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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 13:09:30 GMT
Jeremy Corbyn is being accused of a new snub to the Queen by declining an invitation to attend a meeting of the Privy Council today and be sworn in as a member.
The Labour leader claims he has "prior engagements", but senior Conservative MPs are claiming he is being disrespectful to the Queen and dragging her into politics.
Mr Corbyn was invited by David Cameron to join the Privy Council when he phoned him to congratulate him on becoming leader of the opposition last month.
But since then he has ducked questions about when he would take up the offer.
It is thought Mr Corbyn, a lifelong republican, is reluctant to attend the ceremony because it involves kneeling before the Queen, swearing an oath and kissing her hand.
Being a member of the Privy Council means an MP is called Right Honourable in the Commons instead of just Honourable.
It also gives access to secret intelligence briefings on occasions.
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Post by kbillyh on Oct 8, 2015 13:34:01 GMT
Corbyn gets accused of something, how unusual.
The media will accuse him of everything negative they possibly can to distract the public from listening to his message. This is yet another nothing story.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 13:40:14 GMT
Corbyn gets accused of something, how unusual. The media will accuse him of everything negative they possibly can to distract the public from listening to his message. This is yet another nothing story. Same as they did to farage.....what's good for the goose and all that  |
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Post by kbillyh on Oct 8, 2015 13:54:50 GMT
Corbyn gets accused of something, how unusual. The media will accuse him of everything negative they possibly can to distract the public from listening to his message. This is yet another nothing story. Same as they did to farage.....what's good for the goose and all that I agree, although there were some huge swathes of the controlling media bending over backwards to give him a platform to spread his message which has been most unusual for a minority party, unprecedented in fact. It's enough to make you think he was a creation of their own making in order to push the political debate further right. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 8, 2015 14:29:53 GMT
David Cameron missed two Privy Council meetings and took three months to join when he became leader.
I don't remmeber the right wing press making too much of it?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 14:31:01 GMT
Same as they did to farage.....what's good for the goose and all that I agree, although there were some huge swathes of the controlling media bending over backwards to give him a platform to spread his message which has been most unusual for a minority party, unprecedented in fact. It's enough to make you think he was a creation of their own making in order to push the political debate further right. Who are these huge swathes?....apart from the daily express the rest tried to destroy him And that's what they'll do to corbyn because he's upsetting the pig trough |
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Post by Nick1984 on Oct 8, 2015 14:36:15 GMT
Good, I don't agree with his lefty policies, but I agree with the idea of a monarchy even less.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Oct 8, 2015 14:40:10 GMT
David Cameron missed two Privy Council meetings and took three months to join when he became leader. I don't remmeber the right wing press making too much of it? I don't remember him ducking the question of joining though. It's a simple enough thing for Corbyn to sort though, either he says he's going to join or he says that it's something he's against on principle and he's not going to join. I can understand either way. What I don't understand is how a straight talking honest guy keeps ducking the issue and making it into an even bigger talking point when it will have to be decided upon at some point. Reminds me of Ed. |
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Post by salopstick on Oct 8, 2015 14:59:56 GMT
Politics is a game
Politics is about compromise. You compromise certain personal issues and agendas to push others through
He can have his monarchy views but so do the electorate. He is not doing anything to appeal to the electorate
Doomed to fail
He has been in politics long enough but there again he has spent too much time dissenting from the backbenches to truly know the game
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Post by kbillyh on Oct 8, 2015 15:08:53 GMT
I wasn't aware of him constantly "ducking" this question, in fact other than today i've not heard anybody ask it before.
Perhaps it's a case that it's not really an issue other than in the heads of the mischief makers.
