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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 6, 2015 21:30:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 0:55:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 1:00:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 1:02:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 5:06:07 GMT
For once, she got it spot on........pity she doesn't mean a word of it, as the only way she could sort it would mean leaving the EU and we all know the Tories and the Labour Party are the Brussels boys lackies
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 7, 2015 5:40:18 GMT
For once, she got it spot on........pity she doesn't mean a word of it, as the only way she could sort it would mean leaving the EU and we all know the Tories and the Labour Party are the Brussels boys lackies Let's see how the current refugee crisis focuses their attention
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 5:49:52 GMT
For once, she got it spot on........pity she doesn't mean a word of it, as the only way she could sort it would mean leaving the EU and we all know the Tories and the Labour Party are the Brussels boys lackies Let's see how the current refugee crisis focuses their attention She had the same job in the last government.......how did she do sorting it then?
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 7, 2015 6:11:16 GMT
She's grandstanding. Letting folk know there is an alternative to Osbourne. In the "Tories for Dummies" manual the section on charming a conference audience says focus on one of three things; immigrants, scroungers or loony lefties. (Of course, Labour for Dummies is equally facile albeit in different topics). Interesting, by the way, that the poll (and remember this is the Telegraph) says 62% of folk thought her speech was irresponsible. I reckon that's about right. The Tory leadership race is going to be interesting; BoJo, Gideon, May... Who else?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 6:45:06 GMT
She's grandstanding. Letting folk know there is an alternative to Osbourne. In the "Tories for Dummies" manual the section on charming a conference audience says focus on one of three things; immigrants, scroungers or loony lefties. (Of course, Labour for Dummies is equally facile albeit in different topics). Interesting, by the way, that the poll (and remember this is the Telegraph) says 62% of folk thought her speech was irresponsible. I reckon that's about right. The Tory leadership race is going to be interesting; BoJo, Gideon, May... Who else? It's also worth remembering how hated she was by the police when she took over her job but she's certainly got the measure of the situation . I think several years of free access to Police investigations and tactics to address terrorism, Paedophile cases , grooming and slavery by our Muslim brothers has taught her a lot and has been a massive wake up call. Most fair minded people would appreciate the same , but sadly not everyone is blessed with a brain .
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Post by Northy on Oct 7, 2015 6:58:32 GMT
Oh no she doesn't .....
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 7, 2015 11:02:56 GMT
Another mendacious harpy in a vile party chock full of bigots, racists, tax avoiders and people motivated by greed and greed alone.
A plague on them all.
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Post by stokeharry on Oct 7, 2015 11:04:27 GMT
She's grandstanding. Letting folk know there is an alternative to Osbourne. In the "Tories for Dummies" manual the section on charming a conference audience says focus on one of three things; immigrants, scroungers or loony lefties. (Of course, Labour for Dummies is equally facile albeit in different topics). Interesting, by the way, that the poll (and remember this is the Telegraph) says 62% of folk thought her speech was irresponsible. I reckon that's about right. The Tory leadership race is going to be interesting; BoJo, Gideon, May... Who else? It's also worth remembering how hated she was by the police when she took over her job but she's certainly got the measure of the situation . I think several years of free access to Police investigations and tactics to address terrorism, Paedophile cases , grooming and slavery by our Muslim brothers has taught her a lot and has been a massive wake up call. Most fair minded people would appreciate the same , but sadly not everyone is blessed with a brain . Got to admit she's spot on with this one
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 7, 2015 11:32:42 GMT
She's grandstanding. Letting folk know there is an alternative to Osbourne. In the "Tories for Dummies" manual the section on charming a conference audience says focus on one of three things; immigrants, scroungers or loony lefties. (Of course, Labour for Dummies is equally facile albeit in different topics). Interesting, by the way, that the poll (and remember this is the Telegraph) says 62% of folk thought her speech was irresponsible. I reckon that's about right. The Tory leadership race is going to be interesting; BoJo, Gideon, May... Who else? It's also worth remembering how hated she was by the police when she took over her job but she's certainly got the measure of the situation . I think several years of free access to Police investigations and tactics to address terrorism, Paedophile cases , grooming and slavery by our Muslim brothers has taught her a lot and has been a massive wake up call. Most fair minded people would appreciate the same , but sadly not everyone is blessed with a brain . I think you'd find it tough to argue that the Director General of the Institute of Directors doesn't have a brain. Here's what he had to say...
