cbickerton
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'The tide is very much in our court now.'
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Post by cbickerton on Sept 5, 2015 14:50:16 GMT
England XI to face San Marino:
Hart, Clyne, Stones, Jagielka, Shaw, Shelvey, Milner, Barkley, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Vardy, Rooney.
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Post by Northy on Sept 5, 2015 14:52:20 GMT
Hart,
Clyne, Stones, Jagielka, Shaw,
Shelvey, Milner,
Barkley, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Rooney,
Vardy,
Roney or Vardy to play up front ?
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Post by Stokiedokie on Sept 5, 2015 14:57:08 GMT
I know it's only against San Marino, but how just how shit is that England side?
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cbickerton
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Post by cbickerton on Sept 5, 2015 14:58:05 GMT
Hart, Clyne, Stones, Jagielka, Shaw, Shelvey, Milner, Barkley, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Rooney, Vardy, Roney or Vardy to play up front ? Rooney ST. Vardy and Chambo wingers. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 14:59:19 GMT
Annnddd - 'like I give a fuck'
like watching the USS Nimitz run over a rowing boat with a fruit stall on it
if ever there was a footballing non event - its this
AND -Because of this ---- STOKE CITY ARE NOT PLAYING
so - fuck them !
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 5, 2015 14:59:38 GMT
Jamie Vardy - what's that all about? Even with the declining talent pool, I didn't get it last season and still don't get it.
Jonny Walters is twice the player.
Can't have been too many less talented England internationals in the last 30 years.
Having said that, such is the farcical nature of the game, he could well notch 3 or 4 against this lot.
Shelvey's decent enough though
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 5, 2015 15:00:58 GMT
At least he's not playing Stones at right back, which had been suggested earlier in the day.
Have we really, in 2015, got nobody better than Phil 'milk float at Le Mans' Jagielka?
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 5, 2015 15:02:21 GMT
The 'holding' midfield looks terribly weak and will be exploited against top oppo.
As for Vardy, well words fail me. He can run fast that's about it.
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Post by stokiejoe on Sept 5, 2015 15:03:44 GMT
Not bothered now Jack isn't playing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 5, 2015 15:03:55 GMT
As much as I dislike him Chris Smalling has had an excellent start (I didn't see the Swansea game so he may have been shit in that I don't know) to the season and probably should be starting.
Vardy is awful.
Why no Butland?
And about time he played Barkley.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 5, 2015 15:04:47 GMT
He's clearly giving experience to fringe players. I'd have played Butland.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 5, 2015 15:05:17 GMT
The 'holding' midfield looks terribly weak and will be exploited against top oppo. As for Vardy, well words fail me. He can run fast that's about it. Against top opposition though he's nowhere near this side surely? Carrick or Delph play who imo are both decent. But obviously would love better than both of them for against the better teams. |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 5, 2015 15:05:51 GMT
subs: Smalling, Butland, Walcott, Cahill, Carrick, Delph, Kane, Mason, Sterling, Gibbs, Heaton
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 5, 2015 15:11:12 GMT
England need to decide on an Eleven and play them every match (barring injuries) from now on. Build up an understanding.
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 5, 2015 15:13:38 GMT
As much as I dislike him Chris Smalling has had an excellent start (I didn't see the Swansea game so he may have been shit in that I don't know) to the season and probably should be starting. Vardy is awful. Why no Butland? And about time he played Barkley. Barkley is playing. Why not give Jack experience in a 'competitive' game like this? Is this a case of "Chelsea wanted to sign Stones so he must be good and be picked for England"? Vardy is like a faster SJW but without the goal scoring record. Shouldn't be within a country mile of the England team. Shelby should have been in the England setup for a while. Can drive a team forwards. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 5, 2015 15:14:30 GMT
England need to decide on an Eleven and play them every match (barring injuries) from now on. Build up an understanding. Sort of agree but isn't the best sort of game to try some newbies? You've got to try some people out. But useless fucks like Vardy and Mason should be nowhere near the squad anyway for me. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 5, 2015 15:16:12 GMT
As much as I dislike him Chris Smalling has had an excellent start (I didn't see the Swansea game so he may have been shit in that I don't know) to the season and probably should be starting. Vardy is awful. Why no Butland? And about time he played Barkley. Why not give Jack experience in a 'competitive' game like this? Is this a case of "Chelsea wanted to sign Stones so he must be good and be picked for England"? Vardy is like a faster SJW but without the goal scoring record. Shouldn't be within a country mile of the England team. Shelby should have been in the England setup for a while. Can drive a team forwards. No shit Sherlock!  |