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Post by kbillyh on Oct 8, 2015 15:12:02 GMT
Politics is a game Politics is about compromise. You compromise certain personal issues and agendas to push others through He can have his monarchy views but so do the electorate. He is not doing anything to appeal to the electorate Doomed to fail He has been in politics long enough but there again he has spent too much time dissenting from the backbenches to truly know the game Well you're the expert eh Salop. You must be as you've posted virtually the same thing over and over on every single thread that Corbyn has been mentioned in. Unless you're just a bit rattled i couldn't think why you'd want to share this magnificent insight of yours so frequently. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 8, 2015 15:27:53 GMT
David Cameron missed two Privy Council meetings and took three months to join when he became leader. I don't remmeber the right wing press making too much of it? I don't remember him ducking the question of joining though. It's a simple enough thing for Corbyn to sort though, either he says he's going to join or he says that it's something he's against on principle and he's not going to join. I can understand either way. What I don't understand is how a straight talking honest guy keeps ducking the issue and making it into an even bigger talking point when it will have to be decided upon at some point. Reminds me of Ed. He says he's going to join. Very clearly. The right wing press seem to have ommitted this from their reporting. Quite what the use of an arcahic Privvy Council is, is of course an entirely different issue. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:30:27 GMT
I don't remember him ducking the question of joining though. It's a simple enough thing for Corbyn to sort though, either he says he's going to join or he says that it's something he's against on principle and he's not going to join. I can understand either way. What I don't understand is how a straight talking honest guy keeps ducking the issue and making it into an even bigger talking point when it will have to be decided upon at some point. Reminds me of Ed. He says he's going to join. Very clearly. The right wing press seem to have ommitted this from their reporting. Quite what the use of an arcahic Privvy Council is, is of course an entirely different issue. Can't wait to see him bow before OUR QUEEN and kiss her hand.....He will be in pieces inside...TWAT... |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 8, 2015 15:37:46 GMT
He says he's going to join. Very clearly. The right wing press seem to have ommitted this from their reporting. Quite what the use of an arcahic Privvy Council is, is of course an entirely different issue. Can't wait to see him bow before OUR QUEEN and kiss her hand.....He will be in pieces inside...TWAT... Why the fuck would any daft cunt feel obliged to willingly prostate themselves like a serf infront arbitarty accident of birth, thereby 'angin' on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic an' social differences in our society'? |
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Post by kbillyh on Oct 8, 2015 15:38:17 GMT
He says he's going to join. Very clearly. The right wing press seem to have ommitted this from their reporting. Quite what the use of an arcahic Privvy Council is, is of course an entirely different issue. Can't wait to see him bow before OUR QUEEN and kiss her hand.....He will be in pieces inside...TWAT... Wow, you must know him really well to conclude that. Unless of course you've just formed this opinion based on nothing but the lies our media have given you.... no surely this wouldn't be the case because that would make you the "TWAT" wouldn't it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:42:17 GMT
I m a twat through and through, there, do you feel better.
Sorry to say nasty things about your beloved Mr Corbyn. I am sure he will take it all in his stride and behave with dignity and composure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:44:15 GMT
Can't wait to see him bow before OUR QUEEN and kiss her hand.....He will be in pieces inside...TWAT... Why the fuck would any daft cunt feel obliged to willingly prostate themselves like a serf infront arbitarty accident of birth, thereby 'angin' on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic an' social differences in our society'? Because she is the Queen, end of conversation. Like it or lump it, the Monarchy are here to say, regardless of what Corbyn and his deluded worshipers want...Get over it. God Save The Queen...( and her fascist regime) |
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Post by kbillyh on Oct 8, 2015 15:50:27 GMT
I m a twat through and through, there, do you feel better. Sorry to say nasty things about your beloved Mr Corbyn. I am sure he will take it all in his stride and behave with dignity and composure. I'm sure he will.  Now put your spade away and stop digging, silly boy. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 8, 2015 15:51:55 GMT
Why the fuck would any daft cunt feel obliged to willingly prostate themselves like a serf infront arbitarty accident of birth, thereby 'angin' on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic an' social differences in our society'? Because she is the Queen, end of conversation. Like it or lump it, the Monarchy are here to say, regardless of what Corbyn and his deluded worshipers want...Get over it. God Save The Queen...( and her fascist regime) The queen and her dysfunctional family mean absolutely nothing to me. I certainly wouldn't squirm across the floor like a slug just because I'm in her presence and nor should anyone one else. Some daft fuckers about. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:52:28 GMT
