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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 7, 2015 20:18:30 GMT
I do think people need to realise that it is ok sometimes to pass the ball backwards and sideways. It can't always go forwards, and it isn't always the fault of the player doing it that it goes that way. I know that. However, for a long time backwards or sideways was N'zonzi first and second instinct and forwards was a distant third. Anyway, this is all water under the bridge and we need to move forward (pun intended!). I think that's a myth to be honest. He could occasionally frustrate when he turned back but he never looked anything less than a dramatic step up from the players we'd had in central midfield for a good 10-15 years at least from his first game for the club, IMO.
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 7, 2015 20:23:40 GMT
I know that. However, for a long time backwards or sideways was N'zonzi first and second instinct and forwards was a distant third. Anyway, this is all water under the bridge and we need to move forward (pun intended!). I think that's a myth to be honest. He could occasionally frustrate when he turned back but he never looked anything less than a dramatic step up from the players we'd had in central midfield for a good 10-15 years at least from his first game for the club, IMO. The signing of Bojan was a turning point for nzonzi . He finally had a player along side who could bring out the best in him
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 7, 2015 20:36:00 GMT
I think that's a myth to be honest. He could occasionally frustrate when he turned back but he never looked anything less than a dramatic step up from the players we'd had in central midfield for a good 10-15 years at least from his first game for the club, IMO. The signing of Bojan was a turning point for nzonzi . He finally had a player along side who could bring out the best in him He was comfortably one of our best players in each of the seasons before we signed Bojan.
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Post by skip on Oct 7, 2015 21:52:47 GMT
I think that's a myth to be honest. He could occasionally frustrate when he turned back but he never looked anything less than a dramatic step up from the players we'd had in central midfield for a good 10-15 years at least from his first game for the club, IMO. The signing of Bojan was a turning point for nzonzi . He finally had a player along side who could bring out the best in him I hoped the arrival of Bojan, and Arnie, would be the calibre of player to convince N'nonzi to stay. C'est la vie.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 7, 2015 22:13:52 GMT
I think that's a myth to be honest. He could occasionally frustrate when he turned back but he never looked anything less than a dramatic step up from the players we'd had in central midfield for a good 10-15 years at least from his first game for the club, IMO. The signing of Bojan was a turning point for nzonzi . He finally had a player along side who could bring out the best in him I thought he had his best 1/2 season after Bojan was injured.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 7, 2015 23:26:54 GMT
So are you saying MVG is that man? Because I think he is/was as much as I don't want to because here we are still not happy. And with the prospect of Cameron taking up the mantle with Adam having a go too. As someone who loves a simple footballer who glides across the pitch (N'Zonzi) this scares the absolute shit out of me (and I'm saying doing badly or whatever) I just mean in terms of ball retention and them losing the thing whilst under pressure. No I don't think he is that man, or designed to be that man. I think that was something separate that dropped on Hughes' lap with the Begovic deal (A secondary name to Moses who was number 1 target and turned us down?) and, as he has admitted in the press, thinks he is a good player having tried to sign him previously. My gut feeling is they are after Sergi Roberto and are waiting for either the price to drop or the player to consider joining us...or whatever reason the delay could be. If it will happen at all. The Jedinak move is a puzzler because it doesn't fit any type of profile other than "Shit we might lose Walters and we need a big character...who can we get?"....and even then it raises more questions than answers. The bigger puzzler is Cattermole. The tub thumping, aggressive ball winner that has seemingly dropped totally off the radar and is now no longer a requirement in the make up of the team/squad? It seems like we wanted him, couldn't get him and can't find another of that type of player anywhere, or suddenly don't require that type of player at all. Possibly, I'm genuinely not sure as it happens. Sometimes I think MVG was the man he wanted and then others I don't and he was a plan B/fall in the lap option. Sergi Roberto currently is impressing at right back......how long that lasts for I don't know but the Barca fans I follow on Twatter really like him there. I don't like Cattermole one bit. I think he was probably earmarked to replace Whelan but I'd hope we could do better.
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