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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 22:19:57 GMT
How is it a waste of a sub? Subs are there to be used. Adam has proven he can play 120 minutes no problem. You start your best 11 then make changes as you see suitable. Charlie Adam was superb tonight. What did he do? Are you seriously taking the piss?? What did he do passing superb as usual Tackling brilliant Interceptions brilliant Covering every blade of grass on the pitch And go and re watch how many free kicks he wins! Not just tonight but I'm games he plays. When he's under pressure and in a tight situation he puts his body across the ball and gets pushed over. Very very clever which always results in him winning a free kick, but I don't expect you to notice little things like that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 22:20:55 GMT
You have got be some special kind of idiot to start picking holes in a Stoke players game when we have just beaten the English champions for the second game on the bounce.
Step forward Mr Oatcake,you are fast becoming a bigger cunt than Benjamin Biscuit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 7, 2015 22:21:16 GMT
I thought it was probably his poorest performance this season. I'm cutting him some slack because of the opposition and the result, but he just let Chelsea walk straight through him time after time. Given how popular it looks like that opinion will be, I think I shall keep my observation about Cameron getting turned around by Hazard too easily, too often to myself... I liked the Cameron sub at the time but he didn't help in the way I expected. He too was in the back seat.
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Nov 7, 2015 22:22:03 GMT
Shock, someone has dug... And dug... And dug... And found a bit of something to moan about. Do you want to see Stoke win or do you just want to look for negatives ?? Oh for the good old binary days, eh !!??
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Post by thehoof on Nov 7, 2015 22:22:44 GMT
Bayern, By the end of this thread you will yet again be at odds with the majority. I really don't want to point this out, because your responses are entirely predictable.Why do the majority of people see a totally different performance to you.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Nov 7, 2015 22:23:04 GMT
the same shit Whelan does every game. He didn't though, he just looked slow and cumbersome today. It was just awful. well he is slower than Whelan... But he covered for the full backs, moved the ball forward, and maintained possession. I still miss nzonzi, but Charlie for me is the better cm option than cameron or van ginkel.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 7, 2015 22:24:12 GMT
Are you seriously taking the piss?? What did he do passing superb as usual Tackling brilliant Interceptions brilliant Covering every blade of grass on the pitch And go and re watch how many free kicks he wins! Not just tonight but I'm games he plays. When he's under pressure and in a tight situation he puts his body across the ball and gets pushed over. Very very clever which always results in him winning a free kick, but I don't expect you to notice little things like that. He made very excellent pass to Shaq. The rest is just fanciful imo. He got up but couldn't get back, he was absolutely fucked after 20 minutes. He wins free kicks, I won't argue with that but did he do it much today? He usually dives way more than he does tonight. And I mean that in a good way, I like the way he wins free kicks and it is diving but it's what he has to do. I don't think he did it much tonight though. He was barely on the ball and when he was, he was always a gnats cock from getting dispossessed.
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Nov 7, 2015 22:23:53 GMT
As I watched from a television in Dorset, I thought he was good today. My opinion
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 7, 2015 22:24:49 GMT
Bayern, By the end of this thread you will yet again be at odds with the majority. I really don't want to point this out, because your responses are entirely predictable.Why do the majority of people see a totally different performance to you. Half of the ground shouted for offside off a throw in, I can live with that.
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Post by YounginStoke on Nov 7, 2015 22:25:43 GMT
He has no impact on the game in that position whatsoever, simple. Isn't fit to lace Nzonzi's boots and we are in dire need of a CM in Jan.
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Post by whydelilah on Nov 7, 2015 22:26:00 GMT
You don't half talk some shit Bayern.
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Post by potterpaul on Nov 7, 2015 22:26:39 GMT
Bayern, Just once in your life take a hint. Nobody sees (other than Stoke Youth) any validity in your opinion, much thaccept that this time with your dislike of GC and PW. Just accept that you have got this one wrong. Please don't rack up another 50 posts with "nah", as it just makes you look even more out of touch. So then, what did he actually do? I've explained why I thought he was poor. Nobody has said what he actually did..... The midfield were run through like they were not there today. Whelan put up a resistance, Bojan and Adam didn't. It's a problem that we need to sort. Is this a similar problem to Glen Johnson, Cameron, Wolly, Afellay all of which have proved you wrong recently?
