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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 16:24:31 GMT
Wolly lucky not to walk today. That confirms to me that you know absolutely nothing about football. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 1, 2015 16:37:10 GMT
Give over, they both came together and both at the same force. The correct decision was made. No luck just common sense. The ref got it spot on, like he did for most things. I'm not having that. His two handed push is daft but that at the end by Wolly is asking for trouble. Just so we're clear which law is it that you think Wooly has broken and deserves a red for? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 17:52:03 GMT
Really good refereeing displays are the ones you hardly notice
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 1, 2015 18:36:35 GMT
Wolly lucky not to walk today. That confirms to me that you know absolutely nothing about football. So you can go around now thrusting your shoulder into people's faces? He makes contact with his face and if you do that you usually get sent off. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 1, 2015 18:36:56 GMT
I'm not having that. His two handed push is daft but that at the end by Wolly is asking for trouble. Just so we're clear which law is it that you think Wooly has broken and deserves a red for? The same one for what Afellay was sent off for..... |
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Nov 1, 2015 18:39:40 GMT
Roger East has improved in the last 12 months that's for sure and long may it continue.The appointment for next weekend will be an interesting one because the way Jose is going on at the minute he thinks every ref is against Chelsea.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 19:16:47 GMT
Not like you to back yourself into a corner Bayern  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 1, 2015 19:23:10 GMT
I'm mystified more hasn't been made of it tbh.
Nowadays any kind of movement like that in the face is deemed a red.
I genuinely thought he was lucky and you can't be going around doing that.
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Nov 1, 2015 20:56:54 GMT
I also noticed that just after the referee blew the full time whistle, Shawcross picked the ball up. A few seconds earlier and he'd have been in serious, serious trouble for that. I've seen them given.
Surprised more hasn't been made of that.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 1, 2015 21:09:10 GMT
Just so we're clear which law is it that you think Wooly has broken and deserves a red for? The same one for what Afellay was sent off for..... Which is? |
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Post by enuntio on Nov 1, 2015 21:19:50 GMT
It seemed to me that Mitrovic was the luckier of the two players in that particular incident not to be sent off. He wasn't struck in the face, he was pushed away and he made more than a meal of it. Two reds or two yellows, the ref had a very good day at the office
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 1, 2015 21:22:19 GMT
The same one for what Afellay was sent off for..... Which is? You strike an opponent in the face and you're off. Violent conduct I guess but it hasn't had to have been violent for about 10 years. |
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Post by raythesailor on Nov 1, 2015 21:31:11 GMT
Like all who were there (at a great height) I/we had a good view of the incident as it happened. To me it was a nothing incident and the Newcastle player made a meal of it.
Neither the Ref or the lLinesman would have had a better view than us and had to adjudicate on what he/they saw, which was the same as us, Nothing.
He therefore cautioned quite correctly both players for ungent conduct.
The ref used common sense and diffused a silly situation. Unfortunately the powers that be with various dictums, and instructions of, you will do this, or that, or get taken off the list, now make it very difficult for officials to man manage and use common sense , to allow the game to flow and avoid unnecessary cautions and sendings off. We have seen many games ruined by crazy refereeing ( probably caused by such dictums and referees career fears) , ruined over the years. The sending off against W Brom was a typical example. A decade ago a good ref would have given them a good talking to, and made them shake hands. Times have changed.
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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 1, 2015 22:28:41 GMT
Was it Roger Madley at Swansea. Thought he had a great game and in the two since seems to have been good. doesn't get swayed by the home crowd etc.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 2, 2015 12:42:31 GMT
You strike an opponent in the face and you're off. Violent conduct I guess but it hasn't had to have been violent for about 10 years. I think the big difference is Affellay raised his hands to "strike" his opponent. Wooly didn't "strike" him for me, contact was made but at the same force as Mitrovic and no hands were raised. I think this is where the violet conduct rule has changed over the years, raise your hands and it's an automatic red others are to the refs discretion however I don't think it was violent conduct in any way. Neither did the ref or linesman. Correct decision all round. |
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Post by KevinWhimper on Nov 2, 2015 12:52:12 GMT
Mitrovic put his face towards Wolly's shoulder. If that's a red card we might as well pack up and fuck off home now. In fact, I deemed it as an incident of such little significance at the time that I forgot it even happened until I saw the video of it on this thread.
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 2, 2015 13:36:58 GMT
Never a sending off for Wolly... Even NUFC fans were saying it post match... Some soft pufters out there lol The ref was 100% right for booking both players... One to cool down Wolly and another one for mitrovics awful bafta flailing...
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Post by norman conquest on Nov 2, 2015 21:14:55 GMT
Two good refereeing displays on the bounce..............well it sure as fuck wont be three, Sat evening we have a right wanker in charge
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 21:34:50 GMT
So to conclude, no Stoke fans, no Newcastle fans, no pundits, the players, the management team from both sides and the wider public as a whole even bat an eyelid about the Wollscheid incident. Only bayern...........
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Post by thehoof on Nov 3, 2015 14:56:46 GMT
After 79000 posts you would think that entering into any sort of debate where you hold a different view to Bayern is usually going to result in at least 20 further poste from Bayern, where he repeats "I am right, you are wrong".
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 3, 2015 16:24:50 GMT
After 79000 posts you would think that entering into any sort of debate where you hold a different view to Bayern is usually going to result in at least 20 further poste from Bayern, where he repeats "I am right, you are wrong". Pretty much. Until he goes missing on match days or after wild claims like he had over the summer transfer window lol |
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Post by thehoof on Nov 3, 2015 16:56:48 GMT
After 79000 posts you would think that entering into any sort of debate where you hold a different view to Bayern is usually going to result in at least 20 further poste from Bayern, where he repeats "I am right, you are wrong". Pretty much. Until he goes missing on match days or after wild claims like he had over the summer transfer window lol Uh oh USA, you've just invited comments 21 & 22! |
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 3, 2015 17:00:14 GMT
Pretty much. Until he goes missing on match days or after wild claims like he had over the summer transfer window lol Uh oh USA, you've just invited comments 21 & 22! It's my job to remind us all of the wonderful statements made by all on here...  |
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Nov 3, 2015 17:53:57 GMT
No, it doesn't. It's not luck that the ref has done the right thing. It would be unlucky for him to do the wrong thing. As an example if you make a cup of tea correctly is that lucky? No, it isn't. Of course it's luck. You shouldn't be asking the ref to make a decision, once you do you staying on the pitch is in their hands and that is down to the luck of the draw. Wolly was stupid. So 50:50 challenges should be avoided to make sure players dont put the ref in the position of having to make a decision? And, erm, isnt that their job? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 3, 2015 18:15:29 GMT
Of course it's luck. You shouldn't be asking the ref to make a decision, once you do you staying on the pitch is in their hands and that is down to the luck of the draw. Wolly was stupid. So 50:50 challenges should be avoided to make sure players dont put the ref in the position of having to make a decision? And, erm, isnt that their job? That's completely different. |
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Nov 3, 2015 18:17:15 GMT
So 50:50 challenges should be avoided to make sure players dont put the ref in the position of having to make a decision? And, erm, isnt that their job? That's completely different. Oss shit :-) |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 3, 2015 18:21:08 GMT
That's completely different. Oss shit :-) You have to make 50-50's, you don't have to go around putting parts of your body in other people's faces willy nilly. |
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Nov 3, 2015 18:25:27 GMT
You have to make 50-50's, you don't have to go around putting parts of your body in other people's faces willy nilly. Double oss shit! ;-) |
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Post by thehoof on Nov 3, 2015 18:53:01 GMT
QED
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