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 7, 2015 11:38:04 GMT
Another mendacious harpy in a vile party chock full of bigots, racists, tax avoiders and people motivated by greed and greed alone. A plague on them all. Theresa May's in the Labour Party?!!!
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Post by redstriper on Oct 7, 2015 11:53:27 GMT
For once, she got it spot on........pity she doesn't mean a word of it, as the only way she could sort it would mean leaving the EU and we all know the Tories and the Labour Party are the Brussels boys lackies but it's not just about the EU. Net Immigration from the rest of the world was a record 272k last year, and the tories have no excuse for failure over the past five years on that score. And of course all of this only counts official figures, there's hundreds of thousands more who are here illegally. They need to stop talking about it and start doing something effective.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 11:57:05 GMT
I think you'd find it tough to argue that the Director General of the Institute of Directors doesn't have a brain. Here's what he had to say... The problem is people high up in businesses are going to be a lot more pro-immigration than everyone else because they're the ones who see all the benefits. It's like this rhetoric that Cameron kept repeating over the last few years "immigration brings a net profit to Britain" (which now seems to have not been true anyway?) but even if that was the case, you can guarantee that profit is going to <1% of the population whilst it has a negative impact on everyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 12:05:13 GMT
For once, she got it spot on........pity she doesn't mean a word of it, as the only way she could sort it would mean leaving the EU and we all know the Tories and the Labour Party are the Brussels boys lackies but it's not just about the EU. Net Immigration from the rest of the world was a record 272k last year, and the tories have no excuse for failure over the past five years on that score. And of course all of this only counts official figures, there's hundreds of thousands more who are here illegally. They need to stop talking about it and start doing something effective. It's no good shutting the front door if you're going to leave the back door open tho I don't believe in penalising the rest of the world because we have our hands tied over europe Quality not quantity May was talking of Europeans when she mentioned changing certain laws that would discourage them. its a little play the Tories are acting out........many will fall for the shit sadly
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Post by salopstick on Oct 7, 2015 12:13:51 GMT
Another mendacious harpy in a vile party chock full of bigots, racists, tax avoiders and people motivated by greed and greed alone. A plague on them all. You could be talking about the Labour Party there
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Post by thevoid on Oct 7, 2015 12:17:23 GMT
For what it's worth, here's my two-penneth.
I have no problem whatsoever with controlled immigration, similar to something that really small country called Australia employs. My ancestors themselves came here from Ireland.
There have been a lot of immigrants, especially from the Commonwealth countries (that has nothing to do with EU free-movement) who have made a worthwhile contribution to this country, for example, in the medical profession. There is positive immigration, only a rabid white supremacist would suggest otherwise.
However, whilst we are tied to the EU, we have little or no say in the negative immigration we are seeing now. We have to refuse entry to good people like the Ghurkas, who (perhaps misguidedly) have a loyalty and affinity to this country, because we are obliged, by being in the EU, to take in petty criminals from the likes of Romania and Slovakia (I'm not saying they're ALL like that of course).
Yes, some people, such as the Poles, come over to work hard, and maybe that's something that could continue (in sensible numbers) should we leave the EU, just like the Irish who came here to work. But for every hard-working Pole, there's a Romanian who wants to steal (not that the we should describe them as looking Romanian for fear of being racist according to some on here).
There was a documentary on C4 (not renowned for it's right-wing output, remember the scaremongering docu-drama about UKIP winning the election?) the other week which followed a bunch of Roma as they arrived here. They were bragging about shoplifting as soon as they arrived. Is that the kind of immigrant we want here rather than the likes of the Ghurkas?
