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Post by loosestools on Oct 6, 2015 18:36:21 GMT
Will Ryan automatically be Captain upon his return? How will that affect Glen W because he has been brilliant?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Oct 6, 2015 18:52:29 GMT
Don't think it will affect Glenn in the slightest.
Ryan is the skipper and Whelan has been a superb deputy but we all know he'll carry on churning out the same consistent performances.
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Post by malteser68 on Oct 6, 2015 18:54:56 GMT
No issue at all
We have a great captain and a great vice captain to step in when needed
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 6, 2015 19:06:26 GMT
It won't be an issue.
Ryan is the captain.
Whelan is next in line.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Oct 6, 2015 19:21:56 GMT
Since when has being captain become a big thing?
It's a ceremonial role and nothing more. It's not like cricket or rugby when they make big decisions.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Oct 6, 2015 19:33:48 GMT
Post Xmas Hughes and Co will be piloting the Multiple Captaincy Approach.
Ryan will be defensive Captain, Glenn midfield, Arnie attacking Captain.
There is some debate whether to appoint Jack as Goal Captain because Shay is pissed off about that.
They will each take on duties throughout the matchday experience.
They will organize a rota of 15 minute intervals when it is their turn to give out bollockings, get in the ref's face and have tactical disputes on the touchline with the Marks.
Pre match they will toss a coin to see who tosses the coin.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 19:41:27 GMT
Won't affect Whelan, he's stood in before. He knows the drill.
Similarly though, nothing should stop Ryan getting the armband back.
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Post by murphthesurf on Oct 6, 2015 20:05:16 GMT
Won't affect Whelan, he's stood in before. He knows the drill. Similarly though, nothing should stop Ryan getting the armband back.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 20:20:23 GMT
Ryan is the club captain so when he plays he's captain as it should be.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 6, 2015 22:29:58 GMT
Waste of energy how British people obsess about captaincy. It isn't really that important. Other countries just have the oldest player or a popular player.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 6, 2015 22:33:17 GMT
Waste of energy how British people obsess about captaincy. It isn't really that important. Other countries just have the oldest player or a popular player. Is that strictly true? I know at Barcelona they have a captain, vice-captain and then 2 more after that. Which seems pretty serious to me. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 6, 2015 22:46:01 GMT
Waste of energy how British people obsess about captaincy. It isn't really that important. Other countries just have the oldest player or a popular player. Is that strictly true? I know at Barcelona they have a captain, vice-captain and then 2 more after that. Which seems pretty serious to me. In Italy it's just a figurehead role. Gascoigne skippered Lazio once. The England captaincy particularly is all about media generating hype and stories. It's an honour to be captain but it's inconsequential. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 6, 2015 22:47:47 GMT
Is that strictly true? I know at Barcelona they have a captain, vice-captain and then 2 more after that. Which seems pretty serious to me. In Italy it's just a figurehead role. Gascoigne skippered Lazio once. The England captaincy particularly is all about media generating hype and stories. It's an honour to be captain but it's inconsequential. I don't think it is. I think a real leader as captain can make a side that little better and captaincy can make some players that little better too. |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Oct 6, 2015 22:51:38 GMT
The captain is usually the best leader of men and in our case there's no dispute that Ryan is just this.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 6, 2015 22:58:31 GMT
what question , Glen has done brilliant but Ryan is the captain
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Post by superstokiesimo on Oct 6, 2015 23:09:56 GMT
Can only repeat the above about Ryan coming back.
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Oct 10, 2015 20:48:04 GMT
Ryan is club captain so he will return as captain. Glenn Whelan has done a fantastic job in Ryans absence and it wouldnt matter whether whelan was captain or not he would still perform consistently as he always does
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 20:51:49 GMT
Whelan will probably be happy that he can go straight to the shower. There are several captains on the pitch but only 1 holds the title.