I m a twat through and through, there, do you feel better. Sorry to say nasty things about your beloved Mr Corbyn. I am sure he will take it all in his stride and behave with dignity and composure. I'm sure he will. Now put your spade away and stop digging, silly boy. Oh you are funny... Preferred it when you called me a twat though, silly boy is just a little bit condescending ( look it up ). |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:53:51 GMT
Because she is the Queen, end of conversation. Like it or lump it, the Monarchy are here to say, regardless of what Corbyn and his deluded worshipers want...Get over it. God Save The Queen...( and her fascist regime) The queen and her dysfunctional family mean absolutely nothing to me. I certainly wouldn't squirm across the floor like a slug just because I'm in her presence and nor should anyone one else. Some daft fuckers about. Ha Ha Ha...But yr beloved Corbyn is gonna have to...Traitor... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:54:45 GMT
He says he's going to join. Very clearly. The right wing press seem to have ommitted this from their reporting. Quite what the use of an arcahic Privvy Council is, is of course an entirely different issue. Can't wait to see him bow before MY QUEEN and kiss her hand.....He will be in pieces inside...TWAT... amended for you Shanghai to avoid the confusion that you may be speaking on behalf of all of us that's the thing you see, there are many many many people who also don't agree with the monarchy not just Corbyn. it doesn't make you a lefty loony or a commie or any less patriotic towards our nation; it simply means you're not a sheep who follows things simply out of an out of date sense of tradition and displays that you actually have the brains to reason through things yourself. that's exactly the kind of thing we've all been asking Politicians to do for decades isn't it? y'know...move with the times, have opinions that are relevant to the society we live in (where an ever increasing number of people don't want a monarchy any longer..who's there to speak for them until now?), show the ability to change with the times rather than stick to cloying, irrelevant traditions set down by the ruling classes centuries ago to keep the working class down, show that you can have a differing view to the ruling party (a strange notion for the Opposition nowadays granted). strange how if the media don't like him though that suddenly they want to go back to Politicians being archaic sheep who simply follow rules laid down hundreds of years ago in a completely different society than the one we now live in for no other reason than...well, just because so there! it's no different to when they slag off the England team for 3 years then suddenly in World cup year we should expect to just go there and win it........they flip flop all over the place as and when it suits and those that can't see how pathetically transparent the media's agendas are are the problem...not the politcians themselves |
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Post by kbillyh on Oct 8, 2015 15:55:20 GMT
I'm sure he will. Now put your spade away and stop digging, silly boy. Oh you are funny... Preferred it when you called me a twat though, silly boy is just a little bit condescending ( look it up ). You were the one that called somebody a TWAT youth, I implied you were one. There's a difference, look it up.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:56:55 GMT
Can't wait to see him bow before MY QUEEN and kiss her hand.....He will be in pieces inside...TWAT... amended for you Shanghai to avoid the confusion that you may be speaking on behalf of all of us that's the thing you see, there are many many many people who also don't agree with the monarchy not just Corbyn. it doesn't make you a lefty loony or a commie or any less patriotic towards our nation; it simply means you're not a sheep who follows things simply out of an out of date sense of tradition and displays that you actually have the brains to reason through things yourself. that's exactly the kind of thing we've all been asking Politicians to do for decades isn't it? y'know...move with the times, have opinions that are relevant to the society we live in (where an ever increasing number of people don't want a monarchy any longer..who's there to speak for them until now?), show the ability to change with the times rather than stick to cloying, irrelevant traditions set down by the ruling classes centuries ago to keep the working class down, show that you can have a differing view to the ruling party (a strange notion for the Opposition nowadays granted). strange how if the media don't like him though that suddenly they want to go back to Politicians being archaic sheep who simply follow rules laid down hundreds of years ago in a completely different society than the one we now live in for no other reason than...well, just because so there! it's no different to when they slag off the England team for 3 years then suddenly in World cup year we should expect to just go there and win it........they flip flop all over the place as and when it suits and those that can't see how pathetically transparent the media's agendas are are the problem...not the politcians themselves So she is not yr Queen then. Have a quick look in your wallet, take out a note, have a look who's face is on it, and hey presto...She is YOUR QUEEN. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 16:00:25 GMT
