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Post by luke45 on Sept 12, 2015 23:34:07 GMT
Glen Whelan should not be defending our near post on set piece situations. Already this season it's cost us on two occasions, firstly Eric Dier's header at Spurs and secondly Giroud's header today. I appreciate Glen doesn't have the height to mark man to man but we need somebody else marking that zone at the near post, teams are deliberately targeting it and it wont be the last time we are caught out in this area this season if we don't address it. For Giroud's header today we had 6 foot 1 Marco Van Ginkel at the back post marking absolutely nobody, surely in that situation it would make more sense to have him covering the front post area with his added height? No clean sheets in our first six games in all competitions this season, with or without Ryan that is not acceptable and has to improve.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 12, 2015 23:36:16 GMT
Who can fill his cement boots?
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Post by stokeyouth on Sept 12, 2015 23:40:11 GMT
Agree Luke, me and Bayern said same on twitter.
Anyone can cover that position better than him, Cameron, Wolly, Wilson, MVG, Pieters, Diouf, Joselu, Crouch, Walters. Whoever is on at the time
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Post by hchpotter on Sept 13, 2015 10:28:46 GMT
Anyone would think we can't be bothered towork on defending set pieces in training. Sod that lads it's much more fun passing in triangles around the centre circle.
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 13, 2015 10:43:09 GMT
We don't have as many tall players as we used to so matching up our players to mark the opposition is going to be more difficult.
Maybe Whelan should pick up one the opposition's shorter players.
Van Ginkel does not seem to be particularly strong in ariel duels,however the zonal job on the near post is more about providing an obstacle to the near post ball; as a tall man he should be ideally suited to that role.
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Post by stokester1989 on Sept 13, 2015 10:51:18 GMT
wed have a better chance if hughes put his boots on
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 14:35:37 GMT
Agreed. Don't put Glenn in that position. Not big enough.
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Post by Davef on Sept 13, 2015 14:51:39 GMT
Agreed. Don't put Glenn in that position. Not big enough. His size wasn't the problem yesterday, it was moving about three or four yards forward as the free kick was being taken instead of holding his position. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 13, 2015 14:55:37 GMT
Glen Whelan should not be defending our near post on set piece situations. Already this season it's cost us on two occasions, firstly Eric Dier's header at Spurs and secondly Giroud's header today. I appreciate Glen doesn't have the height to mark man to man but we need somebody else marking that zone at the near post, teams are deliberately targeting it and it wont be the last time we are caught out in this area this season if we don't address it. For Giroud's header today we had 6 foot 1 Marco Van Ginkel at the back post marking absolutely nobody, surely in that situation it would make more sense to have him covering the front post area with his added height? No clean sheets in our first six games in all competitions this season, with or without Ryan that is not acceptable and has to improve. To be honest I think several of our players need to learn something about marking a man when it comes to set pieces! It really has not been good for a long time now!  |
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 13, 2015 15:35:12 GMT
Glen Whelan should not be defending our near post on set piece situations. Already this season it's cost us on two occasions, firstly Eric Dier's header at Spurs and secondly Giroud's header today. I appreciate Glen doesn't have the height to mark man to man but we need somebody else marking that zone at the near post, teams are deliberately targeting it and it wont be the last time we are caught out in this area this season if we don't address it. For Giroud's header today we had 6 foot 1 Marco Van Ginkel at the back post marking absolutely nobody, surely in that situation it would make more sense to have him covering the front post area with his added height? No clean sheets in our first six games in all competitions this season, with or without Ryan that is not acceptable and has to improve. To be honest I think several of our players need to learn something about marking a man when it comes to set pieces! It really has not been good for a long time now! Seems we've moved to a more zonal system now haven't we? |
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 13, 2015 17:01:58 GMT
To be honest I think several of our players need to learn something about marking a man when it comes to set pieces! It really has not been good for a long time now! Seems we've moved to a more zonal system now haven't we? If something doesn't work you need to reconsider what you're doing! Both last season and this season so far we have conceded too many goals from set pieces. If there is one player at Arsenal you will make sure don't receive the ball from set pieces it should be Giroud. The same probably go for the Spurs game where Dier statistically will be among Spurs' most dangerous men in these situations. Be more tactical and sort it out! |
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