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Post by bathstoke on Nov 29, 2015 20:29:21 GMT
When Everton scored in the 95th minute yesterday, some of their fans entered the field of play & something simalar happened when Bournmouth hosted Leicester. As we know this is a criminal offence!!! I would imagine that all of those identified will be convicted & receive banning orders. I was discussing the Bournmouth/Everton game with some mates last night & they told me about this incident :- www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11968932/Schoolboy-Charlie-Line-given-All-Black-star-Sonny-Bill-Williams-Rugby-World-Cup-medal-after-pitch-invasion-tackle.htmlI was out of the country when this happened, so didn't hear about it at the time. So you go to a V expensive fee paying school that your mother has boarded you up in & who has also funded you up to have a front seat at a backwards catch, bum sniffing, egg chasing(other cliches are available)&'you decide you are entitled to join in the celebrations of the winners , even though your team got knocked out in the opening round by a nation of 4 million, but hey, cash is king & he's got the front seat ticket which enables him to get on the pitch, even though there are a shed load of security there as a barrier. I mean, who does he think he is; Erica Roe
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Nov 29, 2015 20:46:58 GMT
When Everton scored in the 95th minute yesterday, some of their fans entered the field of play & something simalar happened when Bournmouth hosted Leicester. As we know this is a criminal offence!!! I would imagine that all of those identified will be convicted & receive banning orders. I was discussing the Bournmouth/Everton game with some mates last night & they told me about this incident :- www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11968932/Schoolboy-Charlie-Line-given-All-Black-star-Sonny-Bill-Williams-Rugby-World-Cup-medal-after-pitch-invasion-tackle.htmlI was out of the country when this happened, so didn't hear about it at the time. So you go to a V expensive fee paying school that your mother has boarded you up in & who has also funded you up to have a front seat at a backwards catch, bum sniffing, egg chasing(other cliches are available)&'you decide you are entitled to join in the celebrations of the winners , even though your team got knocked out in the opening round by a nation of 4 million, but hey, cash is king & he's got the front seat ticket which enables him to get on the pitch, even though there are a shed load of security there as a barrier. I mean, who does he think he is; Erica Roe I think you make a valid point about different standards. In a football context, I think there is a very big difference between a celebratory pitch invasion and an aggressive one where the intention is to attack a player or other fans. The latter should normally warrant a banning order but not the former IMHO.
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 29, 2015 21:22:50 GMT
When Everton scored in the 95th minute yesterday, some of their fans entered the field of play & something simalar happened when Bournmouth hosted Leicester. As we know this is a criminal offence!!! I would imagine that all of those identified will be convicted & receive banning orders. I was discussing the Bournmouth/Everton game with some mates last night & they told me about this incident :- www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11968932/Schoolboy-Charlie-Line-given-All-Black-star-Sonny-Bill-Williams-Rugby-World-Cup-medal-after-pitch-invasion-tackle.htmlI was out of the country when this happened, so didn't hear about it at the time. So you go to a V expensive fee paying school that your mother has boarded you up in & who has also funded you up to have a front seat at a backwards catch, bum sniffing, egg chasing(other cliches are available)&'you decide you are entitled to join in the celebrations of the winners , even though your team got knocked out in the opening round by a nation of 4 million, but hey, cash is king & he's got the front seat ticket which enables him to get on the pitch, even though there are a shed load of security there as a barrier. I mean, who does he think he is; Erica Roe I think you make a valid point about different standards. In a football context, I think there is a very big difference between a celebratory pitch invasion and an aggressive one where the intention is to attack a player or other fans. The latter should normally warrant a banning order but not the former IMHO. Hang on Malcolm, I know you put in the caveat of "IMHO", but are you saying that pitch invasions without intent are not illegal!?! Fetch me my running shoes, I'm going to make an Arsenal of myself; Again
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Nov 29, 2015 21:40:34 GMT
I think you make a valid point about different standards. In a football context, I think there is a very big difference between a celebratory pitch invasion and an aggressive one where the intention is to attack a player or other fans. The latter should normally warrant a banning order but not the former IMHO. Hang on Malcolm, I know you put in the caveat of "IMHO", but are you saying that pitch invasions without intent are not illegal!?! Fetch me my running shoes, I'm going to make an Arsenal of myself; Again No, they are illegal and I certainly wouldn't recommend them but that is not the same as saying that a banning order, which is minimum 3 years and are a pretty harsh penalty, is always necessary or appropriate. Depending of course on individual circumstances I would say that in most cases, for a celebratory incursion ( a better word than 'invasion' which in some cases over-dramatises what actually happened) a banning order is unnecessary and OTT. Cautions can be issued or the court can convict and impose a punishment without adding a banning order.
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Post by samdamule on Nov 29, 2015 21:44:39 GMT
He did get absolutely sausaged by a security guard though which was, in all fairness, quite unnecessary. The kid is obviously an annoying spoilt little cunt, but how was SBW meant to know that, all he saw was a little kid get dropped by security.
