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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 7, 2015 21:37:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 21:43:26 GMT
I never understood why the bloke that bought him tried numerous times, and failed, to replace him.
One of the best signings this club has ever made at 500k. Sheffield Wednesday fans must be livid.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 7, 2015 21:45:37 GMT
I never understood why the bloke that bought him tried numerous times, and failed, to replace him. One of the best signings this club has ever made at 500k. Sheffield Wednesday fans must be livid. Indeed! I remember he came to us with a bit of a reputation for goalscoring, I know he got 8 in one season for Wednesday but I'd love to know if this defensive rock was there or seen by Wednesday fans back in the day.
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Post by riponstokie on Oct 7, 2015 21:57:48 GMT
Excellent piece about Glen. For me he's the glue that binds us together (never heard that one before!)He is quite simply our rock. Last season and so far this season he has proved invaluable to our team, a real leader and an absolute LEGEND!.
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 7, 2015 22:01:31 GMT
I never understood why the bloke that bought him tried numerous times, and failed, to replace him. One of the best signings this club has ever made at 500k. Sheffield Wednesday fans must be livid. Indeed! I remember he came to us with a bit of a reputation for goalscoring, I know he got 8 in one season for Wednesday but I'd love to know if this defensive rock was there or seen by Wednesday fans back in the day. The fee was so low because he was nearly out of contract at Wednesday, been a fantastic player for us but 8 goals in a season, will it be 2016 or 2017 when he gets to 8 goals for us!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 7, 2015 22:05:27 GMT
Indeed! I remember he came to us with a bit of a reputation for goalscoring, I know he got 8 in one season for Wednesday but I'd love to know if this defensive rock was there or seen by Wednesday fans back in the day. The fee was so low because he was nearly out of contract at Wednesday, been a fantastic player for us but 8 goals in a season, will it be 2016 or 2017 when he gets to 8 goals for us! 17 in 159 for Wednesday 8 in 273 for us!
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Post by tomkinson67 on Oct 7, 2015 22:19:00 GMT
A colossus for us-and has been since the day we brought him.
I dread to think how much it will cost to relace him.
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Post by Linx on Oct 7, 2015 22:32:41 GMT
There were times when I used to despair about Whelan's poor ball retention in TP's midfield. If he was off his game he was really bad. Then he would pull himself together and be much improved for a few games before having another stinker. But he seems to have become consistently good and one of the rocks of the side under Hughes. We suspected it was Nzonzi that was the cause of this improvement; that it was either Le Sulk's ability to create space and time on the ball that took the pressure off Whelan and helped him to read the game better, or just that they complemented each other really well. But the way in which Glenn has played this season would refute that: he's good on his own merits, and in fact has held together a constantly chagning midfield.
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Post by march4 on Oct 7, 2015 22:45:32 GMT
He has been our best player since promotion. He holds the team together and was always the true captain even when Ryan had the armband.
He is the heartbeat that keeps the rest of the team chugging along.
He learned so much from Rory and their partnership was something special. Since Rory left he has taken over the mantle of the main man in midfield and we have undoubtedly benefited. Let's hope Glenn keeps playing to 35 like Rory did.
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 7, 2015 22:58:49 GMT
I think having actual coaches who try to develop players has also helped him improve. He's a fantastic player for us.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 0:33:49 GMT
The fee was so low because he was nearly out of contract at Wednesday, been a fantastic player for us but 8 goals in a season, will it be 2016 or 2017 when he gets to 8 goals for us! 17 in 159 for Wednesday 8 in 273 for us! Not that surprising, a lot of his games for Wednesday were in league 1 whereas most of his games for us have been top-flight, in Tony Pulis teams no less.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 8, 2015 1:23:14 GMT
I never understood why the bloke that bought him tried numerous times, and failed, to replace him. One of the best signings this club has ever made at 500k. Sheffield Wednesday fans must be livid. Indeed! I remember he came to us with a bit of a reputation for goalscoring, I know he got 8 in one season for Wednesday but I'd love to know if this defensive rock was there or seen by Wednesday fans back in the day. It's funny thinking about the player Whelan turned out to be, compared with what we were expecting. The reputation I remember him having was as a dynamic young midfielder with a great range of passing and a thunderbolt of a shot - to be fair with the level Wednesday were at at the time, he probably was - but I was really expecting a cultured all-rounder who could spray the ball about and drive the team forwards. He ended up enduring as the rugged spoiler and ball-winner in front of the defence. And that shouldn't be taken as a negative thing - I doubt Whelan would have had a career at the top level if he'd tried to be the player described above. Credit should perhaps go to TP for spotting the "cage" in him and kickstarting a hugely successful club and international career in that role.
