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Post by superstokiesimo on Oct 5, 2015 11:44:42 GMT
Some ungrateful sods on here
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 5, 2015 11:45:24 GMT
To be fair - we're judging it after an away defeat. It will be a very different message board next time they win. Now there's a curious thing. Very few (i.e. none) links appear on this messageboard when whoever he manages is doing well. Very strange, can't work it out myself.
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Post by Bick on Oct 5, 2015 11:51:29 GMT
To be fair - we're judging it after an away defeat. It will be a very different message board next time they win. Now there's a curious thing. Very few (i.e. none) links appear on this messageboard when whoever he manages is doing well. Very strange, can't work it out myself. Shush now, you'll unearth the TP conspiracy.
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Post by foster on Oct 5, 2015 11:56:58 GMT
Fuck me what a plethora of penae (multiple peniseses) we find here.
We won Saturday you know
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 12:10:14 GMT
Some fanzines have a message board dedicated to "Arguing about former managers". Worth doing on the Oatcake? I thought it was the whole purpose of the Oatcake!
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Post by superstokiesimo on Oct 5, 2015 12:51:20 GMT
Manager's come and go, I support Stoke not the manager. But this is shameful. Even those that hated the football should respect him
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Post by BristolMick on Oct 5, 2015 12:54:50 GMT
I don't understand why some dislike him still after he's left the club. The negative thing was his approach to games, and I can understand people disliking that but the rest aside from that was good stuff. In every other regard things were fantastic as a fan of the club. When it comes to Pulis he's one of the best in his field, the kind of manager who can be trusted to come in and sort a dressing room out, bring in players with a solid, dependable character and turn a club around. That may very well be the limit of his abilities but at Stoke at least, he had earned the right by getting us promoted to be given the chance and time to see if he could also move on to that next level and become a manager who built teams with ambition to push on. It didn't work with us, instead we were left with some tremendous foundations to build upon. Don't be daft, he's shit, every single game was an atrocity and he's a total wanker as well. I read it on and often in The Oatcake. That's not quite true Momo there were about half a dozen games in the 10 years that were ok and a further 2 or 3 that were brilliant but apart from that you are correct. BM
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 5, 2015 12:55:56 GMT
Manager's come and go, I support Stoke not the manager. But this is shameful. Even those that hated the football should respect him Why? He didn't respect us.
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Post by superstokiesimo on Oct 5, 2015 13:14:31 GMT
Manager's come and go, I support Stoke not the manager. But this is shameful. Even those that hated the football should respect him Why? Â He didn't respect us. Keeping in the premier league is a pretty good reason. Doesn't matter anyway now. He's gone
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 13:17:35 GMT
Why? Â He didn't respect us. Keeping in the premier league is a pretty good reason. Doesn't matter anyway now. He's gone I think Pugsley was referring to the way he celebrated his side scoring a goal against a) his former club and b) 11 men against 9 the other week at the Brit, after he was given a very generous reception. I think it's known in football circles as the shithouse Alan Pardew trick.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 5, 2015 13:20:50 GMT
I think this thread once and for all confirms who the mental obsessives are. Congratulations wankstains.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 13:28:55 GMT
I think this thread once and for all confirms who the mental obsessives are. Congratulations wankstains. I think Tony Scholes is fucking ace and does a great Job. GD
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Post by thevoid on Oct 5, 2015 13:29:56 GMT
Keeping in the premier league is a pretty good reason. Doesn't matter anyway now. He's gone I think Pugsley was referring to the way he celebrated his side scoring a goal against a) his former club and b) 11 men against 9 the other week at the Brit, after he was given a very generous reception. I think it's known in football circles as the shithouse Alan Pardew trick. Or maybe him possibly using results to prove a point to the board re: spending (Binary season and his last season spring to mind). Oh, and he had a dig at the club when he took the Bristol City job.
