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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 13:58:42 GMT
Reading on Twitter that cleaners, people on turnstiles, stewards and even medical staff won't have to be paid for by West Ham but the taxpayer. Also suggestion that NFL games will be played there, coincidentally on the same week Osborne announces plans to have an NFL team in London.
Something needs to be done about this and I'm sure a lot of West Ham fans themselves don't agree with what is happening. 'The crusade on poverty' has begun.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 14:02:40 GMT
i presumed that the cleaners etc. etc. being paid by the taxpayer was all part and parcel of the amounts that West Ham were "avoiding" anyway rather than being a new cost we have to foot the bill of? simply that when they mentioned the x million that the taxpayer would be picking up beforehand, they just didn't break down what those costs were for but now they have.
i also thought the NFL part of the deal was something that had been intended since pretty much the start of the whole fiasco deal as well (must admit i'd heard about it ages ago)
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 9, 2015 14:22:35 GMT
It's rich when our FA is proselytising about septic blatter when this is happening on their own patch.
I'm sure there is brown envelopes and dildos involved in this deal.
Boris getting bummed by dildo brothers now there's a thought
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 14:30:37 GMT
Out of all the clubs outside of the elite West Ham are the undisputed media/FA darling. World Cup winners and all that bollocks. About 10 years ago they shafted Sheffield United (who have been languishing in Lg1 for fuck knows how long now) and now the FA and the government are giving West Ham the legup that their great club truly deserves. Fuck the rest of course. West Ham deserve to be great and we'll use our powers of corruption to give them every chance of getting there.
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 9, 2015 14:35:11 GMT
i presumed that the cleaners etc. etc. being paid by the taxpayer was all part and parcel of the amounts that West Ham were "avoiding" anyway rather than being a new cost we have to foot the bill of? simply that when they mentioned the x million that the taxpayer would be picking up beforehand, they just didn't break down what those costs were for but now they have. i also thought the NFL part of the deal was something that had been intended since pretty much the start of the whole fiasco deal as well (must admit i'd heard about it ages ago) Yeah it's just Stoke L & P reporting their up to date in the know news on facebook & twitter. It was in the press months ago that West Ham are getting the Stadium for pretty much free because the rent payable will be effectively returned in the shape of various match day costs being paid for by the public purse. |
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Post by liamo on Oct 9, 2015 14:46:54 GMT
In all fairness it's not their stadium, they're renting it, are they supposed to employ staff and pay them when the stadium is being used for NFL games or rugby or god knows what else they're allowed to use it for? It cost 700 million you can bet that they're going to get their money back one way or another
I can see reasoning from both sides tbh
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 14:48:15 GMT
Out of all the clubs outside of the elite West Ham are the undisputed media/FA darling. World Cup winners and all that bollocks. About 10 years ago they shafted Sheffield United (who have been languishing in Lg1 for fuck knows how long now) and now the FA and the government are giving West Ham the legup that their great club truly deserves. Fuck the rest of course. West Ham deserve to be great and we'll use our powers of corruption to give them every chance of getting there. Two words ... Trevor. Brooking. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 14:49:56 GMT
i presumed that the cleaners etc. etc. being paid by the taxpayer was all part and parcel of the amounts that West Ham were "avoiding" anyway rather than being a new cost we have to foot the bill of? simply that when they mentioned the x million that the taxpayer would be picking up beforehand, they just didn't break down what those costs were for but now they have. i also thought the NFL part of the deal was something that had been intended since pretty much the start of the whole fiasco deal as well (must admit i'd heard about it ages ago) Yeah it's just Stoke L & P reporting their up to date in the know news on facebook & twitter. It was in the press months ago that West Ham are getting the Stadium for pretty much free because the rent payable will be effectively returned in the shape of various match day costs being paid for by the public purse. I saw it on a Sky Sports News presenters account and it was talking about the specific details I mentioned. |
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 9, 2015 14:57:23 GMT
Yeah it's just Stoke L & P reporting their up to date in the know news on facebook & twitter. It was in the press months ago that West Ham are getting the Stadium for pretty much free because the rent payable will be effectively returned in the shape of various match day costs being paid for by the public purse. I saw it on a Sky Sports News presenters account and it was talking about the specific details I mentioned. Fair enough, I'd seen SL & P have a rant about 2 hours ago so thought you'd gone off that. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33780720That's what I'd read a couple of months ago, it's not in great detail but basically says the same thing. |
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Post by metalhead on Oct 9, 2015 14:57:38 GMT
Out of all the clubs outside of the elite West Ham are the undisputed media/FA darling. World Cup winners and all that bollocks. About 10 years ago they shafted Sheffield United (who have been languishing in Lg1 for fuck knows how long now) and now the FA and the government are giving West Ham the legup that their great club truly deserves. Fuck the rest of course. West Ham deserve to be great and we'll use our powers of corruption to give them every chance of getting there. Agreed. The madness of that was ridiculous. West Ham had to pay a 5 million pound fine or something? Laughable. They earned more than 5 million by simply being in the Premiership..... fucking disgusting and can you imagine if it was Stoke who'd pulled the same stunt? |
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Post by staffsvilla on Oct 9, 2015 15:06:59 GMT
When Gold,Sullivan and Brady sold and left small heath, the main reason was that their plans to relocate to a 'multi purpose' stadium partly funded by b'ham city council got laughed at by said council, they obviously knew Boris and co were the gullable fit they needed  |
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Post by march4 on Oct 9, 2015 15:12:18 GMT
Did we enjoy having the Olympics in the UK?