The immigration debate is, no pun intended, not black and white.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 12:24:19 GMT
Anyone one who believes a word of those fuckers want locking up
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 7, 2015 12:41:14 GMT
Another mendacious harpy in a vile party chock full of bigots, racists, tax avoiders and people motivated by greed and greed alone. A plague on them all. You could be talking about the Labour Party there Or the EE board on the Oatcake.
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 7, 2015 12:46:10 GMT
She's a right wing Tory, she's made a twat of herself, how is that wrong? Personally I think brilliant, the more she makes a twat of herself tte better...
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Post by thevoid on Oct 7, 2015 12:51:32 GMT
She's a right wing Tory, she's made a twat of herself, how is that wrong? Personally I think brilliant, the more she makes a twat of herself tte better... She's still got some catching up to do with Red Jezza on the twat front. At least she hasn't pencilled in lunch with Sinn Fein yet.
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 7, 2015 12:55:27 GMT
I think you'd find it tough to argue that the Director General of the Institute of Directors doesn't have a brain. Here's what he had to say... The problem is people high up in businesses are going to be a lot more pro-immigration than everyone else because they're the ones who see all the benefits. It's like this rhetoric that Cameron kept repeating over the last few years "immigration brings a net profit to Britain" (which now seems to have not been true anyway?) but even if that was the case, you can guarantee that profit is going to <1% of the population whilst it has a negative impact on everyone else. This is the traditional sceptical trade union view of Europe - the EU is a rich boys club of the decadent capitalist west. Not a view endorsed by the Labour Party in the past 30 years, so it's a little unfair to blame it all on Cameron.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 7, 2015 13:00:00 GMT
She's a right wing Tory, she's made a twat of herself, how is that wrong? Personally I think brilliant, the more she makes a twat of herself tte better... She's still got some catching up to do with Red Jezza on the twat front. At least she hasn't pencilled in lunch with Sinn Fein yet. No, John Major and others did that years ago and thank fuck they did.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 7, 2015 13:16:16 GMT
She's still got some catching up to do with Red Jezza on the twat front. At least she hasn't pencilled in lunch with Sinn Fein yet. No, John Major and others did that years ago and thank fuck they did. Exactly, Major was PM and played a significant part in the peace process. A completely different scenario than an IRA fanboy like Corbyn meeting his heroes shortly after the Brighton bombings.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 7, 2015 13:20:32 GMT
No, John Major and others did that years ago and thank fuck they did. Exactly, Major was PM and played a significant part in the peace process. A completely different scenario than an IRA fanboy like Corbyn meeting his heroes shortly after the Brighton bombings. Of course, he met them to plan their next atrocity and a chorus of Come Out, Ye Black and Tans. It seems these dumb fuck Tory's really will swallow anything.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 7, 2015 13:36:22 GMT
Exactly, Major was PM and played a significant part in the peace process. A completely different scenario than an IRA fanboy like Corbyn meeting his heroes shortly after the Brighton bombings. Of course, he met them to plan their next atrocity and a chorus of Come Out, Ye Black and Tans. It seems these dumb fuck Tory's really will swallow anything. And, just like clockwork, here comes the abuse. It's all academic anyway, they could have made spoons for all I care, I'd never vote for the man or his party full stop. Anyway, haven't we wandered slightly off-topic?
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Oct 7, 2015 13:41:50 GMT
No, John Major and others did that years ago and thank fuck they did. Exactly, Major was PM and played a significant part in the peace process. A completely different scenario than an IRA fanboy like Corbyn meeting his heroes shortly after the Brighton bombings. Well tell that to Michael Oatley MI5 Officer based in Derry/Londonderry who was in constant contact with Republicans ( McGuiness in particular) even a few days AFTER Enniskillen... Planned by PIRA Northern Command whose seven man Army Council was led by McGuiness. Unlike Corbyn/Livingstone the Conservative Govt said one thing in public ( No talking to terrorists) but the opposite in private. The Conservative Govt of the 1980s were in constant contact/talks with PIRA via MI5 and RUC Special Branch.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 7, 2015 13:58:46 GMT
She's a right wing Tory, she's made a twat of herself, how is that wrong? Personally I think brilliant, the more she makes a twat of herself tte better... Irony 101 Again
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