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Post by Linx on Nov 29, 2015 21:51:20 GMT
The pitch invasion by the Everton fans worked against them. The ref added on loads of time for the disruption, which gave Bournemouth time to score an equalizer. If they hadn't gone onto the pitch, he would have blown the whistle as soon as play was re-started. I can appreciate why they got so over-excited, it must have been one of those amazing mentals when you get a last minute winner, especially when you saw a 2-1 lead blown away only four minutes before.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 29, 2015 21:54:49 GMT
On a lighter note, I'm sure that the pitch invasion by the Everton fans caused the ref to add on another minute which gave Stanislas time to score Bournemouth's equaliser! Serve's 'em right! EDIT: I see LINX has beaten me to the punch!
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Post by bigcashprizes on Nov 29, 2015 21:59:53 GMT
I remember having a little run on at the corner of Boothen/Sentinel when we beat Millwall at the Brit at the end of the disaster season. Think Lightbourne scored. All good fun! Then Man City a fortnight later. Hughes out :-)
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 29, 2015 22:03:49 GMT
I remember having a little run on at the corner of Boothen/Sentinel when we beat Millwall at the Brit at the end of the disaster season. Think Lightbourne scored. All good fun! Then Man City a fortnight later. Hughes out :-) Which disaster season would that be, cause there have been so many...
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Post by Linx on Nov 29, 2015 22:12:42 GMT
On a lighter note, I'm sure that the pitch invasion by the Everton fans caused the ref to add on another minute which gave Stanislas time to score Bournemouth's equaliser! Serve's 'em right! EDIT: I see LINX has beaten me to the punch! For once, Lakeland.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 29, 2015 22:17:53 GMT
Let's knock every last ounce of passion out of the game eh? So a few fans ran on and joined in with Barkley and his teammates after scoring in the 95th minute for what they thought was the winner - big effing deal. What about when Steino scored that goal at Vale Park - cue unbridled joy and Stokies on the pitch celebrating with there hero. Cracking stuff.
I'm not saying it should be done all the time but sometimes you can't help yourself.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 30, 2015 1:33:35 GMT
The pitch invasion by the Everton fans worked against them. The ref added on loads of time for the disruption, which gave Bournemouth time to score an equalizer. If they hadn't gone onto the pitch, he would have blown the whistle as soon as play was re-started. I can appreciate why they got so over-excited, it must have been one of those amazing mentals when you get a last minute winner, especially when you saw a 2-1 lead blown away only four minutes before. Bet those fans who invaded are getting some right stick now from their more restrained fans, they did indeed contribute to their own downfall.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 1:43:52 GMT
When Everton scored in the 95th minute yesterday, some of their fans entered the field of play & something simalar happened when Bournmouth hosted Leicester. As we know this is a criminal offence!!! I would imagine that all of those identified will be convicted & receive banning orders. I was discussing the Bournmouth/Everton game with some mates last night & they told me about this incident :- www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11968932/Schoolboy-Charlie-Line-given-All-Black-star-Sonny-Bill-Williams-Rugby-World-Cup-medal-after-pitch-invasion-tackle.htmlI was out of the country when this happened, so didn't hear about it at the time. So you go to a V expensive fee paying school that your mother has boarded you up in & who has also funded you up to have a front seat at a backwards catch, bum sniffing, egg chasing(other cliches are available)&'you decide you are entitled to join in the celebrations of the winners , even though your team got knocked out in the opening round by a nation of 4 million, but hey, cash is king & he's got the front seat ticket which enables him to get on the pitch, even though there are a shed load of security there as a barrier. I mean, who does he think he is; Erica Roe Agree with you 100% here, and this is typical of Thatcherite Britain today, the sooner she is banished to the history books the better...
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Post by madnellie on Nov 30, 2015 2:02:03 GMT
I imagine if it was a normal teenage kid from a random secondary school in Stoke/Manchester/Liverpool/insert any town north of Watford here then the story would have been written up rather differenly, probably containing the words "chav" and "broken Britain".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 2:25:28 GMT
It's a shame you can't get an equaliser against Barnsley in the 97th minute with all that no man's land to run around in every week still makes my top 5 Stoke moments.
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Post by bigcashprizes on Nov 30, 2015 5:51:55 GMT
I remember having a little run on at the corner of Boothen/Sentinel when we beat Millwall at the Brit at the end of the disaster season. Think Lightbourne scored. All good fun! Then Man City a fortnight later. Hughes out :-) Which disaster season would that be, cause there have been so many... True! First at the brit
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 30, 2015 7:20:08 GMT
I remember having a little run on at the corner of Boothen/Sentinel when we beat Millwall at the Brit at the end of the disaster season. Think Lightbourne scored. All good fun! Then Man City a fortnight later. Hughes out :-) Are you getting mixed up with beating Portsmouth?
