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Post by Stokeontrent on Oct 24, 2015 15:58:34 GMT
Not for this game but asap. Those 2 are useless. As is joselu Wollscheid is fine! look at the goals today..Wilson at fault for first goal leaving Wollscheid to have to attempt to deal with 2 players (which he slips ins doing so) there is nothing to blame Wollscheid for today at all..Wilson shouldn't be allowed to collect a wage at this club ever again to be honest after that fuck up! as for the attacking players who failed to create 1 clear chance all match..well less said the better Hes wank mate, they both are.
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Post by nott1 on Oct 24, 2015 15:58:43 GMT
I think some people demonstrate that they're really not supporters. So im wrong in what im saying? Its like watching bambi on ice Correct and deep down everbody (even those with the rose tinted specs ) know it too!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 16:01:28 GMT
Wollscheid is fine! look at the goals today..Wilson at fault for first goal leaving Wollscheid to have to attempt to deal with 2 players (which he slips ins doing so) there is nothing to blame Wollscheid for today at all..Wilson shouldn't be allowed to collect a wage at this club ever again to be honest after that fuck up! as for the attacking players who failed to create 1 clear chance all match..well less said the better Hes wank mate, they both are. All about opinions...this thread should tell you that you and the op are in a very very small minority with your opinion though, which says it all
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Post by wearepremierleague on Oct 24, 2015 16:02:24 GMT
He played well? Jesus wept if that is playing well, he just let the man score the second goal what was he playing at?
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Post by StatesideStokie on Oct 24, 2015 16:06:41 GMT
Not sure why anyone is pointing the finger at Wolly, thought he was on of our better performers today. The problem lay further up the filled where our inability to put a decent ball into the box has cost us dearly. Watfird were well organized defensively, but we had ample opportunities to deliver decent service from the flanks and failed to capitalize. Poor performance, and we move on.
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 24, 2015 16:07:45 GMT
Wolly wasn't the problem, it was the person who replaced Cameron.
All wolly did was slip, other then that he had a great game.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 24, 2015 16:09:05 GMT
He was fucking gash.
I very rarely say things like that about players, but the travesty of having to watch that pair of clowns at CH after the riches we've been treated to in that position over the past few years is bringing out the anger. If we had to play a whole season with them two as the CB partnership we'd finish bottom by fucking miles.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 16:08:59 GMT
Not sure why anyone is pointing the finger at Wolly, thought he was on of our better performers today. The problem lay further up the filled where our inability to put a decent ball into the box has cost us dearly. Watfird were well organized defensively, but we had ample opportunities to deliver decent service from the flanks and failed to capitalize. Poor performance, and we move on. The ones are doing so are idiots it's as simple as that. Yes the defence well 1 bit of it anyway cost us twice today but the attackers should be the focus of abuse as well..all that possession and dominance not a single clear cut chance made
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 24, 2015 16:11:26 GMT
Not sure why anyone is pointing the finger at Wolly, thought he was on of our better performers today. The problem lay further up the filled where our inability to put a decent ball into the box has cost us dearly. Watfird were well organized defensively, but we had ample opportunities to deliver decent service from the flanks and failed to capitalize. Poor performance, and we move on. The ones are doing so are idiots it's as simple as that. Yes the defence well 1 bit of it anyway cost us twice today but the attackers should be the focus of abuse as well..all that possession and dominance not a single clear cut chance made With an even slightly competent CB pairing today we'd have had a point. That's why the finger is being pointed.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 24, 2015 16:11:06 GMT
Wilson.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 16:11:32 GMT
He was fucking gash. I very rarely say things like that about players, but the travesty of having to watch that pair of clowns at CH after the riches we've been treated to in that position over the past few years is bringing out the anger. If we had to play a whole season with them two as the CB partnership we'd finish bottom by fucking miles. Bit harsh on Wolly mate him and Geoff have been playing well you cant blame him for Wilson's failings and the most shit piece bit of defending I have seen in years.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 24, 2015 16:13:13 GMT
He was fucking gash. I very rarely say things like that about players, but the travesty of having to watch that pair of clowns at CH after the riches we've been treated to in that position over the past few years is bringing out the anger. If we had to play a whole season with them two as the CB partnership we'd finish bottom by fucking miles. Bit harsh on Wolly mate him and Geoff have been playing well you cant blame him for Wilson's failings and the most shit piece bit of defending I have seen in years. Wollscheid was at fault for both goals. Not quite as much as Wilson but there's not much in it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 16:15:07 GMT
Bit harsh on Wolly mate him and Geoff have been playing well you cant blame him for Wilson's failings and the most shit piece bit of defending I have seen in years. Wollscheid was at fault for both goals. Not quite as much as Wilson but there's not much in it. Wollscheid slipped as he was left with 2 players to mark either side of him! Because of Marc Wilson He couldn't do anything about the second goal..because of Marc Wilson It really isn't hard to see where the WHOLE of the blame should lie
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Post by dave77 on Oct 24, 2015 16:17:15 GMT
Shocking today, need Ryan back. As I said from day one, we sold the wrong german. Totally spineless performance today. Dominated both in the air and on the ground by Deeney and Ighalo.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 24, 2015 16:19:13 GMT
Wollscheid was at fault for both goals. Not quite as much as Wilson but there's not much in it. Wollscheid slipped as he was left with 2 players to mark either side of him! Because of Marc Wilson He couldn't do anything about the second goal..because of Marc Wilson It really isn't hard to see where the WHOLE of the blame should lie The slip was his own fault - completely misread the move, you can't just abandon the guy with the ball in the middle of the box to cover someone else. Second goal was unbelievable, stood around with his finger in his arse and just allowed the guy to advance and shoot. Piss poor defending, on both goals, by both of them.
