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Post by werrington on Oct 4, 2015 13:20:59 GMT
They are deluded, how many away games did they win before, they have won two this season already, and were playing one of the form teams in the division. It goes past just results though and that's what many just can't accept It's all about football strangulation and hoping for a set piece There's getting to mid table and there's getting to mid table and all for £40 a shot
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Post by siggy on Oct 4, 2015 13:23:53 GMT
I think West Bom are now a perfect TP team - He seems to have now bought or inherited nearly all the players he wanted when he was at Stoke.
If he had Huth & Crouchy there he would be orgasmic - it would only be the Chelsea call that would please him more
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Post by slpmarc on Oct 4, 2015 13:32:20 GMT
All to supplement a £25million striker who he's converted to a defensive left winger. Baggies fans saying the exact same thing I was some years ago, the ungrateful bastards. The thing that gets me is the hypocrisy. When he played Man City he rolled out the £200m line, saying that he couldn't compete. But when he pitches up against teams in a similar spending bracket (us, Palace, Watford) he still churns out the same turgid shit, trying to grind out a 0-0. His final season with us was appalling, the only game I enjoyed going to see was the Boxing Day win over Liverpool. Come March I actually just wanted the season to end. Like many of us, the last 18months were abysmal to watch with a few glimpses of what we could do if the shackles were taken off.
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Post by colinroberts1 on Oct 4, 2015 13:48:55 GMT
I shouldn't get involved but this made me hoot. " JP isnt going to sack Pulis, but hopefully Pulis sees we arent the right club for him.
If he left now, has a couple of months break, he could get a job at Xmas, save the club and go again, if he went to a certain club he could have a few years to build them. (Even Villa, with the attacking players they have he would have no choice but to try and win a game)
I am disappointed because i wanted to be won over by Pulis, i like him as a bloke, think he is the sort you would go for a beer with and he is no nonsense, however as a manager of our club i want him gone.
My dad has been going the Albion over 70 years, he is the most positive fan in the world, put a Barca, Real and Bayern dream team against us and he would fancy us to win, but i have noticed this season he has been losing enthusiasm and yesterday he just said 'enough is enough, whats the point in watching this and his enthusiasm for the Albion is going rapidly.' 70 years of going, things he has seen, good and bad, i never remember him being this way during the Gould, Smith, Buckley days, etc (thats only my lifetime) and that says it all that he has had enough.
On the flipside to that, i was going to buy a mate of mines 5 year old son a ticket for the Leicester game for his birthday, get a new fan along and i have decided now not to bother and give him the money instead because i genuinely feel he would be put off for life.
Lets not pretend things were great under Mel and Irvine, they wasnt but i would chop my right b*****k now for even a bit of the enthusiasm i had then, Pulis has sucked the life out of my enjoyment for the Albion, i realised yesterday its just going to be the same, he has a default which is setup for a 0-0. I expect we grind out a 1-0 against Sunderland or another game round then and keeps us afloat but there has to be more to life than suffering this s**t every week.
I said it before, its all relative, back in the 80's and 90's we had crap players, so we expected crap, under Megson we had a limited group of players who he made a unit, again didnt expect much, they gave their all and that was enough but ultimately they werent good enough. Nowadays we have quality players who arent going to win the league but can play a bit and they are being coached to do the absolute minimum, ruin the game and try and nick a point and i do expect more.
There is not one attacking player who has improved under Pulis, Berahino probably works harder for the team but he is played out wide, not out wide like he does for England under 21's, but out wide where is main job is to defend. That says it all that not one attacking player has gone better!
We have 3 x strikers in Rondon, Lambert and Anichebe who are all the same, two who he brought despite having Anichebe at the club, proper wingers who dont play (Gnabry and Mcmanaman) and attacking players who dont make the bench (Sess) if you are over 6ft and work ard you have a chance with Pulis, Chester fails on that front because he is under 6ft.
