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Post by The Drunken Communist on Nov 24, 2015 11:10:31 GMT
The Turk's have shot down a Russian jet, showing whose side they're on. The big problem now is if Russia respond to this by attacking Turkey, do we (By we I mean NATO) side with Turkey as we should (An attack on one NATO member is an attack on us all apparently) and therefore also give our support to ISIS. Or do we tell Turkey to fuck off you terrorist supporting scumbags & boot them out of NATO (Which'd then nodoubt see the downfall of NATO & a whole new can of worms opening up)
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Post by Ayupshag on Nov 24, 2015 11:39:26 GMT
Fuck em off. Said on a thread last week we can no longer trust Muslim faith countries and got slated for it.
To all those that slated me, fuck you, I told you so
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Post by owenvadar on Nov 24, 2015 12:04:56 GMT
We should side with Russia and obliterate ISIS and anyone else that promotes the Islamification of mother Europe .
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Post by bringmesunshine on Nov 24, 2015 12:27:55 GMT
They might have shot the plane down because Putin thinks he can just do whatever he wants like fly through Turkish airspace, bring down passenger flights above the Ukraine and sail submarines off the coast of Scotland. The problem is knowhere near as simple as Turkey being pro IS. Would you honestly trust any of these countries leaders, they all have their own agenda's. The only people we can realy trust in this are the Yanks and the French and believe me it pains me to say that.
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Post by slother on Nov 24, 2015 12:32:17 GMT
They shot it down because it entered its airspace and didn't explain itself. Just like we would do. It doesn't mean they're joining IS ffs!
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Post by lordb on Nov 24, 2015 12:49:25 GMT
Turkey is not & has not in any way aligned itself with ISIS
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Post by lordb on Nov 24, 2015 12:56:55 GMT
Fuck em off. Said on a thread last week we can no longer trust Muslim faith countries and got slated for it. To all those that slated me, fuck you, I told you so Your opinion is that we can’t trust Muslim countries What’s your opinion on secular countries like Turkey? |
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Post by owenvadar on Nov 24, 2015 13:05:27 GMT
Fuck em off. Said on a thread last week we can no longer trust Muslim faith countries and got slated for it. To all those that slated me, fuck you, I told you so Your opinion is that we can’t trust Muslim countries What’s your opinion on secular countries like Turkey? Secular in name only they're hardly secular |
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Post by basingstokie on Nov 24, 2015 13:08:48 GMT
So because Turkey don't like Assad they are by default pro IS and will attack anyone threatening IS.
Seriously what is going on for Turkey to think IS are a reasonable organisation who deserve their support.
It's getting seriously messed up, the one thing we all agree on is that IS need to removed from the Earth
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Post by lordb on Nov 24, 2015 13:16:08 GMT
Your opinion is that we can’t trust Muslim countries What’s your opinion on secular countries like Turkey? Secular in name only they're hardly secular If Turkey ever becomes an ‘islamist’ state then the difference will be more than apparent. |
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Post by brilittle on Nov 24, 2015 13:23:13 GMT
We should side with Russia and obliterate ISIS and anyone else that promotes the Islamification of mother Europe . The Mother Land eh? Kind of reminds me of something from history does that kind of terminology. Also, just curious, but who else are you referring to when you say we should obliterate "anyone else that promotes the Islamification of Europe". See, i know from your previous comments that you class anybody who doesn't agree with you as pro Islam, so are you calling for all of those to be obliterated? Perhaps you think we should build some concentration camps in anticipation. |
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Post by owenvadar on Nov 24, 2015 13:24:17 GMT
Secular in name only they're hardly secular If Turkey ever becomes an ‘islamist’ state then the difference will be more than apparent. I'm not saying it's an Islamist state but it certainly isn't secular or neutral , it's population and it's Islamic identity make sure of that |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Nov 24, 2015 13:30:04 GMT