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Post by badger on Oct 24, 2015 16:19:16 GMT
Bit harsh on Wolly mate him and Geoff have been playing well you cant blame him for Wilson's failings and the most shit piece bit of defending I have seen in years. Wollscheid was at fault for both goals. Not quite as much as Wilson but there's not much in it. Jesus wept, you're gonna need a bigger boat for this fishing expedition. Did your stream freeze for both goals??
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 24, 2015 16:19:58 GMT
He's wank.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 16:21:43 GMT
Wollscheid wasn't the problem today.
These agendas are pathetic.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 24, 2015 16:23:04 GMT
Wollscheid was at fault for both goals. Not quite as much as Wilson but there's not much in it. Jesus wept, you're gonna need a bigger boat for this fishing expedition. Did your stream freeze for both goals?? See above post expanding on the reasons why. Crap defending on both goals.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 24, 2015 16:24:15 GMT
He was fucking gash. I very rarely say things like that about players, but the travesty of having to watch that pair of clowns at CH after the riches we've been treated to in that position over the past few years is bringing out the anger. If we had to play a whole season with them two as the CB partnership we'd finish bottom by fucking miles. spot on mate.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 24, 2015 16:26:08 GMT
Wilson was so bad he can't even have his own thread the admins keep deleting them... I don't know what is worse... LOL
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 16:26:13 GMT
What a bizarre thread. Just wow.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 24, 2015 16:26:27 GMT
Wollscheid is ok, but needs a more mobile senior partner to help him out. Marc Wilson, who is to communication and mobility what Danny Collins is to defending, is not that player. Same for Muniesa on all of those counts.
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Post by tuum on Oct 24, 2015 16:26:34 GMT
Wollscheid was at fault for both goals. Not quite as much as Wilson but there's not much in it. Wollscheid slipped as he was left with 2 players to mark either side of him! Because of Marc Wilson He couldn't do anything about the second goal..because of Marc Wilson It really isn't hard to see where the WHOLE of the blame should lie Wolly has been steady the last couple of games. Today,the goals were not directly his fault but he perhaps could have got tighter. I think the reason he doesn't is because he knows he is slow and is trying to compensate for that. He is unwilling to commit further forward because he wants to avoid leaving space behind. This is fine when the back 9 are compact and disciplined behind the ball but the minute the defence opens up I think he is exposed.This is a concern to me and I am not sure he will ever win me over...that and his petulance last season when he was playing poorly and was seemingly feeling the pressure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 16:28:15 GMT
Shocking today, need Ryan back. As I said from day one, we sold the wrong german. Totally spineless performance today. Dominated both in the air and on the ground by Deeney and Ighalo. We only sold one German.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 24, 2015 16:29:08 GMT
Wollscheid is ok, but needs a more mobile senior partner to help him out. Marc Wilson, who is to communication and mobility what Danny Collins is to defending, is not that player. Same for Muniesa on all of those counts. In other words every CB we have who isn't Shawcross needs to play with Shawcross to look vaguely half-decent. How has it come to this?
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Post by barcaontrent on Oct 24, 2015 16:30:03 GMT
If you think wolly is the one needed blaming for today you shouldn't continue to watch stoke
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 24, 2015 16:32:40 GMT
The bigger question is why Wilson cannot have his own thread after an abysmal showing like that yet any other stoke player including Wolly would get one... Fucking dictatorship of administrators and forum guards lol
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 24, 2015 16:34:38 GMT
Wollscheid is ok, but needs a more mobile senior partner to help him out. Marc Wilson, who is to communication and mobility what Danny Collins is to defending, is not that player. Same for Muniesa on all of those counts. In other words every CB we have who isn't Shawcross needs to play with Shawcross to look vaguely half-decent. How has it come to this? Well some of us did spend the summer stressing the importance of signing a big, dominating centre back...
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 24, 2015 16:35:36 GMT
He did well today apart from the slip to be fair , Cameron going off did us no favours , Wilson has always got a mistake in him but after weeks without football he really struggled at times
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