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 8, 2015 7:28:48 GMT
The fee was so low because he was nearly out of contract at Wednesday, been a fantastic player for us but 8 goals in a season, will it be 2016 or 2017 when he gets to 8 goals for us! 17 in 159 for Wednesday 8 in 273 for us! That'll teach me to trust Wikipedia for stats it has 5 in 232 for us and 13 in 142 for the Wendy's. I reckon Whelan is one of those players you won't truly realise how good he was until he's gone.
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Post by foster on Oct 8, 2015 7:31:48 GMT
I'm still not convinced to be honest. I don't know if he's got better this season, or if he just looks better because he's having to cover more for whoever he partners with now that Zonzi's gone.
I always considered him the weak link in midfield prior to this season, but I have to admit that so far he's looked better than in the past so my opinion may change over time.
He's a good pro but I wouldn't go so far as to call him a 'Legend'.
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Post by foster on Oct 8, 2015 7:32:49 GMT
He has been our best player since promotion. He holds the team together and was always the true captain even when Ryan had the armband. He is the heartbeat that keeps the rest of the team chugging along. He learned so much from Rory and their partnership was something special. Since Rory left he has taken over the mantle of the main man in midfield and we have undoubtedly benefited. Let's hope Glenn keeps playing to 35 like Rory did. At no point has he been the best player since promotion. I hope Mama doesn't read your post because he'd be mortified.
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Post by knowles on Oct 8, 2015 7:37:12 GMT
17 in 159 for Wednesday 8 in 273 for us! Not that surprising, a lot of his games for Wednesday were in league 1 whereas most of his games for us have been top-flight, in Tony Pulis teams no less. True, but he's never scored under Hughes, surprisingly. Undervalued player who has had an excellent start to the season.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 8, 2015 7:43:49 GMT
Dunphy has always spouted the biggest amount of poo ever. Cant stand RTE coverage of any football games
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Post by MilanStokie on Oct 8, 2015 8:42:43 GMT
I actually really enjoy repeating this.
If Glenn has a bad game, Stoke usually have a bad game and vice versa. He really is one of the most important cogs in our machine and extremely under-appreciated in the footballing world. We are lucky to have him and is going to be a bugger to replace when the time comes.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 8, 2015 9:12:03 GMT
When you think about how many teams struggle to find a decent holding midfield player , I think we are very lucky to have him , he can have a bad game for sure but in terms of value for money we have had few better and if we lost him it would cost a lot of money to find a better replacement
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2015 9:15:49 GMT
A colossus for us-and has been since the day we brought him. I dread to think how much it will cost to relace him. He's that good he can't tie his own laces?
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Post by roostershair on Oct 8, 2015 9:20:15 GMT
But let's not forget some of the dumb fuckers on here that condemned him a while ago. the man is a steady pro. He never hides if he's having a bad game (just like SJW) and he has made into a brilliant captain. Well done Glen!!!!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2015 9:41:58 GMT
I'm still not convinced to be honest. I don't know if he's got better this season, or if he just looks better because he's having to cover more for whoever he partners with now that Zonzi's gone. I always considered him the weak link in midfield prior to this season, but I have to admit that so far he's looked better than in the past so my opinion may change over time. He's a good pro but I wouldn't go so far as to call him a 'Legend'. I'm with you on this one. I've seen him play very well but I've seen him play bloody awful, too. If he holds the team together, how come we often get overrun in midfield? Is it always his partner's fault? We have looked immeasurably worse in midfield since N'Zonzi left, yet people still claim he offered little: How does that square? I think Glenn is a good, solid pro and has been great value for money but he seems to be exempt from criticism on here! When he has been to blame for goals against us, his overall contribution is stressed; something that doesn't happen for others in the team.
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Oct 8, 2015 9:46:22 GMT
I have always rated Whelan. He is a brilliant reader of the game, and given options, a good passer of the ball as well, knows exactly when to press and when to sit back, tackles well, tidy ball control, what's not to like?
