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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 3, 2016 0:04:34 GMT
This was well nown when he signed , great profit on him if he goes good luck to the lad , Danny graham from Sunderland anyone
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 0:05:58 GMT
This was well nown when he signed , great profit on him if he goes good luck to the lad , Danny graham from Sunderland anyone That would be like some bloke pinching your page 3 missus and leaving you with Peggy Mitchell.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 0:08:14 GMT
This was well nown when he signed , great profit on him if he goes good luck to the lad , Danny graham from Sunderland anyone I'd rather eat my own dirt.
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Post by skip on Jan 3, 2016 0:08:28 GMT
Bojan and/or Arnie leaving is the modern Butler Street roof. We'd be saying 'what if' with a heavy heart for years.
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 3, 2016 0:15:12 GMT
This is going to be a VERY LONG month ahead
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Jan 3, 2016 0:19:20 GMT
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Jan 3, 2016 0:19:20 GMT
I'm shocked that Bojan, a massive prospect (even if he was struggling when we signed him), has a release clause so low when we signed him.
I'm even more shocked that the Mirror have managed to find out about it.
I'm even more shocked that, not only have they found out about it but, no one else have managed to find out about it.
And well done to them for waiting until the start of January to make up a news story...
It's almost as if that's how they make their money and gain publicity...
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Post by liamo on Jan 3, 2016 0:21:12 GMT
Mirror is full of shit.... i hope I'd like to think that our club would be more astute than that, i mean someone with Bojan's potential.. there was always a high probability that he would find his feet and start recovering his form, we wouldn't be so daft as to only put only a £10m release clause would we? Bog brushes like Fellaini get sold for £28m and we could lose Bojan for 10
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Jan 3, 2016 0:33:22 GMT
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Post by oldschool on Jan 3, 2016 0:33:22 GMT
My major concern now is what if these players have signed for us, knowing we're a stepping stone into the prem! We're not a top 4 club, we can't sign that quality and expect to keep it, can we?
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 3, 2016 0:36:15 GMT
Ah, we just can't catch a break can we?
First we're relegated after not winning in 2016, now we're losing all our best players.
FML.
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Jan 3, 2016 0:36:25 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Jan 3, 2016 0:36:25 GMT
Nobody could have predicted his rise to form. All we can do is try and get it increased. I feel Bojan is enjoying his football right now. The likelihood of him going some pub club like Liverpool or Spurs is remote. However, he might be tempted by an offer from a big club, unfortunately
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Post by 1raytuper on Jan 3, 2016 0:36:42 GMT
Mirror is full of shit.... i hope I'd like to think that our club would be more astute than that, i mean someone with Bojan's potential.. there was always a high probability that he would find his feet and start recovering his form, we wouldn't be so daft as to only put only a £10m release clause would we? Bog brushes like Fellaini get sold for £28m and we could lose Bojan for 10 we didnt put the 10 mill clause in,bojan would have asked for it,he obviously sees us as a stepping stone and didnt want to give stoke the chance to price him out of a decent move
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Jan 3, 2016 0:42:36 GMT
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Post by bookofsouls23 on Jan 3, 2016 0:42:36 GMT
Just been listening to talk sport and the mirror sports editor Jon cross has just been talking about this and I just hope this is bull,he mentioned arnie in the transfer window As well. Very unsettling with a lot of big games coming up. But 10 million release clause would be astonishing in a bad way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 0:44:12 GMT
Are we sure that this 10M isn't the buyback clause that Barca have and people who think they know something are getting things mixed up?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 3, 2016 0:45:11 GMT
Are we sure that this 10M isn't the buyback clause that Barca have and people who think they know something are getting things mixed up? £10 million plus Neymar & Messi, otherwise they can fuck off.
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Jan 3, 2016 0:52:27 GMT
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Post by samba :) on Jan 3, 2016 0:52:27 GMT
Are we sure that this 10M isn't the buyback clause that Barca have and people who think they know something are getting things mixed up? £10 million plus Neymar & Messi, otherwise they can fuck off. and pique and busquets and vampire
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Post by siggy on Jan 3, 2016 0:54:56 GMT
Here's a thought for everyone especially our players - The fans and the club love you for what you are doing presently, the pride you give us extends across the the team the fans and the whole club -its what makes us Stoke.
When you went out and played well like you have against Citeh, United & Everton you did it as Stoke and you did it in style but those wins were worth more, more worthy and will be far more appreciated than a win for any big club that might now want to sign you
There is more class, more pride and more glory in a win in a stoke shirt than say an Arsenal or Man U one because lets face it you have done in on a cold windy night or day for a small club with a big heart & soul.