I understand the big money comes in next year, but its not a one off, its every year so if Pulis is in charge to ensure we stay in the league however it happens, we may as well give him a new 5 year contract til whenever a new TV deal comes in, if that is the case, i really wont be attending and i think if current performances are anything to go by, thousands will be the same.
I try and see the best in everything but i just want Pulis to go and ASAP."This ^ loved the siege mentality and fuck you attitude, but got bored in last 2 seasons and was on the verge of stopping going !!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 13:50:07 GMT
They are deluded, how many away games did they win before, they have won two this season already, and were playing one of the form teams in the division. Why deluded? Winning isn't everything. If it's shit to watch then people will moan irrespective.
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Post by Gunslinger on Oct 4, 2015 13:51:23 GMT
£30.5m on Jonny Evans, Rondon, McLean, Lambert, Chester (£8m for a bench player!) and McManaman (who doesn't play). Given a big budget, he hasn't got a clue what to do with it. Before TP became our manager in 2002, a supporter from a team he had previously managed (Bristol City?) visited The Oatcake message board. The supporter wrote that TP was brilliant when only having a shoestring budget, but he also wrote something like: 'Whatever you do - just don't give him [TP] any money. He just waste them'.
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Post by colinroberts1 on Oct 4, 2015 13:51:40 GMT
I shouldn't get involved but this made me hoot. " JP isnt going to sack Pulis, but hopefully Pulis sees we arent the right club for him.
If he left now, has a couple of months break, he could get a job at Xmas, save the club and go again, if he went to a certain club he could have a few years to build them. (Even Villa, with the attacking players they have he would have no choice but to try and win a game)
I am disappointed because i wanted to be won over by Pulis, i like him as a bloke, think he is the sort you would go for a beer with and he is no nonsense, however as a manager of our club i want him gone.
My dad has been going the Albion over 70 years, he is the most positive fan in the world, put a Barca, Real and Bayern dream team against us and he would fancy us to win, but i have noticed this season he has been losing enthusiasm and yesterday he just said 'enough is enough, whats the point in watching this and his enthusiasm for the Albion is going rapidly.' 70 years of going, things he has seen, good and bad, i never remember him being this way during the Gould, Smith, Buckley days, etc (thats only my lifetime) and that says it all that he has had enough.
On the flipside to that, i was going to buy a mate of mines 5 year old son a ticket for the Leicester game for his birthday, get a new fan along and i have decided now not to bother and give him the money instead because i genuinely feel he would be put off for life.
Lets not pretend things were great under Mel and Irvine, they wasnt but i would chop my right b*****k now for even a bit of the enthusiasm i had then, Pulis has sucked the life out of my enjoyment for the Albion, i realised yesterday its just going to be the same, he has a default which is setup for a 0-0. I expect we grind out a 1-0 against Sunderland or another game round then and keeps us afloat but there has to be more to life than suffering this s**t every week.
I said it before, its all relative, back in the 80's and 90's we had crap players, so we expected crap, under Megson we had a limited group of players who he made a unit, again didnt expect much, they gave their all and that was enough but ultimately they werent good enough. Nowadays we have quality players who arent going to win the league but can play a bit and they are being coached to do the absolute minimum, ruin the game and try and nick a point and i do expect more.
There is not one attacking player who has improved under Pulis, Berahino probably works harder for the team but he is played out wide, not out wide like he does for England under 21's, but out wide where is main job is to defend. That says it all that not one attacking player has gone better!
We have 3 x strikers in Rondon, Lambert and Anichebe who are all the same, two who he brought despite having Anichebe at the club, proper wingers who dont play (Gnabry and Mcmanaman) and attacking players who dont make the bench (Sess) if you are over 6ft and work ard you have a chance with Pulis, Chester fails on that front because he is under 6ft.
I understand the big money comes in next year, but its not a one off, its every year so if Pulis is in charge to ensure we stay in the league however it happens, we may as well give him a new 5 year contract til whenever a new TV deal comes in, if that is the case, i really wont be attending and i think if current performances are anything to go by, thousands will be the same.