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Post by Skankmonkey on Oct 5, 2015 13:43:41 GMT
If this gets to 23 pages now, after I said things were calming down, I'm going to look like a bit of a plonker aren't I. Fair enough!
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Post by Skankmonkey on Oct 5, 2015 13:46:08 GMT
Some fanzines have a message board dedicated to "Arguing about former managers". Worth doing on the Oatcake? Might need a bigger internet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 13:46:34 GMT
I think Pugsley was referring to the way he celebrated his side scoring a goal against a) his former club and b) 11 men against 9 the other week at the Brit, after he was given a very generous reception. I think it's known in football circles as the shithouse Alan Pardew trick. Oh, and he had a dig at the club when he took the Bristol City job. Did he? Interesting. Care to share this latest piece of fresh evidence? I could always do with a fresh bomb or two to add to the battery.
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Post by Skankmonkey on Oct 5, 2015 13:51:46 GMT
Fuck me what a conclave of cunts we find here. We won Saturday you know. Another quality phrase! I'll try and use that next time I go on the EE. It's the sort of banter they seem to appreciate. <smiley>
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 5, 2015 13:51:51 GMT
I think Pugsley was referring to the way he celebrated his side scoring a goal against a) his former club and b) 11 men against 9 the other week at the Brit, after he was given a very generous reception. I think it's known in football circles as the shithouse Alan Pardew trick. Or maybe him possibly using results to prove a point to the board re: spending (Binary season and his last season spring to mind). Oh, and he had a dig at the club when he took the Bristol City job. All of the above.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 14:08:10 GMT
Oh, and he had a dig at the club when he took the Bristol City job. Did he? Interesting. Care to share this latest piece of fresh evidence? I could always do with a fresh bomb or two to add to the battery. From memory, Coates approached him at the same time as Bristol City also wanted him. He went to Bristol and said something along the lines of they had more ambition. I think it was when we ended up appointing Megson.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 5, 2015 14:18:36 GMT
I think this thread once and for all confirms who the mental obsessives are. Congratulations wankstains. I think Tony Scholes is fucking ace and does a great Job. GDÂ In terms of keeping sofa bound alcoholics firmly in their sofa, he's amongst the very, very best. I'll give you that
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Oct 5, 2015 14:19:19 GMT
Fuck me what a plethora of penae (multiple peniseses) we find here. We won Saturday you know Agree with the sentiment, but would have thought it was penii?
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Post by superstokiesimo on Oct 5, 2015 14:23:39 GMT
Keeping in the premier league is a pretty good reason. Doesn't matter anyway now. He's gone I think Pugsley was referring to the way he celebrated his side scoring a goal against a) his former club and b) 11 men against 9 the other week at the Brit, after he was given a very generous reception. I think it's known in football circles as the shithouse Alan Pardew trick. He wants to win games. What the fuck do you expect???
