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Post by tijuanabrass on Sept 5, 2015 5:42:48 GMT
They're an anachronism. A dusty sepia-hued remnant of imperialism that add nothing to the game and detract from the proper business of domestic association Football.
These unwanted hiatuses from the main event stoke nationalism, make fat Swiss-men wealthier than they need or deserve to be and cost me 90 minutes in front of my beloved Stoke City.
And now they're giving the Welsh an over inflated sense of their own importance.
Lord preserve us.
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Post by Gods on Sept 5, 2015 5:57:33 GMT
It's normally rugby not football but have you noticed how a Welshman always pops up whenever they win but when they have lost and you most need one of the miserable, seaweed munching, sheep-bothering, pinch-faced little buggers there isn't one anywhere to be found  |
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Post by Northy on Sept 5, 2015 9:58:01 GMT
but how can we laugh at Scotlands gallant failures every 2 years if they are taken away?
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Post by rawli on Sept 5, 2015 10:09:47 GMT
Can't believe how they've ruined the European Championships. 24 teams is a complete joke - all you'll get is a boring round of games before the main event. Moving to 16 was bad enough.
Everyone's banging on about what a great achievement it is that Wales have qualified for the first time since 1958. It's not. It's just 3 times as easy as it was to qualify when it was 8 teams.
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Post by alster on Sept 5, 2015 10:31:09 GMT
Can't believe how they've ruined the European Championships. 24 teams is a complete joke - all you'll get is a boring round of games before the main event. Moving to 16 was bad enough. Everyone's banging on about what a great achievement it is that Wales have qualified for the first time since 1958. It's not. It's just 3 times as easy as it was to qualify when it was 8 teams. I wouldn't scrap them but would have a lot less of them. I mean were playing San Marino its not even a country. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 10:42:22 GMT
Can't believe how they've ruined the European Championships. 24 teams is a complete joke - all you'll get is a boring round of games before the main event. Moving to 16 was bad enough. Everyone's banging on about what a great achievement it is that Wales have qualified for the first time since 1958. It's not. It's just 3 times as easy as it was to qualify when it was 8 teams. I wouldn't scrap them but would have a lot less of them. I mean were playing San Marino its not even a country. yeah..it is 3rd smallest country in europe |
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Post by santy on Sept 5, 2015 10:42:20 GMT
One thing that has always surprised me is with the endless talk about which league is the best, the world cup no longer really serves to reflect that given that all the top leagues have an abundance of overseas players. If you want to see which country has the best coaches, the best development and players surely it should be each country selecting players from its own leagues.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 10:44:32 GMT
I think you lot only want an end to them because we have been crap in most competitions since 1970.
Those of us that remember when we had a truly good National team and Manager know that nothing ignites a nations fervour like a good World Cup run.
For me I'd bring back the Home Internationals as we have clearly lost a competitive edge since they were stopped.
Oh and did I mention it takes a special manager to make a special team not an also ran.
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 5, 2015 10:45:34 GMT
It needs reform. I would get rid of international breaks, use the gaps to end the season a few weeks earlier and then play all of the qualifiers over the summer.
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Post by lordb on Sept 5, 2015 11:15:04 GMT
It needs reform. I would get rid of international breaks, use the gaps to end the season a few weeks earlier and then play all of the qualifiers over the summer. That would be better. Alternatively do what we did before and play them midweek with no international break. That was better too. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 5, 2015 11:23:23 GMT
Why all this fucking hype about Wales winning tomorrow? They still have Andorra to play at home so it's a given. Na na na na na na na na na na Welsh......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 11:26:11 GMT
One thing that has always surprised me is with the endless talk about which league is the best, the world cup no longer really serves to reflect that given that all the top leagues have an abundance of overseas players. If you want to see which country has the best coaches, the best development and players surely it should be each country selecting players from its own leagues. I don't agree with what you're saying at all. That said it would be fucking awesome to watch |
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Post by LDE76 on Sept 5, 2015 11:35:36 GMT
Imagine my disappointment when I realised that Ukyestony hadn't adopted conventional line-spacing.  |
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Post by stokiejoe on Sept 5, 2015 12:10:27 GMT
Should be confined to off-season and seeded to reduce games like tonight, where the team hasn't scored for two years; for once it isn't England.