I try and see the best in everything but i just want Pulis to go and ASAP."This ^ loved the siege mentality and fuck you attitude, but got bored in last 2 seasons and was on the verge of stopping going !!
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Post by BristolMick on Oct 4, 2015 13:57:05 GMT
£30.5m on Jonny Evans, Rondon, McLean, Lambert, Chester (£8m for a bench player!) and McManaman (who doesn't play). Given a big budget, he hasn't got a clue what to do with it. Before TP became our manager in 2002, a supporter from a team he had previously managed (Bristol City?) visited The Oatcake message board. The supporter wrote that TP was brilliant when only having a shoestring budget, but he also wrote something like: 'Whatever you do - just don't give him [TP] any money. He just waste them'. No Bristol City fan has ever said TP was brilliant. They hate him to a man. The only fans who had a good word to say about him prior to joining us were Gillingham's. BM
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Post by siggy on Oct 4, 2015 14:00:55 GMT
Before TP became our manager in 2002, a supporter from a team he had previously managed (Bristol City?) visited The Oatcake message board. The supporter wrote that TP was brilliant when only having a shoestring budget, but he also wrote something like: 'Whatever you do - just don't give him [TP] any money. He just waste them'. No Bristol City fan has ever said TP was brilliant. They hate him to a man. The only fans who had a good word to say about him prior to joining us were Gillingham's. BM And that was because they hated Scally more!
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 4, 2015 14:19:35 GMT
I don't why people are so sure WBA won't go down if they persist with playing a reasonably competent midfielder player in Brunt at left back i'd say it's a fair possibility.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 4, 2015 14:39:51 GMT
They are deluded, how many away games did we win before, we have won two this season already, and we are playing one of the form teams in the division. Just tweaked it for you matey.
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Oct 4, 2015 14:47:38 GMT
I've got a lot of respect for TP for what he did for us. That will never change, but we have moved on - and rightly so.
But it pleases me to see, that TP is still working for the good cause :-)
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 4, 2015 14:52:01 GMT
The WBA board have done the right thing in signing TP. The most important thing to a Prem club this season is to be there next season when the big money rolls in. TP will deliver that.
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 4, 2015 15:25:19 GMT
The WBA board have done the right thing in signing TP. The most important thing to a Prem club this season is to be there next season when the big money rolls in. TP will deliver that. You reckon? It isn't written on tablets of stone. It can happen - and the shambolic mess they are in just now they are in trouble.
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Post by siggy on Oct 4, 2015 15:26:36 GMT
The WBA board have done the right thing in signing TP. The most important thing to a Prem club this season is to be there next season when the big money rolls in. TP will deliver that. I'm not sure about that - Apart from against us results have not gone TP's way - this might be the season he runs out of "'ard workers". TP didn't want to leave us - I've a suspicion that he took the Palace job reluctantly because he didn't think he could work with the existing players but things really worked out for him somehow that season. We don't know for sure why he left Palace so quickly last season and he had to wait ages to get the WBA call, but as I said in another post, that baggies team was already a part pulis team and he really has made it his this season. But that might be his downfall, he buys players that fit in holes based on what they did previously, he can't pick or spot a player that will form or create a team. The players either work or fail because its the system thats important to him not the individual or the team. We got out of the championship because he found that season enough fallen star players all playing his system well and that system was perfect to stay up too. But he couldn't evolve and then he couldn't find any further "stars" to make his style anything thing more than survival..Pulis teams are a bit like transit vans they are great for humping stuff about and working hard but you aint never gonna win a race or attract sexual partners with one unless its running against other transit vans!
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Post by tony harrison on Oct 4, 2015 15:37:44 GMT
Don't like the man, hated his football, baggies are welcome to him.
Mark Hughes barmy army!
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Post by scfc75 on Oct 4, 2015 15:44:49 GMT
The WBA board have done the right thing in signing TP. The most important thing to a Prem club this season is to be there next season when the big money rolls in. TP will deliver that. Not so sure. In fact we were regressing so alarmingly, I was convinced he would have seen us relegated had he stayed for another season.