Win a trophy with Chelsea Or Arsenal and if you are lucky they will love you for that season, win a trophy for a small club like Stoke and you will become immortal
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Jan 3, 2016 0:57:22 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 3, 2016 0:57:22 GMT
Are we sure that this 10M isn't the buyback clause that Barca have and people who think they know something are getting things mixed up? This would make more sense. If it is true could we just not offer him a new contract and get rid of it or a least raise it, saying that it is the mirror probably nothing in it.
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Jan 3, 2016 0:59:19 GMT
Post by liamo on Jan 3, 2016 0:59:19 GMT
I'm skeptical tbh, there was always going to be a bit of noise around our attacking players, i really can't see Bojan leaving yet and haven't we been holding contract talks with Arnie? Didn't he himself say that we need to keep all our best players if we want to push on not long ago?
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Jan 3, 2016 1:03:59 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 3, 2016 1:03:59 GMT
Let's say "IF" he wanted to leave then £10M is a good profit on what we brought him for..... Saying that....personally speaking, at this moment in time, he'd be daft to go, a good couple of seasons with Stoke would do him the world of good, try to leave to early, especially for a top club could end up pushing him right back to square one!!!
Your call Bojy son!!!!
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 1:13:56 GMT
Post by kustokie on Jan 3, 2016 1:13:56 GMT
Let's say "IF" he wanted to leave then £10M is a good profit on what we brought him for..... Saying that....personally speaking, at this moment in time, he'd be daft to go, a good couple of seasons with Stoke would do him the world of good, try to leave to early, especially for a top club could end up pushing him right back to square one!!! Your call Bojy son!!!! Don't be daft. We want trophies not cash. No way we could replace him for 10 million unless we got very lucky (again).
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Jan 3, 2016 1:20:45 GMT
Post by madnellie on Jan 3, 2016 1:20:45 GMT
It's the Mirror, the journalistic equivalent of the Gravity Crocodile. Plus I'm not letting him go anywhere anyway. I REALLY needed a laugh tonight and that Mirror/Gravity Crocodile comment did the job. Thanks!
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Jan 3, 2016 1:38:52 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 3, 2016 1:38:52 GMT
Let's say "IF" he wanted to leave then £10M is a good profit on what we brought him for..... Saying that....personally speaking, at this moment in time, he'd be daft to go, a good couple of seasons with Stoke would do him the world of good, try to leave to early, especially for a top club could end up pushing him right back to square one!!! Your call Bojy son!!!! Don't be daft. We want trophies not cash. No way we could replace him for 10 million unless we got very lucky (again). If his release fee is £10M what fuckin choice do we have then????? I don't want him to go, but if he see's his future elsewhere then £10M is better than holding on to a player who wants to be elsewhere, and before you kick off, I'm "NOT" saying he WANTS to be elsewhere, I'm just referring to the scenario that a big club comes in and he want to go!!!
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Post by stokiemarc on Jan 3, 2016 2:00:52 GMT
Let's say "IF" he wanted to leave then £10M is a good profit on what we brought him for..... Saying that....personally speaking, at this moment in time, he'd be daft to go, a good couple of seasons with Stoke would do him the world of good, try to leave to early, especially for a top club could end up pushing him right back to square one!!! Your call Bojy son!!!! Wouldn't be a great profit as Barca have a large sell on clause (maybe even 50%) if people are to be believed.
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Jan 3, 2016 2:04:37 GMT
Post by sifta on Jan 3, 2016 2:04:37 GMT
Seeing as we have split from the transfer thread, I'll put this here as well.
At the time of negotiating Bojan's contract, we were getting him for a steal, and he would have had the upper hand in any negotiations, so of course if his agent asked for a £10M release clause, we would have said yes.
Also at the time of negotiating the contract, Bojan was worth nowhere near £10M, so putting it in the contract was not a big issue, if it got invoked, it would just mean that things had turned out well for all parties. (Bojan had got back to his best, and Stoke would make a tidy profit)
The bottom line though is that a release clause is only going to be invoked if the player wants to move. There are a number of reasons I can think of that a player would want to move, but I don't think any of them apply here, so I really can't see him going.
Reasons to want a move
1. Not playing regularly (Well he is, so no problem)
2. Fall out with manager/staff (Well he hasn't so no problem)
3. Not being paid enough (If this is an issue it can be sorted)
4. Wanting to play for a big club (He's already done that, and knows the realities, he's not an awestruck teenager like Sterling, I think he may have some unfinished business to prove to himself sometime, but possibly in a season or two?)