They might have shot the plane down because Putin thinks he can just do whatever he wants like fly through Turkish airspace, bring down passenger flights above the Ukraine and sail submarines off the coast of Scotland. The problem is knowhere near as simple as Turkey being pro IS. Would you honestly trust any of these countries leaders, they all have their own agenda's. The only people we can realy trust in this are the Yanks and the French and believe me it pains me to say that. Russia say the jet was in Syrian airspace. Russia didn't shoot any passenger jet. Russia have every right to be in International waters & airspace off our coast. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Nov 24, 2015 13:33:15 GMT
Turkey is not & has not in any way aligned itself with ISIS Yes you're right. Apart from funding ISIS, bombing the Kurds to stop them cutting off the ISIS supply line from Turkey, and now shooting down Russian jets who're fighting terrorist scum... Turkey has done nothing to align itself with ISIS. |
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Post by owenvadar on Nov 24, 2015 13:36:13 GMT
Turkey is not & has not in any way aligned itself with ISIS Yes you're right. Apart from funding ISIS, bombing the Kurds to stop them cutting off the ISIS supply line from Turkey, and now shooting down Russian jets who're fighting terrorist scum... Turkey has done nothing to align itself with ISIS. I feel sorry for the Kurds. |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Nov 24, 2015 13:40:34 GMT
We should side with Russia and obliterate ISIS and anyone else that promotes the Islamification of mother Europe . Russia is bombing the rebels who are fighting Assad, you know the president of Syria. Putin and Assad are Friends, as was shown when Assad visited Moscow in October, and Putin is helping Assad kill the rebels to shore up his government. The idea that Putin is actually focusing his attacks on IS is just utterly ridiculous, just look at the area the downed plane crashed in and ask yourself who’s territory it is because it aint anywhere close to IS territory. |
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Post by owenvadar on Nov 24, 2015 13:41:31 GMT
We should side with Russia and obliterate ISIS and anyone else that promotes the Islamification of mother Europe . Russia is bombing the rebels who are fighting Assad, you know the president of Syria. Putin and Assad are Friends, as was shown when Assad visited Moscow in October, and Putin is helping Assad kill the rebels to shore up his government. The idea that Putin is actually focusing his attacks on IS is just utterly ridiculous, just look at the area the downed plane crashed in and ask yourself who’s territory it is because it aint anywhere close to IS territory. I don't care about that mate as long as it results in isis corpses that's good enough for me |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Nov 24, 2015 13:42:23 GMT
They might have shot the plane down because Putin thinks he can just do whatever he wants like fly through Turkish airspace, bring down passenger flights above the Ukraine and sail submarines off the coast of Scotland. The problem is knowhere near as simple as Turkey being pro IS. Would you honestly trust any of these countries leaders, they all have their own agenda's. The only people we can realy trust in this are the Yanks and the French and believe me it pains me to say that. Russia say the jet was in Syrian airspace. Russia didn't shoot any passenger jet. Russia have every right to be in International waters & airspace off our coast. And you believe Putin, the last Bastian of honesty in politics. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Nov 24, 2015 13:45:49 GMT
We should side with Russia and obliterate ISIS and anyone else that promotes the Islamification of mother Europe . Russia is bombing the rebels who are fighting Assad, you know the president of Syria. Putin and Assad are Friends, as was shown when Assad visited Moscow in October, and Putin is helping Assad kill the rebels to shore up his government. The idea that Putin is actually focusing his attacks on IS is just utterly ridiculous, just look at the area the downed plane crashed in and ask yourself who’s territory it is because it aint anywhere close to IS territory. Russia, at the request of the Syrian Government, is legally helping the people of Syria to destroy all scumbag terrorists in their country. |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Nov 24, 2015 13:47:23 GMT
Russia is bombing the rebels who are fighting Assad, you know the president of Syria. Putin and Assad are Friends, as was shown when Assad visited Moscow in October, and Putin is helping Assad kill the rebels to shore up his government. The idea that Putin is actually focusing his attacks on IS is just utterly ridiculous, just look at the area the downed plane crashed in and ask yourself who’s territory it is because it aint anywhere close to IS territory. I don't care about that mate as long as it results in isis corpses that's good enough for me But its not, the only people who are actualy fighting IS are the rebles that Putin is bombing, they are fighting Assad at one end and IS at the other and WE along with the CIA are arming them. |