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Nov 7, 2015 22:27:16 GMT
I really have no idea what your issue is mate. The whole team played well today. Adam had a good game. I'm really not sure what has happened to you. We worked hard today, looked very solid and fairly threatening. Chelsea look a reasonable side to me, they will finish in the top 8. Good result for me.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 7, 2015 22:28:53 GMT
What a sad thread by a sad person.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 7, 2015 22:30:11 GMT
So then, what did he actually do? I've explained why I thought he was poor. Nobody has said what he actually did..... The midfield were run through like they were not there today. Whelan put up a resistance, Bojan and Adam didn't. It's a problem that we need to sort. Is this a similar problem to Glen Johnson, Cameron, Wolly, Afellay all of which have proved you wrong recently? I just don't think he's very good and he keeps showing why..... Johnson has been hit and miss.....bloody excellent tonight. I think Cameron has been toss all season. Wolly was brilliant tonight but wasn't up against a striker who wanted to score goals but still he dealt with his bullshit well. Fair play to him. Afellay-has played his first good game in a Stoke shirt. Well done to him!
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 7, 2015 22:30:58 GMT
Is this a similar problem to Glen Johnson, Cameron, Wolly, Afellay all of which have proved you wrong recently? I just don't think he's very good and he keeps showing why..... Johnson has been hit and miss.....bloody excellent tonight. I think Cameron has been toss all season. Wolly was brilliant tonight but wasn't up against a striker who wanted to score goals but still he dealt with his bullshit well. Fair play to him. Afellay-has played his first good game in a Stoke shirt. Well done to him! If.. but...blah de fuckin blah....
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Post by thehoof on Nov 7, 2015 22:31:49 GMT
Bayern, It's true.There's just no point knocking when there's nobody home. You carry on.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 7, 2015 22:33:50 GMT
I really have no idea what your issue is mate. The whole team played well today. Adam had a good game. I'm really not sure what has happened to you. We worked hard today, looked very solid and fairly threatening. Chelsea look a reasonable side to me, they will finish in the top 8. Good result for me. I don't think they did. I thought Walters, Adam and Bojan were poor. And I thought the team in the first half were pretty dreadful if I'm being honest. We were however how we should be in the second, the complete opposite of the first half. We were in their face, intense, playing crisp, fast passes and we were fast. Great to watch. Chelsea look piss poor to me. If they keep Mourinho I really don't think they'll improve much, they've lost it imo. Hazard played well but there was lots of sidewards running and no incisiveness. He also had no runners going off him for him to pass to. Costa is more interested in a scrap than scoring goals. They need to drop him faster than a stone. And left back looks a bit of a joke. I think they're in a right mess.
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Post by butlerstbob on Nov 7, 2015 22:34:49 GMT
Cameron shit all season, Johnson hit and miss! You really are showing yourself up pal! Jeez!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 7, 2015 22:34:57 GMT
I just don't think he's very good and he keeps showing why..... Johnson has been hit and miss.....bloody excellent tonight. I think Cameron has been toss all season. Wolly was brilliant tonight but wasn't up against a striker who wanted to score goals but still he dealt with his bullshit well. Fair play to him. Afellay-has played his first good game in a Stoke shirt. Well done to him! If.. but...blah de fuckin blah.... Yeah great.......so what did he do?
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 7, 2015 22:35:34 GMT
I really have no idea what your issue is mate. The whole team played well today. Adam had a good game. I'm really not sure what has happened to you. We worked hard today, looked very solid and fairly threatening. Chelsea look a reasonable side to me, they will finish in the top 8. Good result for me. I don't think they did. I thought Walters, Adam and Bojan were poor. And I thought the team in the first half were pretty dreadful if I'm being honest. We were however how we should be in the second, the complete opposite of the first half. We were in their face, intense, playing crisp, fast passes and we were fast. Great to watch. Chelsea look piss poor to me. If they keep Mourinho I really don't think they'll improve much, they've lost it imo. Hazard played well but there was lots of sidewards running and no incisiveness. He also had no runners going off him for him to pass to. Costa is more interested in a scrap than scoring goals. They need to drop him faster than a stone. And left back looks a bit of a joke. I think they're in a right mess. I'd stop thinking mate if this is that kind of utter drivel you come up with.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 7, 2015 22:36:00 GMT
Cameron shit all season, Johnson hit and miss! You really are showing yourself up pal! Jeez! Cameron's been at fault for pretty much a goal a game. Johnson has been hit and miss. And it is pretty much straight down the middle. That's praise from me though, he's been way better than I expected. Good on him!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 7, 2015 22:36:20 GMT
I don't think they did. I thought Walters, Adam and Bojan were poor. And I thought the team in the first half were pretty dreadful if I'm being honest. We were however how we should be in the second, the complete opposite of the first half. We were in their face, intense, playing crisp, fast passes and we were fast. Great to watch. Chelsea look piss poor to me. If they keep Mourinho I really don't think they'll improve much, they've lost it imo. Hazard played well but there was lots of sidewards running and no incisiveness. He also had no runners going off him for him to pass to. Costa is more interested in a scrap than scoring goals. They need to drop him faster than a stone. And left back looks a bit of a joke. I think they're in a right mess. I'd stop thinking mate if this is that kind of utter drivel you come up with. So it's November, they're 16th, they're playing utter shitely and it's just a blip? Hhhhhmmmmm.
