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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 2, 2015 10:37:07 GMT
The plan is to meet at 2.15 pm outside the Holt End for a joint display of the Villa and Stoke banners. There will be press coverage and photos so it obviously wouldn't look too good if the only stoke fans there are Bart Lacey who has taken delivery of the banner (thanks for your efforts Bart), myself and my daugther  The more stokies there, the better. the main purpose of this is to get good media coverage. Villa have now agreed that the banner, which says "Stoke City fans say Twenty's Plenty" can be displayed in the upper tier throughout the game  Admin - any chance of pinning this ?
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Post by Onneravineet on Oct 2, 2015 10:51:50 GMT
Good luck Malcolm with the press etc.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 2, 2015 10:52:21 GMT
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Oct 2, 2015 11:19:18 GMT
Does Bart post on here? I've known him bloody years from standing on the Boothen but never thought to ask if he's on here! |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 2, 2015 11:27:57 GMT
Does Bart post on here? I've known him bloody years from standing on the Boothen but never thought to ask if he's on here! I don't think he does, Jamo, but not certain. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 2, 2015 17:16:29 GMT
I'm not sure a protest where you end up paying the prices anyway is the right way to go, protest then go home I'd get but I'm not convinced, I think it would take a nation wide non show to make anyone really take notice.
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Post by stokeharry on Oct 2, 2015 18:11:17 GMT
I'm not sure a protest where you end up paying the prices anyway is the right way to go, protest then go home I'd get but I'm not convinced, I think it would take a nation wide non show to make anyone really take notice. That's the only thing that would have any impact but most people are all talk so it won't happen and the fans will continue to get shafted. |
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Post by borninm14 on Oct 2, 2015 18:37:44 GMT
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 2, 2015 18:44:29 GMT
I'm not sure a protest where you end up paying the prices anyway is the right way to go, protest then go home I'd get but I'm not convinced, I think it would take a nation wide non show to make anyone really take notice. It's about getting media coverage and through that a focus on how they are using their huge media money. We have made progress in the last couple of years with far more reciprocal deals which have saved fans in XS of £0.5m and the away fans fund. I believe the publicity of the FSF campaigns have played a significant part in that. I'm on Radio 5 tomorrow morning and due to be on breakfast TV on Sunday and there has been extensive national newspaper coverage and local media coverage. None of that would have happened if the protest had not been organised. |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Oct 2, 2015 18:49:32 GMT
I remember the days when going anywhere near the Holt End, particularly displaying your team colours was a real high risk activity. Hopefully the natives are far friendlier these days. Judging by the other thread on here with the warning, some obviously aren't.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 18:50:25 GMT
Biggest following since our first season with around 2,700 fans, that will show them....... ????
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 2, 2015 18:50:32 GMT
Great stuff. And another example of extensive coverage in a big regional paper which simply would not have happened without this protest. |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 2, 2015 18:53:36 GMT
Biggest following since our first season with around 2,700 fans, that will show them....... ???? So the rendition of " £41 your taking the piss" should be all the louder.......... |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 2, 2015 18:55:30 GMT
I'm not sure a protest where you end up paying the prices anyway is the right way to go, protest then go home I'd get but I'm not convinced, I think it would take a nation wide non show to make anyone really take notice. It's about getting media coverage and through that a focus on how they are using their huge media money. We have made progress in the last couple of years with far more reciprocal deals which have saved fans in XS of £0.5m and the away fans fund. I believe the publicity of the FSF campaigns have played a significant part in that. I'm on Radio 5 tomorrow morning and due to be on breakfast TV on Sunday and there has been extensive national newspaper coverage and local media coverage. None of that would have happened if the protest had not been organised. Im not sure it has, any real difference anyway, the odd game here and there to shut people up is nothing, and the media will cover anything to fill up pages, I don't want to rubbish the work you've done as it wouldn't be fair and its good that you do it but there's a long way to go and I just can't see anything really happening in regards to big change. |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 2, 2015 18:56:21 GMT
I remember the days when going anywhere near the Holt End, particularly displaying your team colours was a real high risk activity. Hopefully the natives are far friendlier these days. Judging by the other thread on here with the warning, some obviously aren't. We have been working with the Villa guys on this. The only thing I am frightened of is very few stories behind our banner which would be a tad embarrassing |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 2, 2015 19:00:08 GMT
It's about getting media coverage and through that a focus on how they are using their huge media money. We have made progress in the last couple of years with far more reciprocal deals which have saved fans in XS of £0.5m and the away fans fund. I believe the publicity of the FSF campaigns have played a significant part in that. I'm on Radio 5 tomorrow morning and due to be on breakfast TV on Sunday and there has been extensive national newspaper coverage and local media coverage. None of that would have happened if the protest had not been organised. Im not sure it has, any real difference anyway, the odd game here and there to shut people up is nothing, and the media will cover anything to fill up pages, I don't want to rubbish the work you've done as it wouldn't be fair and its good that you do it but there's a long way to go and I just can't see anything really happening in regards to big change. The away fans fund which has provided the free coach travel is more than the odd game. I agree there's a long way to go of course and if you've got ideas about how to get there quicker we'd love to hear them. |
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Post by stokester1989 on Oct 2, 2015 19:01:47 GMT
in all fairness to Stoke they have been good to us reference prices. about 5 years frozen the ST price and lay on free transport on away days.
Its the other grounds that take the piss that charge stupid price for away fans.
A club should only be able to charge the away fans the same price as the opposite team has charged their fans.