If so, the stadium could only be maintained for future athletics use if a long term client was found.
The only viable client were West Ham. When you are the only viable client you can strike the best deal possible.
This sort of deal was inevitable from the moment the Olympic bid was successful.
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Post by lordb on Oct 9, 2015 15:13:14 GMT
Its not their stadium so why should they pay for someone elses staff?
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Post by Gods on Oct 9, 2015 15:15:51 GMT
MRS. RICHARDS: I’m going to finish my breakfast. And when I come back I want the rest of my money. SYBIL FAWLTY: Give it to her, Basil. I can’t find it. Give her 10 from the till… What are you doing? BASIL FAWLTY: I’m going to give her the shirt off my back too!  |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 9, 2015 16:06:23 GMT
In all fairness it's not their stadium, they're renting it, are they supposed to employ staff and pay them when the stadium is being used for NFL games or rugby or god knows what else they're allowed to use it for? It cost 700 million you can bet that they're going to get their money back one way or another I can see reasoning from both sides tbh If its not there stadium how come everything's in claret and blue. Surely if that's the case they should be made to remove the WHUFC brand on non match days |
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Post by lordb on Oct 9, 2015 19:45:53 GMT
Out of all the clubs outside of the elite West Ham are the undisputed media/FA darling. World Cup winners and all that bollocks. About 10 years ago they shafted Sheffield United (who have been languishing in Lg1 for fuck knows how long now) and now the FA and the government are giving West Ham the legup that their great club truly deserves. Fuck the rest of course. West Ham deserve to be great and we'll use our powers of corruption to give them every chance of getting there. Two words ... Trevor. Brooking. What about him? What involvement has he had in all of this? None,surely. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 9, 2015 19:55:56 GMT
There was a full program about this very thing, it had gone to far a long time ago.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 20:07:38 GMT
Paid for by the beneficiary. Whatever fucked up agreement puts the beneficiary as the liable party!?
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 9, 2015 20:10:51 GMT
Do the competition rules in business also apply to football clubs...?
Maybe I'm being a mardarse but it seems unfair to me... I am biased though as I despise the hierarchy at that club.
Especially after Brady's Shawcross rant.
Stupid fuckpig that she is.
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Post by no1972 on Oct 9, 2015 20:41:38 GMT
If we were in the same position,and rented our stadium when it was built then the tax payers of Stoke on Trent would feel ripped off.O we did but never paid any rent,the only part of the stadium we owned were the offices,so don't us start moaning about other clubs getting the best deal for themselves,I say good luck and looking forward going there.
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 9, 2015 21:32:36 GMT
In all fairness it's not their stadium, they're renting it, are they supposed to employ staff and pay them when the stadium is being used for NFL games or rugby or god knows what else they're allowed to use it for? It cost 700 million you can bet that they're going to get their money back one way or another I can see reasoning from both sides tbh It may not be their stadium but they are getting to use it for free for the next 99 years. They sold The Boleyn for many times more than they contributed to the conversion of this new stadium which has 20,000 more seats and better transport links. WHU have been assisted in moving to an improved ground whilst making a profit in the region of £55M. (Approx sale of Boleyn £70M- contribution to new ground £15M) Most high street shops are rented; those shops have to pay for their own staff, cleaning and utilities. People who rent houses rarely get cleaners thrown in as part of their rent. There is no way anyone can dress up this obscene waste of taxpayer's money as anything other than de facto state sponsorship of West Ham United. Who exactly is getting this £700M back? |
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Post by hammered on Oct 9, 2015 21:46:09 GMT
West Ham rent public building shock!!