amended for you Shanghai to avoid the confusion that you may be speaking on behalf of all of us that's the thing you see, there are many many many people who also don't agree with the monarchy not just Corbyn. it doesn't make you a lefty loony or a commie or any less patriotic towards our nation; it simply means you're not a sheep who follows things simply out of an out of date sense of tradition and displays that you actually have the brains to reason through things yourself. that's exactly the kind of thing we've all been asking Politicians to do for decades isn't it? y'know...move with the times, have opinions that are relevant to the society we live in (where an ever increasing number of people don't want a monarchy any longer..who's there to speak for them until now?), show the ability to change with the times rather than stick to cloying, irrelevant traditions set down by the ruling classes centuries ago to keep the working class down, show that you can have a differing view to the ruling party (a strange notion for the Opposition nowadays granted). strange how if the media don't like him though that suddenly they want to go back to Politicians being archaic sheep who simply follow rules laid down hundreds of years ago in a completely different society than the one we now live in for no other reason than...well, just because so there! it's no different to when they slag off the England team for 3 years then suddenly in World cup year we should expect to just go there and win it........they flip flop all over the place as and when it suits and those that can't see how pathetically transparent the media's agendas are are the problem...not the politcians themselves So she is not yr Queen then. Have a quick look in your wallet, take out a note, have a look who's face is on it, and hey presto...She is YOUR QUEEN. so you ARE saying that we should just accept things we don't agree with simply because we're told to and it's tradition!!!! cracking....let's let the media know shall we? "Oi, tabloids, you know how pretty much the whole of the general public have said how disenchanted they are with politics and how disenfranchised they feel from politicians for the last 3-4 years or so??? ignore all of that now, it's not true, really we want things to just carry on as they were please...ignore the youth of today who are the future of our country, sod what they want and what their belief are. we'll just carry on forcing them to bow down to things they don't believe in or agree with" rewind 5 years, ignore what's gone on since and as you were then...... i've never pledged allegiance to her, sworn any oath to her and she has no real power over anything i do whatsoever in real terms so NO, she is NOT my Queen. she is someone who has a token title that basically means nothing at all and is kept on out of nothing but tradition (hence her having no real powers anymore). simply appearing on a banknote means nothing mate, there are plenty of people/objects that appear on banknotes all over the world; it doesn't make them a ruler, it's simply what picture that country wants to display, nothing more than that. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 16:06:24 GMT
1 thing that is 100% nailed on certainty is that if we held a referendum asking whether to abolish or keep the monarchy it would be a huge landslide to keep. I, and many other ex military on here have sworn allegiance to her, and would happily do it again.
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Post by kbillyh on Oct 8, 2015 16:13:24 GMT
Would you die for your queen?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 8, 2015 16:14:36 GMT
1 thing that is 100% nailed on certainty is that if we held a referendum asking whether to abolish or keep the monarchy it would be a huge landslide to keep. I, and many other ex military on here have sworn allegiance to her, and would happily do it again. You may as well swear allegiance to your garden fence or the moon. It means absolutely fuck all. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 16:17:39 GMT
1 thing that is 100% nailed on certainty is that if we held a referendum asking whether to abolish or keep the monarchy it would be a huge landslide to keep. I, and many other ex military on here have sworn allegiance to her, and would happily do it again. good for you! genuinely (not sarcastically) i mean that. i have NOTHING against people that reason through things and come to their own conclusions as you obviously have in this case....likewise you should have nothing against who have done the same and disagree re: the monarchy should you? isn't that one of the perks of being in a democracy with freedom of speech is all about? like i said, i thought the general public have been crying out for a politician that doesn't just follow the crowd, kow tow to the usual traditions and protocol that all the rest do..someone a bit different who DOES have genuine beliefs and stands up for them. if you would rather have scores of Cameron-alikes then good for you but i'm pretty sure most of the public want their opposition leaders to have differing opinions to the ruling party (kind of like the point of an "Opposition"?) and this is one of those differences. if people buy into this kind of media spin so bloody easily and can't see straight through it, then i'm far more worried about the fact that they have a vote in the first place than i am about someone like Corbyn (who i'm no fan of) actually getting in! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 16:18:08 GMT
God save our gracious Fence,
And save the moon as well, God save them both.
Naaahhhh.
Sounds silly.
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