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Post by mattador78 on Oct 8, 2015 9:56:52 GMT
He does the simple stuff well and the un noticable stuff even better, sometimes has poor games but in general most of these poor games have been because hes tried to hard to fill in the gaps and the jobs others havent been doing. Without turning this into a pulisathon the core of solid dependable pros like whelan tommy sjw and delap laid solid foundations for this club to build for the future and push on glenn more than ever at the forfront. Legend is word to be saved for a select few maybe glenn will get there but he will always be a club icon and remembered fondly when his time is up here. Ps noticed on twitter his mrs has a hell of a lot do with rooneys mrs never saw that in glenns image
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Post by londonstokie17 on Oct 8, 2015 9:57:24 GMT
When he retires they should replace the Faye poster with a picture of Whelan and his customary wrist tape two fists clenched screaming with joy. Stoke City legend in my opinion. Not many players stay at one club as long as he and shawcross have. OUR ONLY 2 survivors of the promotion season I believe. How far they and the club have come together. Long may they both continue.
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Oct 8, 2015 10:04:31 GMT
I'm still not convinced to be honest. I don't know if he's got better this season, or if he just looks better because he's having to cover more for whoever he partners with now that Zonzi's gone. I always considered him the weak link in midfield prior to this season, but I have to admit that so far he's looked better than in the past so my opinion may change over time. He's a good pro but I wouldn't go so far as to call him a 'Legend'. I'm with you on this one. I've seen him play very well but I've seen him play bloody awful, too. If he holds the team together, how come we often get overrun in midfield? Is it always his partner's fault? We have looked immeasurably worse in midfield since N'Zonzi left, yet people still claim he offered little: How does that square? I think Glenn is a good, solid pro and has been great value for money but he seems to be exempt from criticism on here! When he has been to blame for goals against us, his overall contribution is stressed; something that doesn't happen for others in the team. Exempt from criticism, Whelan,??,you obviously have only been a recent visitor to this board.
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 8, 2015 10:08:26 GMT
With Glenn getting entering the twilight of his career, I really hope that the management & scouting team are searching high and low for the next player to fill his boots, because he really is that important to our side. The way he breaks up play & covers the fullbacks when the advance forward goes unnoticed by many but is vital to our game plan.
For me, he is one of the most underrated players in the league, just watch us when he doesn't play, we don't look anywhere near as solid and invariably struggle.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Oct 8, 2015 10:09:28 GMT
I never understood why the bloke that bought him tried numerous times, and failed, to replace him. One of the best signings this club has ever made at 500k. Sheffield Wednesday fans must be livid. I'm not sure he tried to replace him. He bought in other Centre Mids, but he always had a thing for 2 in the cage. When ever Glenn came back into the side, he made us tick. He was integral in our run to the cup final and the dazzling form of spring 2011 - he picked up the bits and fed Matty and JP.
From memory, Tone went after Glenn in the summer of 2007, but Wednesday wanted a million. He baulked at the price and went back again in the January window and got his man for £500,000. A player who has taken the step up to The Premier League in his stride. Really solid pro and still under rated in my opinion. He's got a great strike that we seldom see.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 8, 2015 10:53:58 GMT
I'm with you on this one. I've seen him play very well but I've seen him play bloody awful, too. If he holds the team together, how come we often get overrun in midfield? Is it always his partner's fault? We have looked immeasurably worse in midfield since N'Zonzi left, yet people still claim he offered little: How does that square? I think Glenn is a good, solid pro and has been great value for money but he seems to be exempt from criticism on here! When he has been to blame for goals against us, his overall contribution is stressed; something that doesn't happen for others in the team. Exempt from criticism, Whelan,??,you obviously have only been a recent visitor to this board. About 5 years. I think the criticism is minimal in comparison to others. Not knocking Glenn for that; just wish people were more even handed.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Oct 8, 2015 11:04:11 GMT
Any Stoke City or Ireland supporter that questions Glenn Whelan's role and importance doesn't understand football.
He's been consistently good for the duration of his time here, littered with spells of brilliance. Yeah, he might have had a few spells of being a bit off his game but nobody human could play 250 odd games to the absolute best of their ability.
And I disagree with Foster. Glenn certainly is a legend.
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