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Post by werrington on Oct 5, 2015 14:36:12 GMT
Oh, and he had a dig at the club when he took the Bristol City job. Did he? Interesting. Care to share this latest piece of fresh evidence? I could always do with a fresh bomb or two to add to the battery. Said Bristol City were the bigger club
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 5, 2015 14:47:03 GMT
They are deluded, how many away games did they win before, they have won two this season already, and were playing one of the form teams in the division. Why deluded? Winning isn't everything. If it's shit to watch then people will moan irrespective. We each speak for ourselves, but for me, when it comes to Stoke City, it IS all about winning, or rather it's all about points - getting as many as possible. I would rather see a stalemate 0-0 than an exciting 4-3 defeat any day of the week. I thought TP did a tremendous job at Stoke, getting us up, keeping us up, keeping us mid-table ish; taking us to the Cup Final and through that to a European tour which I loved. He left us and the season after deservedly won the PL manager of the season. But he was replaced by a manager who got us our highest ever points total in the PL - brilliant. In short, I'm strongly pro-TP; strongly pro-LMH; strongly pro-Stoke City and strongly pro our chairman who, in recent years at least, has shown that he is very good at picking managers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 15:19:07 GMT
Why deluded? Winning isn't everything. If it's shit to watch then people will moan irrespective. We each speak for ourselves, but for me, when it comes to Stoke City, it IS all about winning, or rather it's all about points - getting as many as possible. I would rather see a stalemate 0-0 than an exciting 4-3 defeat any day of the week. I thought TP did a tremendous job at Stoke, getting us up, keeping us up, keeping us mid-table ish; taking us to the Cup Final and through that to a European tour which I loved. He left us and the season after deservedly won the PL manager of the season. But he was replaced by a manager who got us our highest ever points total in the PL - brilliant. In short, I'm strongly pro-TP; strongly pro-LMH; strongly pro-Stoke City and strongly pro our chairman who, in recent years at least, has shown that he is very good at picking managers. As a one-off, we'd all prefer a 0-0 to any kind of defeat, but for me attempting to win with one set-piece then surrendering possession to the opposition to keep them out for the rest of the match was utterly depressing. For some of us, football is meant to be an entertainment. I suspect it's the same for the majority of football fans all over the world, and that's why it's the most popular sport in the world. I genuinely got to the point where I was walking to the ground with the same enthusiasm as I walk to work on a Monday morning - believe me, that's not very enthusiastically at all. I'd probably got one more season in me before I jacked it in, and that's after suffering everything the club had chucked at us for the past 40 years. I could put up with it when we had no choice - I saw the club like a sick relative that needed caring for. The stuff we saw under Pulis was deliberate, and I think that's why there's a lot of bile towards someone who achieved so much. Just my opinion.
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Post by agingerstokie on Oct 5, 2015 15:26:35 GMT
Fuck me what a plethora of penae (multiple peniseses) we find here. We won Saturday you know Loving the avatar to be fair.
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Post by gonk on Oct 5, 2015 15:32:27 GMT
I think Pugsley was referring to the way he celebrated his side scoring a goal against a) his former club and b) 11 men against 9 the other week at the Brit, after he was given a very generous reception. I think it's known in football circles as the shithouse Alan Pardew trick. He wants to win games. What the fuck do you expect??? Has Stokielad come back in the fold.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 16:09:00 GMT
The way some Stoke fans have talked about TP on this forum has always been a disgrace. I cant and wont ever understand the abuse he's had and you cant say its down to that one West Brom game its been going on years. Id understand it if we'd been a purist,passing football club throughout our history but we havnt. We used to mock West Brom and the like who played passing football. "Were Stoke City...we'll play how we want" echoed around abooming Britannia Stadium. All I want is a winning team and yes I think if you can win with a little more style then who wouldnt want to see that. Mark Hughes has been brilliant for Stoke but that dosnt mean I hate or could ever hate Tony Pulis. I could understand it if he'd walked out on us,taken us down,sold our best players,belittled our area or our supporters but no...he hasnt has he? Jesus Ive seen Cotterill get less stick than TP. Also past players are now getting hammered on twitter and on here.Players like Etherington,Griffin,Higginbotham. Now Id understand if these players had taken us down to the third division or something but these were our heroes who helped us live the dream. Now in The Oatcake itself the editorial for the West Brom game was "deadly serious" when it said lets leave TP in the past. I totally agree. The issue after though it couldnt resist to have a "final" word. Those final words keep appearing on here. Why cant people just stop fishing with the digs and starting up debate after debate for no reason???
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 5, 2015 16:29:51 GMT
I don't get why it has to be either or, can't we just respect him for what he did for us and leave it at that, fucking hell how long has it been, and we've still got idiots on both sides giving each other shit over him. Feels to me like its calming down somewhat now. There will always be outliers on either side of the argument but not so long ago this thread would have easily been 23 pages long rather than 3. Early days...
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Post by keasie1863 on Oct 5, 2015 16:37:55 GMT
Fuck me what a conclave of cunts we find here. We won Saturday you know. glad you could join,make yourself at home!!
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