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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 21, 2015 9:13:23 GMT
A little snippet from todays paper! Where is the value in the Premier League Relegation Battle? I'm intrigued by Stoke at 16/1. A 40% shot ratio is nothing to shout about and Mark Hughes' managerial approach is not exactly what you'd call hands-on. If they get themselves into a rot during the winter months, I'm not convinced they'd have the resolve to drag themselves out of trouble. It's this fella. Quite a respected journo! twitter.com/ratings_mike
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 21, 2015 9:17:08 GMT
Sounds like a Gooner
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Post by hotterpotter on Nov 21, 2015 9:34:12 GMT
I think he's confusing Mark Hughes with Simon Cowell.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 21, 2015 9:46:56 GMT
A little snippet from todays paper! Where is the value in the Premier League Relegation Battle? I'm intrigued by Stoke at 16/1. A 40% shot ratio is nothing to shout about and Mark Hughes' managerial approach is not exactly what you'd call hands-on. If they get themselves into a rot during the winter months, I'm not convinced they'd have the resolve to drag themselves out of trouble. It's this fella. Quite a respected journo! twitter.com/ratings_mikeRESOLVE That one word pretty much defines our premiership tenure under both mark and tone. What an idiot
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 21, 2015 9:51:42 GMT
A little snippet from todays paper! Where is the value in the Premier League Relegation Battle? I'm intrigued by Stoke at 16/1. A 40% shot ratio is nothing to shout about and Mark Hughes' managerial approach is not exactly what you'd call hands-on. If they get themselves into a rot during the winter months, I'm not convinced they'd have the resolve to drag themselves out of trouble. It's this fella. Quite a respected journo! twitter.com/ratings_mikeThe man who put the twit in Twitter.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 21, 2015 10:19:14 GMT
It's not actually the worst value is the point any of the bottom half can go on a bad run four defeats for us which would not be unthinkable in out next 4 would make it much trickier and him close to the mark and we wouldn't be 16-1 then.
Before the abuse starts in not saying it's going to happen just the point on Value isn't that far wide of the mark .
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 21, 2015 10:26:50 GMT
A little snippet from todays paper! Where is the value in the Premier League Relegation Battle? I'm intrigued by Stoke at 16/1. A 40% shot ratio is nothing to shout about and Mark Hughes' managerial approach is not exactly what you'd call hands-on. If they get themselves into a rot during the winter months, I'm not convinced they'd have the resolve to drag themselves out of trouble. It's this fella. Quite a respected journo! twitter.com/ratings_mikeMore of a journalist than a tipster if it's the same bloke that I used to converse with on the Betfair forum(back in the day when people tried to help each other). Tried his hand at tipping with Sporting Life few years ago but think he only lasted a season due to poor results. Nice bloke despite being a Man Citeh fan! Not seen the article but surprised Swansea at 16/1 wasn't mentioned. I first posted on the Oatcake after he emailed me telling me we were signing Kevin Hurlock.
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Post by muglump on Nov 21, 2015 10:32:05 GMT
A little snippet from todays paper! Where is the value in the Premier League Relegation Battle? I'm intrigued by Stoke at 16/1. A 40% shot ratio is nothing to shout about and Mark Hughes' managerial approach is not exactly what you'd call hands-on. If they get themselves into a rot during the winter months, I'm not convinced they'd have the resolve to drag themselves out of trouble. It's this fella. Quite a respected journo! twitter.com/ratings_mikeJesus this guy knows less about football than I do!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 21, 2015 10:41:19 GMT
A little snippet from todays paper! Where is the value in the Premier League Relegation Battle? I'm intrigued by Stoke at 16/1. A 40% shot ratio is nothing to shout about and Mark Hughes' managerial approach is not exactly what you'd call hands-on. If they get themselves into a rot during the winter months, I'm not convinced they'd have the resolve to drag themselves out of trouble. It's this fella. Quite a respected journo! twitter.com/ratings_mikeMore of a journalist than a tipster if it's the same bloke that I used to converse with on the Betfair forum(back in the day when people tried to help each other). Tried his hand at tipping with Sporting Life few years ago but think he only lasted a season due to poor results. Nice bloke despite being a Man Citeh fan! Not seen the article but surprised Swansea at 16/1 wasn't mentioned. I first posted on the Oatcake after he emailed me telling me we were signing Kevin Hurlock. Mike Bowers (Betfair odds compiler) tipped Swansea @ 16s in the same column, stoker.