Far too many countries involved, there shouldn't be scores like 15-0. I used to love and go to the annual England/Scotland games but that was spoiled
Internationals just a distraction now.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Sept 5, 2015 12:12:32 GMT
Make season from September to April, have internationals May and June players then get whole of July off, easy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 12:24:56 GMT
Can't believe how they've ruined the European Championships. 24 teams is a complete joke - all you'll get is a boring round of games before the main event. Moving to 16 was bad enough. Everyone's banging on about what a great achievement it is that Wales have qualified for the first time since 1958. It's not. It's just 3 times as easy as it was to qualify when it was 8 teams. I wouldn't scrap them but would have a lot less of them. I mean were playing San Marino its not even a country. A country which has as much right to compete for qualify as all others |
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Post by prudhoe on Sept 5, 2015 12:28:38 GMT
I love the watching the world cup and european championships every 2 years but i hate all these breaks in the season for qualifiers and friendlies. I'd like it better if we just had a big qualifying tournament the summer before. All those weeks this summer when we had nothing but the womens crap going on they could of done all the euro qualifiers then.
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Post by baystokie on Sept 5, 2015 15:46:18 GMT
Can't believe how they've ruined the European Championships. 24 teams is a complete joke - all you'll get is a boring round of games before the main event. Moving to 16 was bad enough. Everyone's banging on about what a great achievement it is that Wales have qualified for the first time since 1958. It's not. It's just 3 times as easy as it was to qualify when it was 8 teams. I wouldn't scrap them but would have a lot less of them. I mean were playing San Marino its not even a country. Seeing as how England have merely 2 semi=final appearances as their record of 'achievement' in this competition, it ill becomes us trying to restrict the entry. Maybe WE should be one of the countries that is turfed out? No more than we deserve! |
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Post by alster on Sept 5, 2015 15:53:51 GMT
I wouldn't scrap them but would have a lot less of them. I mean were playing San Marino its not even a country. A country which has as much right to compete for qualify as all others It's no more a country than Longton would be if it declared independence and far less of a country than Chechnya or Tasmania. It's a bit of Italy, you don't see Monaco entering the World cup or Euro championships its just bloody daft. What next the Isle of Man, Mull of Kintyre, where do you draw the line with this idiocy. |
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Sept 5, 2015 15:58:18 GMT
I wouldn't scrap them but would have a lot less of them. I mean were playing San Marino its not even a country. Seeing as how England have merely 2 semi=final appearances as their record of 'achievement' in this competition, it ill becomes us trying to restrict the entry. Maybe WE should be one of the countries that is turfed out? No more than we deserve! It's not about restricting entry but making the competition work. Every other competition in the world where there is a massive disparity in quality has a system to address it. The terrible teams should be playing each other for the right to play in the next phase of qualifying. It would stop these waste of time matches and actually give those teams a chance to progress. Getting thumped in training exercise matches doesn't help them at all. Sent from my GT-I8190N using proboards |
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Post by alster on Sept 5, 2015 16:07:10 GMT
I wouldn't scrap them but would have a lot less of them. I mean were playing San Marino its not even a country. Seeing as how England have merely 2 semi=final appearances as their record of 'achievement' in this competition, it ill becomes us trying to restrict the entry. Maybe WE should be one of the countries that is turfed out? No more than we deserve! I know we've got Woy dragging us down but we're still FIFA ranked 10 in the world. There should be some sort of pre qualification for teams outside the top 50 orsomething. Tougher qualification groups with less pointless games against minnows, less teams in the finals, 16 would be plenty. Less games but more competetive, IMO only way to boost flagging interest in international football. |
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Post by baystokie on Sept 5, 2015 20:17:13 GMT
Seeing as how England have merely 2 semi=final appearances as their record of 'achievement' in this competition, it ill becomes us trying to restrict the entry. Maybe WE should be one of the countries that is turfed out? No more than we deserve! I know we've got Woy dragging us down but we're still FIFA ranked 10 in the world. There should be some sort of pre qualification for teams outside the top 50 orsomething. Tougher qualification groups with less pointless games against minnows, less teams in the finals, 16 would be plenty. Less games but more competetive, IMO only way to boost flagging interest in international football. I thought that minnows playing the big boys with a chance of an upset was why we like the FA Cup, though the many rounds before the 3rd Round do weed out many minor teams. |
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Post by baystokie on Sept 5, 2015 20:19:10 GMT
Seeing as how England have merely 2 semi=final appearances as their record of 'achievement' in this competition, it ill becomes us trying to restrict the entry. Maybe WE should be one of the countries that is turfed out? No more than we deserve! I know we've got Woy dragging us down but we're still FIFA ranked 10 in the world. There should be some sort of pre qualification for teams outside the top 50 orsomething. Tougher qualification groups with less pointless games against minnows, less teams in the finals, 16 would be plenty. Less games but more competetive, IMO only way to boost flagging interest in international football. Didn't we get that 10th ranking through beating lots of minnows? We might not have got it if they only counted games against opponents ranked in the top 50! |
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