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Post by owenvadar on Nov 24, 2015 13:49:57 GMT
I don't care about that mate as long as it results in isis corpses that's good enough for me But its not, the only people who are actualy fighting IS are the rebles that Putin is bombing, they are fighting Assad at on end and IS at the other and WE along with the CIA are arming them. Depends on your perspective I suppose , I aren't arming anyone . The British government doesn't speak for or represent me , Cameron doesn't act on my behalf and nor does any other Tory or Labour politician. As long as isis and their sympathisers are dying I fully support the means. |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Nov 24, 2015 13:51:26 GMT
Russia is bombing the rebels who are fighting Assad, you know the president of Syria. Putin and Assad are Friends, as was shown when Assad visited Moscow in October, and Putin is helping Assad kill the rebels to shore up his government. The idea that Putin is actually focusing his attacks on IS is just utterly ridiculous, just look at the area the downed plane crashed in and ask yourself who’s territory it is because it aint anywhere close to IS territory. Russia, at the request of the Syrian Government, is legally helping the people of Syria to destroy all scumbag terrorists in their country. Yes they are, but its not IS they are destroying. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Nov 24, 2015 13:52:53 GMT
I don't care about that mate as long as it results in isis corpses that's good enough for me But its not, the only people who are actualy fighting IS are the rebles that Putin is bombing, they are fighting Assad at one end and IS at the other and WE along with the CIA are arming them. We have a great track record in arming loveable, friendly rebels. Remind me what happened to the last lot we armed? Or the lot before them? Or the lot before them... |
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 24, 2015 13:59:48 GMT
I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna say the "I" word. Oh the irony, Turkey shoots down a Russian plane, after giving them 10 warnings in 5mins to £@#& off or else, cause the Turks have been telling Russia for days to stop bombing ethnic Turks on their Syrian border & feel they have the legal right to protect it's people, just like Russia has been doing in Ukraine.
Oh it's getting foggy out there
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Post by owenvadar on Nov 24, 2015 14:00:59 GMT
I hope Russia bomb the Turks in retaliatory, what's fair is fair.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 24, 2015 14:01:48 GMT
They might have shot the plane down because Putin thinks he can just do whatever he wants like fly through Turkish airspace, bring down passenger flights above the Ukraine and sail submarines off the coast of Scotland. The problem is knowhere near as simple as Turkey being pro IS. Would you honestly trust any of these countries leaders, they all have their own agenda's. The only people we can realy trust in this are the Yanks and the French and believe me it pains me to say that. I wouldn't trust America and it's oldest ally France. Russia's Vladimir Putin says Turkey's downing of a Russian warplane is a "stab in the back by terrorists helpers." Turks are not in contact with ISIS? I guess they were just lucky they didn't have to fight their way our of ISIS territory when doing this! www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2965765/Tomb-raiders-Remains-Ottoman-progenitor-relocated-Syria-Turkish-soldiers-snatch-coffin-grip-Isis.html |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Nov 24, 2015 14:02:29 GMT
But its not, the only people who are actualy fighting IS are the rebles that Putin is bombing, they are fighting Assad at one end and IS at the other and WE along with the CIA are arming them. We have a great track record in arming loveable, friendly rebels. Remind me what happened to the last lot we armed? Or the lot before them? Or the lot before them... I never said I agreed with arming the rebels, I said Russia wasn’t attacking IS. |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Nov 24, 2015 14:05:59 GMT
I hope Russia bomb the Turks in retaliatory, what's fair is fair. Well then you’re an idiot because it will lead to WW3. Turkey is a member of NATO and NATO will have to respond to the aggression from Russia. What are you, 5? |
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Post by Northy on Nov 24, 2015 14:07:43 GMT
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Post by owenvadar on Nov 24, 2015 14:10:40 GMT
I hope Russia bomb the Turks in retaliatory, what's fair is fair. Well then you’re an idiot because it will lead to WW3. Turkey is a member of NATO and NATO will have to respond to the aggression from Russia. What are you, 5? No need for insults and abuse , I hope Russia bomb Turkey , certainly wouldn't lead to WWIII |
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