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 21, 2015 10:46:31 GMT
I think he's confusing Mark Hughes with Simon Cowell. Why, Does he go down...
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Post by liamo on Nov 21, 2015 11:01:53 GMT
Looks like a guy who knows bugger all about football just looking at the statistics, how anyone can tip us for relegation when there's West Brom, Sunderland, Aston Villa, Bournemouth and Swansea all with bigger issues than us is beyond me and that's looking at the very worst case scenario, we're looking up, not down
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 21, 2015 11:04:34 GMT
More of a journalist than a tipster if it's the same bloke that I used to converse with on the Betfair forum(back in the day when people tried to help each other). Tried his hand at tipping with Sporting Life few years ago but think he only lasted a season due to poor results. Nice bloke despite being a Man Citeh fan! Not seen the article but surprised Swansea at 16/1 wasn't mentioned. I first posted on the Oatcake after he emailed me telling me we were signing Kevin Hurlock. Mike Bowers (Betfair odds compiler) tipped Swansea @ 16s in the same column, stoker. Cheers Sheikh,my faith in tipsters is restored! Remember reading an interesting stat re Swansea (think it was in R.Post pre season pull out) that although they finished 8th last season,historical trends suggested they should have finished 16th. 16/1 is too big.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Nov 21, 2015 11:08:42 GMT
A little snippet from todays paper! Where is the value in the Premier League Relegation Battle? I'm intrigued by Stoke at 16/1. A 40% shot ratio is nothing to shout about and Mark Hughes' managerial approach is not exactly what you'd call hands-on. If they get themselves into a rot during the winter months, I'm not convinced they'd have the resolve to drag themselves out of trouble. It's this fella. Quite a respected journo! twitter.com/ratings_mikeI have absolutely no doubt to where your respectometer would have landed had he been discussing our former manager. None at all
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 11:10:28 GMT
Peter Coates is already saying that we are going to strengthen in certain positions in the January transfer window. It seems to me that whatever weaknesses there are in the squad (and they know best), will be solved. No chance of relegation IMHO. Up the mighty Potters!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 21, 2015 11:18:16 GMT
A little snippet from todays paper! Where is the value in the Premier League Relegation Battle? I'm intrigued by Stoke at 16/1. A 40% shot ratio is nothing to shout about and Mark Hughes' managerial approach is not exactly what you'd call hands-on. If they get themselves into a rot during the winter months, I'm not convinced they'd have the resolve to drag themselves out of trouble. It's this fella. Quite a respected journo! twitter.com/ratings_mikeI have absolutely no doubt to where your respectometer would have landed had he been discussing our former manager. None at all I posted it because I find it preposterous but you're still so obsessed with Pulis that you can't help yourself. He is a respected stats man in punting circles. I think to the average observer that 16s warrants a second look. We've been beaten at home by Watford and West Brom and haven't really torn up any trees but for a man who lives and breathes football I think he's talking shit. I think we could pick up 5 injuries and still pick up the required 21 or 22 points to stay up. Not a big price but Bournemouth at 5/6 warrant a selling your house bet for me.
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Post by that's our Ric on Nov 21, 2015 11:23:29 GMT
It's not actually the worst value is the point any of the bottom half can go on a bad run four defeats for us which would not be unthinkable in out next 4 would make it much trickier and him close to the mark and we wouldn't be 16-1 then. Before the abuse starts in not saying it's going to happen just the point on Value isn't that far wide of the mark . I'm shocked to see you posting on this !! Fingers crossed eh
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 21, 2015 11:55:03 GMT
I don't think 16's represents value at all.
25's would be value.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 21, 2015 12:00:33 GMT
It's not actually the worst value is the point any of the bottom half can go on a bad run four defeats for us which would not be unthinkable in out next 4 would make it much trickier and him close to the mark and we wouldn't be 16-1 then. Before the abuse starts in not saying it's going to happen just the point on Value isn't that far wide of the mark . 'You're not saying it's going to happen' Why? It's not stopped you previously. The crocodile got your tongue?