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Post by elystokie on Oct 4, 2015 15:50:21 GMT
The WBA board have done the right thing in signing TP. The most important thing to a Prem club this season is to be there next season when the big money rolls in. TP will deliver that. Not so sure. In fact we were regressing so alarmingly, I was convinced he would have seen us relegated had he stayed for another season. I think his 'system' had been sussed, it wasn't working any more. No real reason to think it'll work again, hopefully it won't.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 4, 2015 15:50:53 GMT
Dunna werrit all you Pulis lovers, WBA will stay up nae bother. Two reasons...
1. TP has his eyes on another 7 figure bonus so fuck you Albion fans, he'll do whatever it takes. 2. He's salivating at the thought of spending another £30million on ageing donkeys.
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Post by fca47 on Oct 4, 2015 16:25:58 GMT
They are deluded, how many away games did we win before, we have won two this season already, and we are playing one of the form teams in the division. Just tweaked it for you matey. You sad tosser.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 17:48:05 GMT
I shouldn't get involved but this made me hoot. " JP isnt going to sack Pulis, but hopefully Pulis sees we arent the right club for him.
If he left now, has a couple of months break, he could get a job at Xmas, save the club and go again, if he went to a certain club he could have a few years to build them. (Even Villa, with the attacking players they have he would have no choice but to try and win a game)
I am disappointed because i wanted to be won over by Pulis, i like him as a bloke, think he is the sort you would go for a beer with and he is no nonsense, however as a manager of our club i want him gone.
My dad has been going the Albion over 70 years, he is the most positive fan in the world, put a Barca, Real and Bayern dream team against us and he would fancy us to win, but i have noticed this season he has been losing enthusiasm and yesterday he just said 'enough is enough, whats the point in watching this and his enthusiasm for the Albion is going rapidly.' 70 years of going, things he has seen, good and bad, i never remember him being this way during the Gould, Smith, Buckley days, etc (thats only my lifetime) and that says it all that he has had enough.
On the flipside to that, i was going to buy a mate of mines 5 year old son a ticket for the Leicester game for his birthday, get a new fan along and i have decided now not to bother and give him the money instead because i genuinely feel he would be put off for life.
Lets not pretend things were great under Mel and Irvine, they wasnt but i would chop my right b*****k now for even a bit of the enthusiasm i had then, Pulis has sucked the life out of my enjoyment for the Albion, i realised yesterday its just going to be the same, he has a default which is setup for a 0-0. I expect we grind out a 1-0 against Sunderland or another game round then and keeps us afloat but there has to be more to life than suffering this s**t every week.
I said it before, its all relative, back in the 80's and 90's we had crap players, so we expected crap, under Megson we had a limited group of players who he made a unit, again didnt expect much, they gave their all and that was enough but ultimately they werent good enough. Nowadays we have quality players who arent going to win the league but can play a bit and they are being coached to do the absolute minimum, ruin the game and try and nick a point and i do expect more.
There is not one attacking player who has improved under Pulis, Berahino probably works harder for the team but he is played out wide, not out wide like he does for England under 21's, but out wide where is main job is to defend. That says it all that not one attacking player has gone better!
We have 3 x strikers in Rondon, Lambert and Anichebe who are all the same, two who he brought despite having Anichebe at the club, proper wingers who dont play (Gnabry and Mcmanaman) and attacking players who dont make the bench (Sess) if you are over 6ft and work ard you have a chance with Pulis, Chester fails on that front because he is under 6ft.
I understand the big money comes in next year, but its not a one off, its every year so if Pulis is in charge to ensure we stay in the league however it happens, we may as well give him a new 5 year contract til whenever a new TV deal comes in, if that is the case, i really wont be attending and i think if current performances are anything to go by, thousands will be the same.