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Post by potterpaul on Oct 10, 2015 22:17:51 GMT
It will allow Glen to focus on building an understanding and partnership with VG.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 11, 2015 1:58:50 GMT
Anyone can be the leader, irrespective of who wears the armband.
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Oct 11, 2015 3:35:32 GMT
Post Xmas Hughes and Co will be piloting the Multiple Captaincy Approach. Ryan will be defensive Captain, Glenn midfield, Arnie attacking Captain. There is some debate whether to appoint Jack as Goal Captain because Shay is pissed off about that. They will each take on duties throughout the matchday experience. They will organize a rota of 15 minute intervals when it is their turn to give out bollockings, get in the ref's face and have tactical disputes on the touchline with the Marks. Pre match they will toss a coin to see who tosses the coin. What absolute bollocks......if this doesn't happen don't bother coming back on the board, I'm not claiming to be in the know but I was told Woy has the copyright on that format so no chance it will happen, let's see if I'm right. |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 11, 2015 18:17:18 GMT
Since when has being captain become a big thing? It's a ceremonial role and nothing more. It's not like cricket or rugby when they make big decisions. That's no longer the case, because the captain has a specific right to talk to the referee and 2 or more players surrounding the referee is now a breach of rule. So it can be a vital role and it's one Shawcross has developed well. Whenever there is an on-field incident or issue, he's there speaking to the ref. |
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 11, 2015 18:28:48 GMT
Will Ryan automatically be Captain upon his return? How will that affect Glen W because he has been brilliant? Trouble maker |
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Post by Squeekster on Oct 11, 2015 18:38:44 GMT
Spoke to Ryan at M&S car park on Friday at Wolstanton says he won't be back as soon as some think!
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 11, 2015 18:43:34 GMT
Why is it vice captain?
Is he the person responsible for the dodgy videos on the team bus? Does he smuggle in the porn for over night stays?
We need to know.
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Post by loosestools on Oct 12, 2015 17:19:29 GMT
Will Ryan automatically be Captain upon his return? How will that affect Glen W because he has been brilliant? Trouble maker No intention of being a trouble maker here, but the sentiments and thoughts seem to be that it is and always will be Ryan's job without question, so when he comes back he automatically jumps straight back into the role. I just wondered 'what if' i Glen wanted to keep the captaincy as a senior player who has stepped up the mark and baled us out of the shit, will it nark him or will (presume) he will be absolutely fine about it. Just sharing my thoughts with other Oaties. |
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Post by hartzchoco on Oct 12, 2015 19:24:05 GMT
This is Ryan's squad, plain and simple. Missing some time due to back problems doesn't change that.
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Post by Stokeontrent on Oct 13, 2015 7:04:14 GMT
all clubs have a captian and vice, vice to step in when captain isnt avaliable. Simple
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Post by foster on Oct 13, 2015 9:23:46 GMT
all clubs have a captian and vice, vice to step in when captain isnt avaliable. Simple As simple as writing a proper sentence. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 14:07:16 GMT
No intention of being a trouble maker here, but the sentiments and thoughts seem to be that it is and always will be Ryan's job without question, so when he comes back he automatically jumps straight back into the role. I just wondered 'what if' i Glen wanted to keep the captaincy as a senior player who has stepped up the mark and baled us out of the shit, will it nark him or will (presume) he will be absolutely fine about it. Just sharing my thoughts with other Oaties. he didn't "Step up to the mark" and bail us out of shit though did he? he did his job as vice-captain..that's what he's there for in that regard! he's vice-captain so automatically fills in when the captain isn't on the pitch. Ryan is club captain so is automatically captain when he is on the pitch....they're designated roles attributed to them. it's like asking a Deputy Headmaster if they get pissed off when the Headteacher comes back after being off sick...it's not like Hughes asked the team to volunteer and Glenn put his hand up first; he was vice-captain already...the only way he would have been pissed off is if Hughes had ignored the fact that Glenn was vice-captain and picked someone else instead. possibly the most confusing thread i've seen for ages on here to be honest (in terms of why is it even a thread???) |
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