Our tenancy both creates and keeps all the people who will work the Stadium in a job!!
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 9, 2015 21:50:28 GMT
West Ham rent public building shock!! Our tenancy both creates and keeps all the people who will work the Stadium in a job!! Well aren't you a generous bunch..! Im sure thats just what fuckpig and the dildo bros had in mind.... |
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Post by rawli on Oct 9, 2015 22:04:21 GMT
West Ham rent public building shock!! Our tenancy both creates and keeps all the people who will work the Stadium in a job!! Your generosity knows no bounds. On behalf of the nation, may I thank you. It's the equivalent of fly tipping and saying you are keeping the people who clear it up in work. |
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 9, 2015 22:26:33 GMT
West Ham rent public building shock!! Our tenancy both creates and keeps all the people who will work the Stadium in a job!! I'm sure the millions of pounds that the taxpayer is spending on subsidising your football club's expansion could be used to create many more jobs in all sorts of other areas that would benefit the whole population rather than just the fanbase of a football club. The money that is being donated to WHU could pay for schools or nurses. It could even be used to build some affordable housing; you know the sort of housing that morally should have been built on the site of The Boleyn. |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 9, 2015 22:48:17 GMT
Did we enjoy having the Olympics in the UK? If so, the stadium could only be maintained for future athletics use if a long term client was found. The only viable client were West Ham. When you are the only viable client you can strike the best deal possible. This sort of deal was inevitable from the moment the Olympic bid was successful. That is unfortunately the nub of it. It has nothing to do with the FA or the Gvt apart from the impact on Leyton Orient which is a different issue to the finances of the stadium. The truth is they didn't sort out the stadium legacy issue in advance or learn the lessons from Sydney and other places. Boris ignored those lessons and West Ham were left in a buyers market and could strike a really good deal for themselves. If you don't think tit should have been allowed you need to say how you would sort out the Olympic legacy issue given where things were at once the games had finished and the undertakings given. Not easy. You can't be surprised at WHU taking advantage of the strength of their negotiating hand. |
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Post by hammered on Oct 9, 2015 23:03:48 GMT
Did we enjoy having the Olympics in the UK? If so, the stadium could only be maintained for future athletics use if a long term client was found. The only viable client were West Ham. When you are the only viable client you can strike the best deal possible. This sort of deal was inevitable from the moment the Olympic bid was successful. That is unfortunately the nub of it. It has nothing to do with the FA or the Gvt apart from the impact on Leyton Orient which is a different issue to the finances of the stadium. The truth is they didn't sort out the stadium legacy issue in advance or learn the lessons from Sydney and other places. Boris ignored those lessons and West Ham were left in a buyers market and could strike a really good deal for themselves. If you don't think tit should have been allowed you need to say how you would sort out the Olympic legacy issue given where things were at once the games had finished and the undertakings given. Not easy. You can't be surprised at WHU taking advantage of the strength of their negotiating hand. Thank you Lord B, March and Malcolm. Delivering the legacy became more important than what it cost in the end. That WHU are taking advantage suggests the mess Government. and Olympics bods found themselves in. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 9, 2015 23:09:57 GMT
If we were in the same position,and rented our stadium when it was built then the tax payers of Stoke on Trent would feel ripped off.O we did but never paid any rent,the only part of the stadium we owned were the offices,so don't us start moaning about other clubs getting the best deal for themselves,I say good luck and looking forward going there. You should read up on it, its no where near the same, also its pretty strange they won't be fully open to what the deal is. |
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Post by gonk on Oct 10, 2015 6:00:56 GMT
Out of all the clubs outside of the elite West Ham are the undisputed media/FA darling. World Cup winners and all that bollocks. About 10 years ago they shafted Sheffield United (who have been languishing in Lg1 for fuck knows how long now) and now the FA and the government are giving West Ham the legup that their great club truly deserves. Fuck the rest of course. West Ham deserve to be great and we'll use our powers of corruption to give them every chance of getting there. Two words ... Trevor. Brooking. More like Lady Brady the tory peer.No dout Osborne will be offering the nation shares in the place soon.  |
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 10, 2015 7:27:57 GMT
Did we enjoy having the Olympics in the UK? If so, the stadium could only be maintained for future athletics use if a long term client was found. The only viable client were West Ham. When you are the only viable client you can strike the best deal possible. This sort of deal was inevitable from the moment the Olympic bid was successful. tit should have been allowed you won't be getting on Songs of praise, using language like that  |
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