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Post by butlerstbob on Nov 7, 2015 22:37:25 GMT
Its actually getting funny now, stop it Benji oh sorry I meant Bayern!
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Post by stokeny on Nov 7, 2015 22:39:51 GMT
Think he has adapted really well to being more defensive. Up to this year was always worried about his tackling, but he seems to be timing them better this year. When Chelsea had a quick break in first half and it was three against three Ramires shot wide, under pressure from the last man back who was Charlie. Add to that he can deliver some cracking balls and score. Loving Charlie this year
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Post by winston on Nov 7, 2015 22:41:38 GMT
F u c k m e
Yep. We were shite, every single last player. Good job we were playing a relegation team or we would have been battered.
Hughes out.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 7, 2015 22:42:36 GMT
Its actually getting funny now, stop it Benji oh sorry I meant Bayern! Oh it is because nobody is actually countering it with anything good. If you can't give anecdotal evidence because the midfield was overrun (we all saw it) then throw some stats at me at least.
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Post by no1972 on Nov 7, 2015 22:43:58 GMT
I really have no idea what your issue is mate. The whole team played well today. Adam had a good game. I'm really not sure what has happened to you. We worked hard today, looked very solid and fairly threatening. Chelsea look a reasonable side to me, they will finish in the top 8. Good result for me. I don't think they did. I thought Walters, Adam and Bojan were poor. And I thought the team in the first half were pretty dreadful if I'm being honest. We were however how we should be in the second, the complete opposite of the first half. We were in their face, intense, playing crisp, fast passes and we were fast. Great to watch. Chelsea look piss poor to me. If they keep Mourinho I really don't think they'll improve much, they've lost it imo. Hazard played well but there was lots of sidewards running and no incisiveness. He also had no runners going off him for him to pass to. Costa is more interested in a scrap than scoring goals. They need to drop him faster than a stone. And left back looks a bit of a joke. I think they're in a right mess. Were you actually at the game Adam played well one of is cross field passes was one of the best by anyone this season,he also worked hard of the ball so did Walters,Bojan was off the pace first half but improved up to the point he was subbed.As for Chelsea been poor,I wish we were that poor,we won but they run the game but could not finish,it was a back to the wall great performance by us.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 7, 2015 22:44:41 GMT
If.. but...blah de fuckin blah.... Yeah great.......so what did he do? What's up with ya man,we deserverdly beat Chelsea.Stop trying to act the clever cunt.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Nov 7, 2015 22:45:09 GMT
I really have no idea what your issue is mate. The whole team played well today. Adam had a good game. I'm really not sure what has happened to you. We worked hard today, looked very solid and fairly threatening. Chelsea look a reasonable side to me, they will finish in the top 8. Good result for me. I don't think they did. I thought Walters, Adam and Bojan were poor. And I thought the team in the first half were pretty dreadful if I'm being honest. We were however how we should be in the second, the complete opposite of the first half. We were in their face, intense, playing crisp, fast passes and we were fast. Great to watch. Chelsea look piss poor to me. If they keep Mourinho I really don't think they'll improve much, they've lost it imo. Hazard played well but there was lots of sidewards running and no incisiveness. He also had no runners going off him for him to pass to. Costa is more interested in a scrap than scoring goals. They need to drop him faster than a stone. And left back looks a bit of a joke. I think they're in a right mess. Ok on the basis I don't think you are on a wind out I'm going to respond. Bojan was given no space first half. He was effectively being marked out of the game. He did have a couple of heavy touches I agree. Chelsea were giving all of our forwards respect. Walters was having a tough time against Terry and Zouma We are talking about excellent centre halves and they know they were in a game. Adam was very good, once he gave up on one against Hazard but again look at the players they are up against. I'm really not sure what you are expecting. We have good players Nd give any one a good game, we are not at tyre point where you can expect us to dominate Chelsea for 90mins and not make the odd mistake and give up the odd chance. For me somewhere along the line some people have lost a sense of reality.
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