, and there is many, they were our main source of news when the rest of the country couldn't tell you who our manager was. And they will be again if/when we return to being another jobbing, middle-of-the-road football league club. |
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Dec 1, 2015 15:50:16 GMT
To be fair to the Sentinel, they only really started to give a shit about Stoke City in 2008. Before that, all they cared about was Stoke City related scandal and dragging our name through the shit.... And calling the soap dodgers "plucky Vale" !! Unlike the national press, which was full of Stoke City stories when we were in Division Two. For all the Sentinel's faults, and there is many, they were our main source of news when the rest of the country couldn't tell you who our manager was. And they will be again if/when we return to being another jobbing, middle-of-the-road football league club. Of course, they were our only source of information at that time. But it's also true they went out of their way to fuel the fire about the Brit being a drain on the taxpayers of Stoke on Trent and that it wasn't the community stadium it was intended to be, despite many concerts, fireworks displays and functions being held there. Of course, since then Port Vale have twice been in administration and bummed out of thousands upon thousands of pounds owed to local businesses... I don't recall the Sentinel stirring that one up as much as the shit they stirred up with us. Maybe I'm just over defensive of Stoke City, actually, I definitely am. But I make no apology for that. |
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Dec 1, 2015 15:50:24 GMT
Autoglass trophy is STILL the best and only trophy Stoke won during my lifetime. Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.  |
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Dec 1, 2015 15:55:38 GMT
I don't know how far back you go, but in the 60s and 70s the Sentinel was pretty good as far as Stoke were concerned. I used to like Peter Hewitt's reports and, in those days, that was my major source of news about the club. Certainly, for most away games, I'd have been buggered without the Sentinel until I was in my mid to late teens and started to go to a few. I'm with Lakeland in the pro Sentinel view. As a kid, we used to wait for the Football Final, in those days a pink broadsheet, to drop onto the mat on a Saturday evening. Full match report, all 4 league tables and other news. Stoke were always in bold in the First Division table, with Vale and Crewe rattling around in Division 4.
Probably got it within a couple of hours of the final whistle, which puts even ChiefDelilah's sterling efforts to shame in the digital age.
Are you sure you are not confusing the Sentinel's Football Final with the Manchester Football Pink? As a boy I used to wait at my newsagent's for the Football Final to arrive rather than wait for the paperboy to deliver it and I don't remember it being a pink broadsheet. I am talking about the 1960s. Perhaps it went pink at a later date. |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Dec 1, 2015 15:58:28 GMT
Autoglass trophy is STILL the best and only trophy Stoke won during my lifetime. Oh dear. How sad. Never mind. Remember Inchy saying his winners medal meant more to him than anything else he'd won in football because it was with Stoke. Getting teary eyed all over again. Seriously, the Autoglass Trophy really WAS a big thing for us at the time, relative to where we were back then. |
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