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Nov 30, 2015 8:21:16 GMT
As has been posted, banning orders for celebratory incursions my seem harsh. But I guess you can see where clubs are coming from in issuing them as it's impossible to predict what someone is going to do once on the pitch. You can't say "oh, it's OK they're just celebrating the goal. Let them crack on cus they mean no harm." If one of them snots an opposing player, what then ?
But then there's the obvious & immediate repercussions of this particular incursion, resulting in the added time & late goal.... How stupid would you feel being one of the people who ran on ?
It's not worth the aggro. Stay in your seat !!
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Post by bigcashprizes on Nov 30, 2015 8:56:26 GMT
I remember having a little run on at the corner of Boothen/Sentinel when we beat Millwall at the Brit at the end of the disaster season. Think Lightbourne scored. All good fun! Then Man City a fortnight later. Hughes out :-) Are you getting mixed up with beating Portsmouth? Yup! Hahaha just googled it. Pompey it was. Could've sworn it was Millwall, but they weren't even in the same division! Everything blends into one big game eventually :-) More googling has shown that Lightbourne scored a 90th minute winner against Millwall the following season. I may be thinking of that. Defo jumped around on the track and didn't get banned though. Celebratory pitch invasions are brilliant. Angry ones after losing to Bristol Rovers aren't. Think that was the one where some nobead thumped Lightbourne?
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 30, 2015 9:50:14 GMT
Are you getting mixed up with beating Portsmouth? Yup! Hahaha just googled it. Pompey it was. Could've sworn it was Millwall, but they weren't even in the same division! Everything blends into one big game eventually :-) More googling has shown that Lightbourne scored a 90th minute winner against Millwall the following season. I may be thinking of that. Defo jumped around on the track and didn't get banned though. Celebratory pitch invasions are brilliant. Angry ones after losing to Bristol Rovers aren't. Think that was the one where some nobead thumped Lightbourne? Lightbourne got belted yes. We lost 1-4 in the next home game v Burnley. Dark days.
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Post by Stokeontrent on Nov 30, 2015 10:06:08 GMT
Coventry away when lenny scored, its the excitment
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Post by bigcashprizes on Nov 30, 2015 10:18:52 GMT
Yup! Hahaha just googled it. Pompey it was. Could've sworn it was Millwall, but they weren't even in the same division! Everything blends into one big game eventually :-) More googling has shown that Lightbourne scored a 90th minute winner against Millwall the following season. I may be thinking of that. Defo jumped around on the track and didn't get banned though. Celebratory pitch invasions are brilliant. Angry ones after losing to Bristol Rovers aren't. Think that was the one where some nobead thumped Lightbourne? Lightbourne got belted yes. We lost 1-4 in the next home game v Burnley. Dark days. Was that when Ally Pickering scored that ridiculous volley? We were bloody awful weren't we! Dark days indeed mate
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 30, 2015 10:26:12 GMT
Lightbourne got belted yes. We lost 1-4 in the next home game v Burnley. Dark days. Was that when Ally Pickering scored that ridiculous volley? We were bloody awful weren't we! Dark days indeed mate Yes. After about 90 seconds.
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Post by keasie1863 on Nov 30, 2015 12:29:25 GMT
Pah,pitch invasions are nothing compared to the good old days.i remember Exeter away,cant remember the exact year,maybe 91/92.we came out of their main stand behind the dugouts,nicked a ball off the bench,and about 20 of us had a kick about on the pitch,by the start of the second half there must of been a 100 of us.epic.
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Post by thanksjon on Nov 30, 2015 16:19:24 GMT
Bring back pitch invasions(but could they leave a gate open for getting back).
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Post by dutchpeter72 on Nov 30, 2015 16:36:15 GMT
Pah,pitch invasions are nothing compared to the good old days.i remember Exeter away,cant remember the exact year,maybe 91/92.we came out of their main stand behind the dugouts,nicked a ball off the bench,and about 20 of us had a kick about on the pitch,by the start of the second half there must of been a 100 of us.epic. Don't remember that one! Though what time has done to my memory is another thing
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Post by bristolpotter on Nov 30, 2015 17:42:24 GMT
Bring them back, had some great ones at Bristol City, Brighton, Wigan etc, all in good fun. Can remember that at Exeter, was one of Balls last games in charge I think before he ended up there, was a big picture in the local Exeter news with the headline catch these yobs was more in jest than malice from memory unlike the pitch invasion at Reading same season or.year before.
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Post by hoekstramasterclass on Nov 30, 2015 19:00:32 GMT
Bit of common sense needed in our crazy world , three year ban is outrageous , ok if they celebrated then ran at the Bournmouth fans that's totally different , should 15000 Stokies have been banned when we got promoted ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 19:12:00 GMT
Grimsby home and away...
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Post by dexta on Nov 30, 2015 19:18:23 GMT
Wigan away
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