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Post by Linx on Nov 24, 2015 21:50:29 GMT
Our forgotten man. Not even on the bench these days. Will he be angling for a January move? He seemed to get a lot of game time in the pre-season games, then he disappeared almost as soon as the season started in earnest.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 21:52:58 GMT
Bloody hell is he still here.
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Post by Gods on Nov 24, 2015 21:55:36 GMT
Wow talk about gone but not forgotten Sidewell is forgotten but not gone  Reminds me who was that full back we signed as well? From Sunderland I think, kind of the same deal, experienced player who knows his way around the block but we never really wanted, on a decent wage, all very strange  |
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Post by Linx on Nov 24, 2015 22:05:51 GMT
Wow talk about gone but not forgotten Sidewell is forgotten but not gone Reminds me who was that full back we signed as well? From Sunderland I think, kind of the same deal, experienced player who knows his way around the block but we never really wanted, on a decent wage, all very strange Yeah, but Bardsley kind of made sense when we acquired him. He was seen as an upgrade on Wilko and a more secure fit than Geoff, who had been filling in as right back during Hughes' first season. His costly cock ups have let him down, though, and he comes in probably as third choice behind Johnson and Cameron. But Sidwell was always going to be up against stiff competition with Glen, Charlie and Nzonzi in midfield. Then when he had his chances last season, he gave away too many free kicks in dangerous areas, losing us the game on at least one occasion, I seem to recall. It looks like LMH was seeing who filled the Nzonzi gap best in pre-season and decided on Adam. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 22:12:14 GMT
Still shocked he never came good for us, he was honestly excellent for Fulham but somehow hardly looks a footballer in a Stoke shirt.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Nov 24, 2015 22:12:15 GMT
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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 24, 2015 22:12:22 GMT
Both made sense but well paid too. May be happy to be on Prem wages and we do need back up. Add Joselu to that.
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Post by Gods on Nov 24, 2015 22:15:00 GMT
Wow talk about gone but not forgotten Sidewell is forgotten but not gone Reminds me who was that full back we signed as well? From Sunderland I think, kind of the same deal, experienced player who knows his way around the block but we never really wanted, on a decent wage, all very strange Yeah, but Bardsley kind of made sense when we acquired him. He was seen as an upgrade on Wilko and a more secure fit than Geoff, who had been filling in as right back during Hughes' first season. His costly cock ups have let him down, though, and he comes in probably as third choice behind Johnson and Cameron. But Sidwell was always going to be up against stiff competition with Glen, Charlie and Nzonzi in midfield. Then when he had his chances last season, he gave away too many free kicks in dangerous areas, losing us the game on at least one occasion, I seem to recall. It looks like LMH was seeing who filled the Nzonzi gap best in pre-season and decided on Adam. Yes perhaps. I don't think we have an "away in January" option for either of them, we have them both to contracts end. No one will match the wages they are on at Stoke even if they were to leave on a free, so that's pretty much that, both are perfectly entitled to sit tight to contracts end and that is what I presume they would choose to do rather than take a pay cut. |
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Post by StokieNath on Nov 24, 2015 22:21:21 GMT
lovely bloke, but wank footballer
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 24, 2015 22:22:50 GMT
Contract runs out next summer so will be gone I imagine. Unless Michael Tonge is his agent.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2015 22:23:19 GMT
Always a strange signing. Never what we needed really. A loan back darn sarf for the rest of the season would probably suit everyone I guess?
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Nov 24, 2015 22:26:37 GMT
There was a post of a question and answer thing with Bojan and Cameron. One of them said that the most likely candidate for management was Steve Sidwell.
Can imagine him being a good man to have in training.. a quality sparring partner in the 11vs11. Shame he's never really had a chance to stretch his legs for us.
Interesting though that there can always be another twist around the corner.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 24, 2015 22:46:24 GMT
Until the academy starts beating fruit I'd rather the squad players were the likes of Sidwell and Bardsley rather than the likes of tonge, sengalise fringe players and Andrew Davies.
That's not a knock on tone but the club has evolved for the better the last 8 years and so the 25 has to too
We obviously can afford it so no problem
We are only a couple of injuries away from the likes of Bardsley Sidwell and Ireland getting a run of games.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2015 22:59:13 GMT
We don't need a squad of 25, 26 if you include Tex, fully fledged pros.
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Nov 25, 2015 2:31:44 GMT
Wow talk about gone but not forgotten Sidewell is forgotten but not gone Reminds me who was that full back we signed as well? From Sunderland I think, kind of the same deal, experienced player who knows his way around the block but we never really wanted, on a decent wage, all very strange Never really rated Sidwell since he arrived, and he's actually not that bad. It says a lot for the quality of our squad that he's been pushed out of the team. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Nov 25, 2015 2:53:06 GMT
Never had so many likes for a post. What I meant to say was: Thoth. May he be beneficent in his glances towards Sidwell. |
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 25, 2015 3:03:53 GMT
Great squad player for the cup and bench. Thought his passing in the cup was pretty good. He's injury cover.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 25, 2015 8:58:52 GMT
He seems like a thoroughly decent pro. He won't play much but when he does, he'll give his all. That said, he'll be gone come January I'd imagine. Sitting on the sidelines at his age won't be doing him any good at all.
