|
Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 21, 2015 14:14:13 GMT
Not on the bench today, is he worth persevering with after January given he isn't ours? Or do we cut our losses in January? Can we do that?
And this isn't writing him off or any of that bollocks but surely it's better to have a player in the squad who is both ours and useful to us?
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 14:14:18 GMT
Needs games.
|
|
|
Post by nutterpotter on Nov 21, 2015 14:16:06 GMT
Think we'll look to send him back in all honesty.
Hughes mentioned today we're looking at a couple of loan deals but need to get a few players off the books. Considering he's not getting much game time, he'll be an easy one to get rid of. Would also free up a loan spot.
|
|
|
Post by cozmick on Nov 21, 2015 14:17:33 GMT
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 21, 2015 14:17:54 GMT
Think we'll look to send him back in all honesty. Hughes mentioned today we're looking at a couple of loan deals but need to get a few players off the books. Considering he's not getting much game time, he'll be an easy one to get rid of. Would also free up a loan spot. I'd be gutted if we still want Jedinak now though and sent Van Ginkel. Massive backwards step. We need younger midfielders.
|
|
|
Post by muglump on Nov 21, 2015 14:18:10 GMT
Not on the bench today, is he worth persevering with after January given he isn't ours? Or do we cut our losses in January? Can we do that? And this isn't writing him off or any of that bollocks but surely it's better to have a player in the squad who is both ours and useful to us? Yep. An experienced centre half maybe to bring on if needed, or central mid?
|
|
|
Post by nott1 on Nov 21, 2015 14:18:23 GMT
Not been outstsnding has he.......get rid!
|
|
|
Post by march4 on Nov 21, 2015 14:19:25 GMT
Is the story about this Argentinian bloke joining us on loan via Chelsea relevant?
|
|
|
Post by nutterpotter on Nov 21, 2015 14:20:43 GMT
Think we'll look to send him back in all honesty. Hughes mentioned today we're looking at a couple of loan deals but need to get a few players off the books. Considering he's not getting much game time, he'll be an easy one to get rid of. Would also free up a loan spot. I'd be gutted if we still want Jedinak now though and sent Van Ginkel. Massive backwards step. We need younger midfielders. Completely agree. We need a young CM and young winger in Jan.
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 21, 2015 14:20:57 GMT
Is the story about this Argentinian bloke joining us on loan via Chelsea relevant? Hope not because we should have signed him in the summer! Another one in the eye for the pizza boys if it is.
|
|
|
Post by nott1 on Nov 21, 2015 14:21:13 GMT
Is the story about this Argentinian bloke joining us on loan via Chelsea relevant? Who dat?
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 14:21:26 GMT
Is the story about this Argentinian bloke joining us on loan via Chelsea relevant? No chance.
|
|
|
Post by nutterpotter on Nov 21, 2015 14:23:27 GMT
Is the story about this Argentinian bloke joining us on loan via Chelsea relevant? Who dat? Calleri
|
|
|
Post by march4 on Nov 21, 2015 14:25:25 GMT
It does seem as though VG has become surplus to requirements.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 14:27:15 GMT
He was getting better with every game, then was dropped for Adam. Even when Adam's looked questionable, he's still kept his place. Can't blame MVG if he wants to leave.
|
|
|
Post by crouchie on Nov 21, 2015 14:28:02 GMT
according to a tweet from chelsea alerts he wants to go back to chelsea
|
|
|
Post by march4 on Nov 21, 2015 14:29:45 GMT
He was getting better with every game, then was dropped for Adam. Even when Adam's looked questionable, he's still kept his place. Can't blame MVG if he wants to leave. I thought he looked ok and agree with you. There again I think Mama has been our best player for a generation
|
|
|
Post by JoeinOz on Nov 21, 2015 14:31:52 GMT
He was getting better with every game, then was dropped for Adam. Even when Adam's looked questionable, he's still kept his place. Can't blame MVG if he wants to leave. I thought he looked ok and agree with you. There again I think Mama has been our best player for a generation Mama better than Bojan or Arnoutavic?
|
|
|
Post by march4 on Nov 21, 2015 14:33:57 GMT
I thought he looked ok and agree with you. There again I think Mama has been our best player for a generation Mama better than Bojan or Arnoutavic? Unquestionably. Whoever has heard of the 'Bojan position' or the 'Arnie position'?
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 21, 2015 14:34:30 GMT
I thought he looked ok and agree with you. There again I think Mama has been our best player for a generation Mama better than Bojan or Arnoutavic? Or Tommy, Bego, Wilko, Huth, Shawcross, Higgi etc etc etc
|
|
|
Post by march4 on Nov 21, 2015 14:36:30 GMT
Mama better than Bojan or Arnoutavic? Or Tommy, Bego, Wilko, Huth, Shawcross, Higgi etc etc etc He could take them all on; 1 vs 20
|
|
|
Post by MilanStokie on Nov 21, 2015 15:55:06 GMT
To be fair, it hasn't worked out for him, not sure he works in our formation. Actually I am not sure we, he, or his club know what his best position is yet and until he works that out, he will continue with these sorts of spells in his career.
I am not sure we need a "young" CM though. We need someone who will come in and boss the centre of the pitch. Whether that player is 20 or 28 it doesn't matter, he is required.
|
|
|
Post by stokemanusa on Nov 21, 2015 15:57:55 GMT
Good passer but doesn't have the mettle needed to win the ball. I'd personally send him back and look for a new younger midfielder.
|
|
|
Post by trigger on Nov 21, 2015 17:23:43 GMT
Spends far to much time watching the game simply pass him by, he has no influence on the game whatsoever not the player we want or need.
|
|
|
Post by iglugluk on Nov 21, 2015 17:27:26 GMT
Seems to be waste of a loan slot so far tbh. Needs to develop more, I'd say, and tbh I think we need a player who can be of influence rather than one on work experience.
|
|
|
Post by werrington on Nov 21, 2015 17:29:57 GMT
Think we'll look to send him back in all honesty. Hughes mentioned today we're looking at a couple of loan deals but need to get a few players off the books. Considering he's not getting much game time, he'll be an easy one to get rid of. Would also free up a loan spot. We could only send him back if all 3 parties agree to it Why would we anyway or is he another one being written off ?
|
|
|
Post by roylandstoke on Nov 21, 2015 17:32:42 GMT
We have looked much better with Adam playing alongside Whelan.
That Charlie Adam can look better, in a role that he hasn't really played throughout his career, than MVG says alot for how far away MVG is from being the player we need.
He may come good eventually, but he is not on the bench or in the team because he has not been good enough.
|
|
|
Post by wearepremierleague on Nov 21, 2015 17:37:14 GMT
Won 0 games with him, Virtually every one without him. He offers absolutely nothing to the team and is one of the main reasons we started the season so shit
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 17:43:26 GMT
If Whelan or Adam get injured or lose form he'll be back in.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 22:58:29 GMT
What's the craic with him?
|
|