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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 13, 2015 21:24:54 GMT
Chatted for ages with Lucas Neil tonight and got some really interesting snippets' about mark Hughes.
Lucas couldn't speak highly enough of him, said he's the best manager he's played for and that if he hadn't gone to man City he'd have been manure manager by now. Said Bowen and Eddie were great coaches and training was always superb. Also said he was the fittest he'd ever been during their reign when I asked about training methods.
Of more interest were those relating to his time with millwall, their games v Stoke and his memory of their 9 man 2-0 victory down at the new den back in 1998.
He remembers targeting several very poor stoke players, David Oldfield being one and Brian small being the other. "no legs, no heart". Summed it up perfectly.
Other interesting comments were about England players not being bothered about playing for their country, fabricating injuries so as not to play and seeing playing for a top premier league club, rather than their country as the pinnacle of a career.
It would be remiss of me to name names but it was very illuminating and much as I'd suspected for many years.
He also agreed with me that shawcross should be a regular England squad member and that comment was made before he knew I was a stoke fan.
Seen him loads and never been arsed to speak to him but he was a thoroughly decent bloke and seemed to love the game and his own country.
He also said some funny things about black boots and the day he had to wear flashy coloured boots.
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 13, 2015 21:32:59 GMT
Bet he was bored to tears
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Post by salopstick on Nov 13, 2015 21:34:50 GMT
Please be remiss
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Post by Beardy200 on Nov 13, 2015 21:38:36 GMT
It will be a temporary thing as he had no problem naming Oldfield and Small. ;) |
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Post by Gordon Marshall on Nov 13, 2015 21:39:22 GMT
David oldfield , got to be the slowest player ever to play for us
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 13, 2015 21:42:25 GMT
It will be a temporary thing as he had no problem naming Oldfield and Small.  Like anyone would be bothered about those two? He would have been a very young player in those days. I was amazed he could remember the game and even more amazed he could recall players his teammates were instructed to target. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 13, 2015 21:42:53 GMT
Chatted for ages with Lucas Neil tonight and got some really interesting snippets' about mark Hughes. Lucas couldn't speak highly enough of him, said he's the best manager he's played for and that if he hadn't gone to man City he'd have been manure manager by now. Said Bowen and Eddie were great coaches and training was always superb. Also said he was the fittest he'd ever been during their reign when I asked about training methods. Of more interest were those relating to his time with millwall, their games v Stoke and his memory of their 9 man 2-0 victory down at the new den back in 1998. He remembers targeting several very poor stoke players, David Oldfield being one and Brian small being the other. "no legs, no heart". Summed it up perfectly. Other interesting comments were about England players not being bothered about playing for their country, fabricating injuries so as not to play and seeing playing for a top premier league club, rather than their country as the pinnacle of a career. It would be remiss of me to name names but it was very illuminating and much as I'd suspected for many years. He also agreed with me that shawcross should be a regular England squad member and that comment was made before he knew I was a stoke fan. Seen him loads and never been arsed to speak to him but he was a thoroughly decent bloke and seemed to love the game and his own country. He also said some funny things about black boots and the day he had to wear flashy coloured boots. That day at Milwall was dark. We've had some bad managers haven't we. Fuck off Brian Little. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 21:44:00 GMT
Proper filthy bastard. Brilliant.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 13, 2015 21:47:19 GMT
Chatted for ages with Lucas Neil tonight and got some really interesting snippets' about mark Hughes. Lucas couldn't speak highly enough of him, said he's the best manager he's played for and that if he hadn't gone to man City he'd have been manure manager by now. Said Bowen and Eddie were great coaches and training was always superb. Also said he was the fittest he'd ever been during their reign when I asked about training methods. Of more interest were those relating to his time with millwall, their games v Stoke and his memory of their 9 man 2-0 victory down at the new den back in 1998. He remembers targeting several very poor stoke players, David Oldfield being one and Brian small being the other. "no legs, no heart". Summed it up perfectly. Other interesting comments were about England players not being bothered about playing for their country, fabricating injuries so as not to play and seeing playing for a top premier league club, rather than their country as the pinnacle of a career. It would be remiss of me to name names but it was very illuminating and much as I'd suspected for many years. He also agreed with me that shawcross should be a regular England squad member and that comment was made before he knew I was a stoke fan. Seen him loads and never been arsed to speak to him but he was a thoroughly decent bloke and seemed to love the game and his own country. He also said some funny things about black boots and the day he had to wear flashy coloured boots. That day at Milwall was dark. We've had some bad managers haven't we. Fuck off Brian Little. Lowest moment of mine and many others stoke supporting life I suspect. Funnily enough, as we celebrated promotion on the pitch v Leicester some bloke whose face I know despite never having spoken to him, tapped me on the shoulder, hugged me and screamed "this is for millwall away with 9 men men. This is for fucking millwall" :-) |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 13, 2015 22:07:29 GMT
That day at Milwall was dark. We've had some bad managers haven't we. Fuck off Brian Little. Lowest moment of mine and many others stoke supporting life I suspect. Funnily enough, as we celebrated promotion on the pitch v Leicester some bloke whose face I know despite never having spoken to him, tapped me on the shoulder, hugged me and screamed "this is for millwall away with 9 men men. This is for fucking millwall" :-) Our support base was way more cynical in those days and we moan about some reactions these days yet some fans clapped them off that day. It ended in a row. |
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Post by crowey on Nov 13, 2015 22:11:39 GMT
Wasn't David Oldfield an Aussie too?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 13, 2015 22:13:24 GMT
Lucas Neill would have done well in a pulis team.