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 5, 2015 15:17:19 GMT
England need to decide on an Eleven and play them every match (barring injuries) from now on. Build up an understanding. Sort of agree but isn't the best sort of game to try some newbies? You've got to try some people out. But useless fucks like Vardy and Mason should be nowhere near the squad anyway for me. No. Play your best team game in game out and only change it when necessary. We've tried chopping and changing and handing out caps like confetti. All this 'well we know what Rooney can do' etc is bollocks. Yeah we know - FAIL IN TOURNAMENTS. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 5, 2015 15:22:23 GMT
Sort of agree but isn't the best sort of game to try some newbies? You've got to try some people out. But useless fucks like Vardy and Mason should be nowhere near the squad anyway for me. No. Play your best team game in game out and only change it when necessary. We've tried chopping and changing and handing out caps like confetti. All this 'well we know what Rooney can do' etc is bollocks. Yeah we know - FAIL IN TOURNAMENTS. Disagree. You've got to test options out so you know you can rely on plan B, C etc. The back 5 is probably close to what it will be in the Euros (Cahill aside). In the midfield we're resting our more defensive players for an actual test on Tuesday and giving some decent attacking options a go. And the strikeforce is a Sterling away from being our best front 3. |
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Post by Gods on Sept 5, 2015 15:28:29 GMT
England XI to face San Marino: Hart, Clyne, Stones, Jagielka, Shaw, Shelvey, Milner, Barkley, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Vardy, Rooney. Goodness me, we really have kept the Club brands but outsourced the dirty business of actually playing the game to overseas players. |
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Post by datguy on Sept 5, 2015 15:30:08 GMT
Didn't Woy say England Cricketers could play against San Marino, yet plays a fairly strong team for what England have. Not being biased but honestly think Jack should of started tonight and Hart on Tuesday. Happy to see Shelvey though.
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Post by ohbottom on Sept 5, 2015 15:37:45 GMT
As much as I dislike him Chris Smalling has had an excellent start (I didn't see the Swansea game so he may have been shit in that I don't know) to the season and probably should be starting. Vardy is awful. Why no Butland? And about time he played Barkley. Agree about Smalling. I've always slagged him off but this season (from what I've seen of it) he actually looks like a defender and starting to read the game. Maybe Danny Blind is telling him what to do. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 5, 2015 15:40:15 GMT
As much as I dislike him Chris Smalling has had an excellent start (I didn't see the Swansea game so he may have been shit in that I don't know) to the season and probably should be starting. Vardy is awful. Why no Butland? And about time he played Barkley. Agree about Smalling. I've always slagged him off but this season (from what I've seen of it) he actually looks like a defender and starting to read the game. Maybe Danny Blind is telling him what to do. He looks a different player doesn't he? He's been strong, commanding and like you say has read the game extremely well. |
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Post by stokie25 on Sept 5, 2015 15:41:28 GMT
Didn't Woy say England Cricketers could play against San Marino, yet plays a fairly strong team for what England have. Not being biased but honestly think Jack should of started tonight and Hart on Tuesday. Happy to see Shelvey though. England cricketers probably could beat San Marino, it's the football team I worry about  |
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Post by LDE76 on Sept 5, 2015 15:45:29 GMT
He's clearly giving experience to fringe players. I'd have played Butland. He'll probably see more of the ball chucking it back after it's been booted out for a throw-in than he would if he was in goal. |
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Sept 5, 2015 15:50:25 GMT
As much as I dislike him Chris Smalling has had an excellent start (I didn't see the Swansea game so he may have been shit in that I don't know) to the season and probably should be starting. Vardy is awful. Why no Butland? And about time he played Barkley. Agree about Smalling. I've always slagged him off but this season (from what I've seen of it) he actually looks like a defender and starting to read the game. Maybe Danny Blind is telling him what to do. Why would the Dutch National Team manager be advising him? Sent from my GT-I8190N using proboards |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 5, 2015 15:58:12 GMT
Singing the national anthem too fast!  |
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Post by datguy on Sept 5, 2015 15:58:50 GMT
Agree about Smalling. I've always slagged him off but this season (from what I've seen of it) he actually looks like a defender and starting to read the game. Maybe Danny Blind is telling him what to do. Why would the Dutch National Team manager be advising him? Sent from my GT-I8190N using proboards His son will though. |
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Sept 5, 2015 15:59:00 GMT
only hart singing
fucking disgusting!
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 5, 2015 16:00:44 GMT
Is the game at the Northwood stadium.??
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