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Post by bogeyman on Nov 25, 2015 9:09:21 GMT
Could be time for him to move on at the end of the season.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 25, 2015 9:13:56 GMT
His place should be taken by an up-and-coming youngster from the academy but the fact is they look as far away from the first team squad as any during Pulis' reign.
The fact we need to keep Sidwell as back-up just highlights the lack of youngsters coming through.
Pretty poor despite ploughing a lot of time and money into the set-up
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Post by metalhead on Nov 25, 2015 9:14:16 GMT
I feel for Sidwell. Experienced Pro who would stroll into Bournemouth or Norwich etc. He simply hasn't been good enough for us though. Shame, I thought he was a smart signing.
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Post by Gods on Nov 25, 2015 9:41:30 GMT
Could be time for him to move on at the end of the season. I think someone said his contract is up at the end of the season so I think it is fair to say he will be. I can't imagine we would sign up to more of the same and I think he could do a job at one of the many 'sleeping giants' in the Championship. |
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 25, 2015 10:37:13 GMT
I think posters are too ready to dismiss players like Sidwell. OK he is not in the team because there are better first choice(s) at present. But if we get a run of injuries like last season, or lose a bunch of defenders for a period like WHU last season,
or like Newcastle this season (10 men listed unavailable today), then we could be in dire need of Sidwell, Bardsley, Wilson, Wingie, etc. stepping in to fill the breach. When everyone is fit, then some of our main signings might even struggle to make the Cup side; that's the way it goes when we have a large squad.
MH presumably knew what he was getting when he signed him. He was undoubtedly one of Fulham's best players (poor team I know) and unfortunately for him he has not had an extended run, granted his own fault, to play himself into match sharpness.
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Post by nott1 on Nov 25, 2015 15:22:18 GMT
He'll be off to Leeds, Forest or some such club come January I'm sure!
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Nov 25, 2015 15:35:06 GMT
I think posters are too ready to dismiss players like Sidwell. OK he is not in the team because there are better first choice(s) at present. But if we get a run of injuries like last season, or lose a bunch of defenders for a period like WHU last season, or like Newcastle this season (10 men listed unavailable today), then we could be in dire need of Sidwell, Bardsley, Wilson, Wingie, etc. stepping in to fill the breach. When everyone is fit, then some of our main signings might even struggle to make the Cup side; that's the way it goes when we have a large squad. MH presumably knew what he was getting when he signed him. He was undoubtedly one of Fulham's best players (poor team I know) and unfortunately for him he has not had an extended run, granted his own fault, to play himself into match sharpness. Exactly!!! Bit like players similar to Michael Tonge in first year of Prem, we may not have used them, they may not be good enough for Starting 11 but they are good insurance policies. |
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Post by metalhead on Nov 25, 2015 15:49:56 GMT
I think posters are too ready to dismiss players like Sidwell. OK he is not in the team because there are better first choice(s) at present. But if we get a run of injuries like last season, or lose a bunch of defenders for a period like WHU last season, or like Newcastle this season (10 men listed unavailable today), then we could be in dire need of Sidwell, Bardsley, Wilson, Wingie, etc. stepping in to fill the breach. When everyone is fit, then some of our main signings might even struggle to make the Cup side; that's the way it goes when we have a large squad. MH presumably knew what he was getting when he signed him. He was undoubtedly one of Fulham's best players (poor team I know) and unfortunately for him he has not had an extended run, granted his own fault, to play himself into match sharpness. Exactly!!! Bit like players similar to Michael Tonge in first year of Prem, we may not have used them, they may not be good enough for Starting 11 but they are good insurance policies. But we already have better insurance policies? Ireland? Cameron? Afellay? |
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Post by muglump on Nov 25, 2015 15:55:54 GMT
Gone in January I reckon, would do someone an excellent job for someone, but he's several places down the order for us now
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Post by kustokie on Nov 25, 2015 16:01:18 GMT
Free transfer in the Summer unless they want to buy out his contract in January.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 16:08:35 GMT
Still shocked he never came good for us, he was honestly excellent for Fulham but somehow hardly looks a footballer in a Stoke shirt. I have to say I had completely forgotten this but now you mention it, I can remember Sidwell being one of Fulham's few bright sparks in their relegation campaign. There was a post of a question and answer thing with Bojan and Cameron. One of them said that the most likely candidate for management was Steve Sidwell. Can imagine him being a good man to have in training.. a quality sparring partner in the 11vs11. Shame he's never really had a chance to stretch his legs for us. Interesting though that there can always be another twist around the corner. Intersting, I mean it's clear Sidwell will be on some sort of lower-level backup wage but at the same time it's vitally important to have determined, hard-working experienced professionals in the squad no matter what their current status. If Sidwell is working his bollocks off despite being on the fringes then it sets a great example for the younger members of the squad. If you look at the increase in someone like Arnie's consistency and attitude then maybe that is partly down to having the likes of Sidwell around, in which case the relatively low wage he'll be receiving is justified through his influence leading to increased performances from some of the first teamers. |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Nov 25, 2015 16:10:02 GMT
Probably wasn't really needed when we signed him but a decent player that has just slipped behind too many others since he's been here. I don't think he's been particularly poor when he's played and he certainly isn't the 'shit player' that some have him down as. He's just too far down the pecking order now. He really hasn't done too much wrong here but has had very limited opportunities.
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