Re; the dark days, surely 4-1 defeat against Bristol Rovers was the low point?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 22:17:16 GMT
David oldfield , got to be the slowest player ever to play for us Frode Kippe?. |
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Post by padders01 on Nov 13, 2015 22:24:01 GMT
David oldfield , got to be the slowest player ever to play for us Frode Kippe?. Paul Stewart??? |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 13, 2015 22:27:21 GMT
Lowest moment of mine and many others stoke supporting life I suspect. Funnily enough, as we celebrated promotion on the pitch v Leicester some bloke whose face I know despite never having spoken to him, tapped me on the shoulder, hugged me and screamed "this is for millwall away with 9 men men. This is for fucking millwall" :-) Our support base was way more cynical in those days and we moan about some reactions these days yet some fans clapped them off that day. It ended in a row. I was one of those rowing with the happy clappers that day :-) |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 13, 2015 22:28:45 GMT
Lucas Neill would have done well in a pulis team. Re; the dark days, surely 4-1 defeat against Bristol Rovers was the low point? Losing 2-0 to 9 man millwall was worse, not least for the fact that even with 9, it could and should have been 6 or 7. |
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Post by daviddunn on Nov 13, 2015 23:20:18 GMT
Paul Stewart and Neville Southall slowest players I've seen in a Stoke shirt
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Post by stokefc on Nov 13, 2015 23:42:50 GMT
Lucas Neill would have done well in a pulis team. Re; the dark days, surely 4-1 defeat against Bristol Rovers was the low point? Losing 2-0 to 9 man millwall was worse, not least for the fact that even with 9, it could and should have been 6 or 7. I didn't go that match, must of been horrific, my personnel low was the Wigan match a mate of mine was hanging over the dugout telling bally to do the right thing. Another low was Oxford at home mid week where I think but I'm not sure a bloke called Mark Stein scored the winner in a 1-0 defeat I left the ground in tears knowing we were virtually relegated which was confirmed at Newcastle on the Saturday. where I was nearly arrested for foul and abusive language The only other time I had tears was the England Germany semi |
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Post by njkk on Nov 14, 2015 0:47:55 GMT
Wasn't that Millwall game when Stoke fans were banned from attending, I'm sure there was a beam-back and watched the whole horror unfold in delilah's?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 14, 2015 0:59:06 GMT
Wasn't that Millwall game when Stoke fans were banned from attending, I'm sure there was a beam-back and watched the whole horror unfold in delilah's? It definitely wasn't. I wish it was but sadly I was at the game to watch the horror show unfold. We only went to the game because we signed lee Collins on the Friday before the game. |
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Post by njkk on Nov 14, 2015 1:05:52 GMT
Wasn't that Millwall game when Stoke fans were banned from attending, I'm sure there was a beam-back and watched the whole horror unfold in delilah's? It definitely wasn't. I wish it was but sadly I was at the game to watch the horror show unfold. We only went to the game because we signed lee Collins on the Friday before the game. Did the Stokies banned from Millwall game happen in another season or is it me dreaming things again? sure Millwall were banned from the Brit so they took retrospective action and banned us? Regards Forgetful of Fenton  |
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Post by njkk on Nov 14, 2015 1:09:02 GMT
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Post by 1863scfc1863 on Nov 14, 2015 5:17:25 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 14, 2015 9:12:53 GMT
It definitely wasn't. I wish it was but sadly I was at the game to watch the horror show unfold. We only went to the game because we signed lee Collins on the Friday before the game. Did the Stokies banned from Millwall game happen in another season or is it me dreaming things again? sure Millwall were banned from the Brit so they took retrospective action and banned us? Regards Forgetful of Fenton It was a few seasons later that game. Lost 3-0 as I remember. I watched the game in one of the suites at the Brit |
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Post by metalhead on Nov 14, 2015 10:24:33 GMT
Lucas Neill would have done well in a pulis team. Re; the dark days, surely 4-1 defeat against Bristol Rovers was the low point? Birmingham at home 7-0 when a past his best Paul Furlong took us to pieces. Those suggesting slow, immobile footballers..... Steven Tweed fuck me. It was like watching someone with a bad back shift a wardrobe. |
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Post by Northy on Nov 14, 2015 14:59:54 GMT
The names you won't name, can we do a davesviews game ?
Midfielder from scouseland
Midfielder from London some say is fat
Striker who looks like a CG film character who is green ?
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Nov 14, 2015 15:08:04 GMT
David Oldfield, Paul Stewart, Lethal Keith Scott, Gerry McMahon & Gordon Marshall... To name but a few of those we could've managed without back in the day !!
How far we've come (in some fans' opinions) since then.
Gerry McMahon was a postie last I heard !!
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Nov 14, 2015 15:09:46 GMT
David Oldfield, Paul Stewart, Lethal Keith Scott, Gerry McMahon & Gordon Marshall... To name but a few of those we could've managed without back in the dark days!!
How far we've come (in some fans' opinions) since then.
Gerry McMahon was a postie last I heard !!
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 14, 2015 16:34:44 GMT
Lucas Neill would have done well in a pulis team. Re; the dark days, surely 4-1 defeat against Bristol Rovers was the low point? Birmingham at home 7-0 when a past his best Paul Furlong took us to pieces. Those suggesting slow, immobile footballers..... Steven Tweed fuck me. It was like watching someone with a bad back shift a wardrobe. Tweed gets a pass for his goalkeeping against the Vale though, my Vale mate still moans about it to this day. |
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Post by LDE76 on Nov 14, 2015 16:41:51 GMT
Gerry McMahon was a postie last I heard !! I wonder if he shithouses out of challenges with Yorkshire terriers and Pomeranians? |
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