I try and see the best in everything but i just want Pulis to go and ASAP."I feel his pain...That's just how I felt in his last season
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Post by stokiesteve on Oct 4, 2015 18:41:18 GMT
Some on there are talking about choreographing situations to 'force pulls to walk'
They really don't know the guy that well yet, do they?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 4, 2015 18:46:11 GMT
A thread with 'Pulis' in the title & all the usual suspects turn up to show us all how 'over him' they are. ZZZzzz...
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Post by 1raytuper on Oct 4, 2015 19:11:45 GMT
I can remember hating what he produces and being in far more of a minority than 30% whilst the likes of yourself stayed with him because he was like a safety blanket and you thought staying up was worth the misery and entertaining football couldn't be more productive.They're not as starved as we had been, they'll not keep happy clapping his shit too long. It was only in the last few months of his time at Stoke (post Liverpool Boxing Day) that he lost the fans in any meaningful way. Meaning attendances were falling and season ticket renewals were worryingly low. Take all your on line polls you want, the only data you need is what passes through the turnstiles. I'm convinced this is the main reason PC decided it was time for a change. spot on mate.it was no longer financial sense to keep him,otherwise pc woulda been like me and been willing to watch up and at em football as long as it kept us in the prem. empty seats would have taken away the home atmosphere that played a major part in our prem survival.
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 4, 2015 19:20:57 GMT
A thread with 'Pulis' in the title & all the usual suspects turn up to show us all how 'over him' they are. ZZZzzz... Check your "Referring to Pulis Guide book", chapter 3, paragraph 4....."The only acceptable way to refer to Pulis now he's no longer our manager is in a negative manner." While you're at it check chapter 4, paragraph 2....."When referencing the opinions of other supporters of clubs TP manages it is imperative that any pro-Pulis factions (particularly if they are the majority) are ignored." That should clear things up for you.
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Post by senojbor on Oct 4, 2015 19:30:24 GMT
Albion were in big trouble just like Palace were, oh, and then there was us fighting off relegation to league one when he first took over. He more than anyone deserves a chance of a big club, a lot more than Lambert or Rogers did.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 4, 2015 19:37:09 GMT
We were told we couldn't laugh at the boinging Brazilians whilst they were above us in the table.
Now we are above them, we still cant laugh.
Can someone tell me when it is ok to laugh because holding in my roars of laughter is practically breaking my ribs.
Tony pulis and West "I'd rather be relegated than watch that shit every week" brom are a match made in hell.
All being well, they will have to watch that shit every week on the road to relegation.
Then, and only then, will tony pulis be a stoke city legend. :-)
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Post by rawli on Oct 4, 2015 20:04:33 GMT
If Tony relegated them it would be the funniest thing ever.
Though we wouldn't be able to laugh out of respect.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 20:14:21 GMT
We were told we couldn't laugh at the boinging Brazilians whilst they were above us in the table. Now we are above them, we still cant laugh. Can someone tell me when it is ok to laugh because holding in my roars of laughter is practically breaking my ribs. Tony pulis and West "I'd rather be relegated than watch that shit every week" brom are a match made in hell. All being well, they will have to watch that shit every week on the road to relegation. Then, and only then, will tony pulis be a stoke city legend. :-) I'm finding it bloody brilliant. The only appointment that would be more doomed for manager and fans to never get on would be us appointing one of Neil Warnock, Phil Brown or Danny Rose in a bizarre player manager swoop.
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Post by Gunslinger on Oct 4, 2015 20:42:13 GMT
Before TP became our manager in 2002, a supporter from a team he had previously managed (Bristol City?) visited The Oatcake message board. The supporter wrote that TP was brilliant when only having a shoestring budget, but he also wrote something like: 'Whatever you do - just don't give him [TP] any money. He just waste them'. No Bristol City fan has ever said TP was brilliant. They hate him to a man. The only fans who had a good word to say about him prior to joining us were Gillingham's. BM I know he wasn't popular at all at Bristol City, that's why I put in the question mark. It could of course have been Gillingham, I just can't remember. I can hardly remember what I did last week, not to mention a post at this message board in 2002. The main thing was TPs ability to spend lots of money wisely.
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