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Post by heisenberg88 on Oct 2, 2015 19:07:03 GMT
And after all that you will walk in with your £41 ticket. Rendering it all pointless.
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Post by neoisd1 on Oct 2, 2015 19:26:12 GMT
Let's be honest here, the best way to protest would be for everyone to boycott the game but we all know that's never going to happen. In my opinion perhaps the next best thing would be to watch the game in silence (not to difficult for some clubs). Pick a weekend, spread the word and we could have an entire weekends football in silence. Imagine a west brom game on Sky with TP shouting his bag off for 90 minutes being the only thing you can hear, shit would soon change when people start turning the channel over  |
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 2, 2015 19:27:12 GMT
It's about getting media coverage and through that a focus on how they are using their huge media money. We have made progress in the last couple of years with far more reciprocal deals which have saved fans in XS of £0.5m and the away fans fund. I believe the publicity of the FSF campaigns have played a significant part in that. I'm on Radio 5 tomorrow morning and due to be on breakfast TV on Sunday and there has been extensive national newspaper coverage and local media coverage. None of that would have happened if the protest had not been organised. Im not sure it has, any real difference anyway, the odd game here and there to shut people up is nothing, and the media will cover anything to fill up pages, I don't want to rubbish the work you've done as it wouldn't be fair and its good that you do it but there's a long way to go and I just can't see anything really happening in regards to big change. I've always loved the positivity that radiates from the good people of Stoke on Trent  |
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Post by GoBoks on Oct 2, 2015 19:56:11 GMT
I still think that the best way to do this is something that is legal, does not cost or inconvenience the fans and yet attracts "in your face", can't miss it, attention of the mainstream media. Stay-aways are not going to get massive support for various reasons. If, at every single Prem match around the country, both sets of fans stood and booed for a minute on the minute of the ticket price (41st minute for Villa), it would be a nationwide worldwide sensation. If that happened week after week, it would not be long before real change happens.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 2, 2015 20:09:59 GMT
Im not sure it has, any real difference anyway, the odd game here and there to shut people up is nothing, and the media will cover anything to fill up pages, I don't want to rubbish the work you've done as it wouldn't be fair and its good that you do it but there's a long way to go and I just can't see anything really happening in regards to big change. I've always loved the positivity that radiates from the good people of Stoke on Trent I'm well known for my annoyingly positive approach to life. |
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Oct 2, 2015 20:25:46 GMT
And after all that you will walk in with your £41 ticket. Rendering it all pointless. Nothing that these guys do is pointless. The more the issue is raised with the media the better. People paying 41 quid is stupid but it shows the difference between a supporter and a customer in my opinion. Its a supporters way of life! I live in Canada where people can be charged over $200 a seat for a regular season hockey game and there is 82 of them a season. Season tickets have to be shared if you want personal ownership, otherwise its corporate only. Is this the way you want to see our league go? |
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Post by kbillyh on Oct 2, 2015 22:07:51 GMT
I prefer to pay over the odds for a ticket. Makes me feel all superior like and keeps the riff raff from polluting my day.
Can't afford it, don't go. I long for the days of £200 quid tickets, i deserve premier league football because i earn enough. It can't be right for lazy fucks on benefits thinking they have the right to sit next to me.
You are nothing but a customer and football does not belong to you so fuck off down Leek town with the rest of the dingles. We are Stoke City, we are Premier League and it's not your club anymore.
Get it?
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 2, 2015 23:38:53 GMT
in all fairness to Stoke they have been good to us reference prices. about 5 years frozen the ST price and lay on free transport on away days. Its the other grounds that take the piss that charge stupid price for away fans. A club should only be able to charge the away fans the same price as the opposite team has charged their fans. Well yes, you are of course right about the ST prices. The free transport is Stoke's use of the £250k which all PL clubs have agreed to spend on away supporters ( partly I believe as a result of our campaigns - but Stoke as a club were a leading advocate of that). That said, Stoke City charge away fans £40 for cat A games, which is not good. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 2, 2015 23:46:29 GMT
I'm not sure a protest where you end up paying the prices anyway is the right way to go, protest then go home I'd get but I'm not convinced, I think it would take a nation wide non show to make anyone really take notice. It's about getting media coverage and through that a focus on how they are using their huge media money. We have made progress in the last couple of years with far more reciprocal deals which have saved fans in XS of £0.5m and the away fans fund. I believe the publicity of the FSF campaigns have played a significant part in that. I'm on Radio 5 tomorrow morning and due to be on breakfast TV on Sunday and there has been extensive national newspaper coverage and local media coverage. None of that would have happened if the protest had not been organised. Are you on the Danny Baker show? |
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Post by Stokyo on Oct 3, 2015 0:27:52 GMT
The banner, on display in Bart's garden Great banner mate, and good on you for being pro active in trying to draw attention to the issue in the media. Hope in goes well! |
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Oct 3, 2015 4:27:37 GMT
Good Luck today Malcolm and I Would like to say thankyou to Aston Villa for letting us display the banner during the game nice to know that both sets of fans can come together on this well done
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 3, 2015 5:34:21 GMT
Good Luck today Malcolm and I Would like to say thankyou to Aston Villa for letting us display the banner during the game nice to know that both sets of fans can come together on this well done Agree. This issue has to be tackled with supporter unity. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 5:48:51 GMT
Biggest following since our first season with around 2,700 fans, that will show them....... ???? That's my thought Let's all protest at the expensive ticket prices by buying them all then protesting that they are too much |
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The more stokies there, the better. the main purpose of this is to get good media coverage. 