5. Agent wants a bonus (This is probably the most dangerous)
6. Wanting European Football next season. (There is a chance of that where he is now, certainly more of a chance than Chelsea, and probably Man Utd.)
7. Wanting to live somewhere sunny. (He seems to be prepared to put up with this for now)
8. Wanting to get back into the national team (This may be an issue, but playing regularly in the premiership with the style of football being played, is probably doing him no harm)
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Jan 3, 2016 2:07:56 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 3, 2016 2:07:56 GMT
Seeing as we have split from the transfer thread, I'll put this here as well. At the time of negotiating Bojan's contract, we were getting him for a steal, and he would have had the upper hand in any negotiations, so of course if his agent asked for a £10M release clause, we would have said yes. Also at the time of negotiating the contract, Bojan was worth nowhere near £10M, so putting it in the contract was not a big issue, if it got invoked, it would just mean that things had turned out well for all parties. (Bojan had got back to his best, and Stoke would make a tidy profit) The bottom line though is that a release clause is only going to be invoked if the player wants to move. There are a number of reasons I can think of that a player would want to move, but I don't think any of them apply here, so I really can't see him going. Reasons to want a move 1. Not playing regularly (Well he is, so no problem) 2. Fall out with manager/staff (Well he hasn't so no problem) 3. Not being paid enough (If this is an issue it can be sorted) 4. Wanting to play for a big club (He's already done that, and knows the realities, he's not an awestruck teenager like Sterling, I think he may have some unfinished business to prove to himself sometime, but possibly in a season or two?) 5. Agent wants a bonus (This is probably the most dangerous) 6. Wanting European Football next season. (There is a chance of that where he is now, certainly more of a chance than Chelsea, and probably Man Utd.) 7. Wanting to live somewhere sunny. (He seems to be prepared to put up with this for now) 8. Wanting to get back into the national team (This may be an issue, but playing regularly in the premiership with the style of football being played, is probably doing him no harm) At the time Bojan was desperate and should have imo dancing to our merry tune. He was lucky such a good club came in for him.
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Jan 3, 2016 2:13:29 GMT
Post by sifta on Jan 3, 2016 2:13:29 GMT
At the time Bojan was desperate and should have imo dancing to our merry tune. He was lucky such a good club came in for him. He was so poor a player, that he was absolutely desperate for a club, but a £10M release clause was way too low?
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Jan 3, 2016 2:16:09 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 3, 2016 2:16:09 GMT
At the time Bojan was desperate and should have imo dancing to our merry tune. He was lucky such a good club came in for him. He was so poor a player, that he was absolutely desperate for a club, but a £10M release clause was way too low? Why would we put a release clause in? We held every card, we're one of the richest clubs in world football (something people forget). We have no reason to put one in or agree to one. And the hope with his sort of signing would be be to sell them for the most you can (especially if a massive sell on fee with Barca is true). It makes no sense to have one. If we have then serious questions about Scholes have to be asked.
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Jan 3, 2016 2:18:15 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 3, 2016 2:18:15 GMT
At the time Bojan was desperate and should have imo dancing to our merry tune. He was lucky such a good club came in for him. He was so poor a player, that he was absolutely desperate for a club, but a £10M release clause was way too low? We gave him a FIVE year deal, why we do that then undermine it with a release clause? Surely it would be one OR the other.
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Jan 3, 2016 3:06:06 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 3, 2016 3:06:06 GMT
Let's say "IF" he wanted to leave then £10M is a good profit on what we brought him for..... Saying that....personally speaking, at this moment in time, he'd be daft to go, a good couple of seasons with Stoke would do him the world of good, try to leave to early, especially for a top club could end up pushing him right back to square one!!! Your call Bojy son!!!! Wouldn't be a great profit as Barca have a large sell on clause (maybe even 50%) if people are to be believed. It wouldn't be a great profit no, but if he has a clause in his contract that says he can go should anyone offer £10M or over then how can we hold him back??? I, like everyone else just hope he wants to really stay here!!!
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Jan 3, 2016 3:37:53 GMT
Post by sifta on Jan 3, 2016 3:37:53 GMT
We gave him a FIVE year deal, why we do that then undermine it with a release clause? Surely it would be one OR the other. If you believe that we were in the driving seat when the contract was being negotiated, with Bojan desperate to sign for us, and having nobody else to go to, then it makes no sense. If, however we were punching above our weight in trying to get him to sign, then it makes perfect sense. The five year deal gives him security, and stability, if he doesn't re-discover his form, while the release clause keeps his options open, if he does. As I said in my earlier post however, this is all irrelevant if Bojan is happy here, which I think he probably is.
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