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Post by innocentbystander on Nov 21, 2015 12:21:38 GMT
FFS. The Racing Post DEPENDS on ads from bookmakers, and bookmakers depend on befuddled half-wits spunking their dosh on ludicrous dreams. These people DON'T WANT YOU TO WIN.
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Post by Linx on Nov 21, 2015 12:42:20 GMT
I'm not normally riled by idiotic journo comments but that one is so idiotic and uninformed it's laughable.
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 21, 2015 12:56:38 GMT
Looking at Bournemouth, Villa, Norwich and Sunderland (if they don't strengthen in January) be amazed if you need much more than 30pts to stay up this season so i'll pass on that 16-1 tip !
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 21, 2015 13:12:09 GMT
Laughing
Me and the croc on the way to St Mary's on the train now . See you their .
S
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Post by march4 on Nov 21, 2015 13:28:00 GMT
He seems to have forgotten that LMH teams just get better and better as the season goes on.
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Post by Gods on Nov 21, 2015 13:31:36 GMT
He is not actually saying he thinks we will go down.
He is looking for bets with "value" in them as the Racing Post does.
16/1 suggests we have a 6.25% chance of going down.
If your hunch or your formula tells you Stoke have say an 8% chance of going down then there is "value" in that bet.
That's how I read it anyway.
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Nov 21, 2015 13:33:00 GMT
This chap is really desperate for an interesting bit of journalism to get readers interested. Problem is, he's confused interesting with completely made up gobbledygook. I won't bother asking him for a prediction on tonights lotto numbers.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 21, 2015 13:33:39 GMT
He is not actually saying he thinks we will go down. He is looking for bets with "value" in them as the Racing Post does. 16/1 suggests we have a 6.25% chance of going down. If your hunch or your formula tells you Stoke have say an 8% chance of going down then there is "value" in that bet. That's how I read it anyway. Yeah but he then try's to justify where that value actually stems from and that bit appears to be rubbish.
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Nov 21, 2015 13:35:48 GMT
He is not actually saying he thinks we will go down. He is looking for bets with "value" in them as the Racing Post does. 16/1 suggests we have a 6.25% chance of going down. If your hunch or your formula tells you Stoke have say an 8% chance of going down then there is "value" in that bet. That's how I read it anyway. I get that bit mate. It's his suggestion that we don't have the resolve for a relegation battle which I think is codswallop, completely unfounded information IMO.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 21, 2015 13:37:47 GMT
He is not actually saying he thinks we will go down. He is looking for bets with "value" in them as the Racing Post does. 16/1 suggests we have a 6.25% chance of going down. If your hunch or your formula tells you Stoke have say an 8% chance of going down then there is "value" in that bet. That's how I read it anyway. Yeah but he then try's to justify where that value actually stems from and that bit appears to be rubbish. Is that paragraph you've put on here all he wrote.If not,any chance of putting the full article up?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 21, 2015 13:41:11 GMT
Yeah but he then try's to justify where that value actually stems from and that bit appears to be rubbish. Is that paragraph you've put on here all he wrote.If not,any chance of putting the full article up? No mate that was it. It was the talking heads bit where they ask them a series of questions. One said Swansea, three said Norwich and he said the above. His other tips were; Best Bet for weekend - Walsall Most vulnerable Fav - Millwall View on tonights big game - Man City by a goal El Clasico - Real Madrid Bet for midweek - Draw Zenit V Valencia
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 21, 2015 13:44:10 GMT
Is that paragraph you've put on here all he wrote.If not,any chance of putting the full article up? No mate that was it. It was the talking heads bit where they ask them a series of questions. One said Swansea, three said Norwich and he said the above. His other tips were; Best Bet for weekend - Walsall Most vulnerable Fav - Millwall View on tonights big game - Man City by a goal El Clasico - Real Madrid Bet for midweek - Draw Zenit V Valencia Ok,no worries,thought it might have been that half time team talk that they do,but on second thoughts it's a bit early for that.
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