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Post by luke2u on Sept 4, 2015 16:30:33 GMT
Our old friend Diego Arismendi has now joined Al Shabab i Saudi Arabia. This after two and a half season with some success in Uruguay, where he has been back in the national team.
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Post by themistocles on Sept 4, 2015 16:34:44 GMT
Our old friend Diego Arismendi has now joined Al Shabab i Saudi Arabia. This after two and a half season with some success in Uruguay, where he has been back in the national team. He's joined the Saudi section of the jihadi terrorist group? what an unfortunate turn his career has took. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 16:35:22 GMT
Good for him  Never had anything against him I can only blame the then management for it not working out. Wasn't the alternative option for us to sign Pastore? Like, Pastore who is fucking amazing and plays at PSG? |
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Post by metalhead on Sept 4, 2015 16:37:20 GMT
Good for him Never had anything against him I can only blame the then management for it not working out. Wasn't the alternative option for us to sign Pastore? Like, Pastore who is fucking amazing and plays at PSG? Yes. We could have had Pastore for 10 million. Brilliant eh? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 16:39:41 GMT
Good for him Never had anything against him I can only blame the then management for it not working out. Wasn't the alternative option for us to sign Pastore? Like, Pastore who is fucking amazing and plays at PSG? Yes. We could have had Pastore for 10 million. Brilliant eh? Chuffed with how that one turned out!  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 4, 2015 16:39:58 GMT
I'm guessing he's getting a shit load of money for it but what an odd move after you've done so well and re-established yourself as an international.
It was Pastore for 2/3 million.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 16:40:33 GMT
I'm guessing he's getting a shit load of money for it but what an odd move after you've done so well and re-established yourself as an international. It was Pastore for 2/3 million..... Stop, you're making it all the more painful  |
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Post by luke2u on Sept 4, 2015 16:41:30 GMT
Our old friend Diego Arismendi has now joined Al Shabab i Saudi Arabia. This after two and a half season with some success in Uruguay, where he has been back in the national team. He's joined the Saudi section of the jihadi terrorist group? what an unfortunate turn his career has took. But good money I guess. His team has got a Uruguayan coach, and Arismendi and another Uruguayan player have joined him. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 4, 2015 16:41:08 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Sept 4, 2015 16:45:17 GMT
Brilliant isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 16:46:04 GMT
When I saw him play last season he was awesome too, even does a job on the left Pastore - Bojan - Shaqiri Imagine that |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 16:50:35 GMT
He was class at Valencia. Still believe he would have been a world-beater.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 16:52:03 GMT
I still stick to my opinion that English clubs are lazy. De Bruyne to Citeh proves it again. Sold for 18M Euro's 18 months ago yet is now apparently worth 54M as a ready made product. Horseshit. No foresight, no bottle and no ability to spot potential. |
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Post by luke2u on Sept 4, 2015 16:57:40 GMT
I still stick to my opinion that English clubs are lazy. De Bruyne to Citeh proves it again. Sold for 18M Euro's 18 months ago yet is now apparently worth 54M as a ready made product. Horseshit. No foresight, no bottle and no ability to spot potential. Agree, we're not patient enough, and not ready to give foreign talent some games now and then to let them learn the game of the PL. |
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Post by Northy on Sept 4, 2015 17:08:18 GMT
He was class at Valencia. Still believe he would have been a world-beater. I remember him pompey away in the league cup, best player on the pitch that night IMO, even if we did lose 4-0 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 17:15:26 GMT
I wasn't even joking mate, I always had high hopes for him and a big part of me suspects he liked the ball at his feet too much for Pulisball. You don't walk back into the Uruguayan national team if you're shit. N'zonzi replacement?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 4, 2015 17:16:13 GMT
To this day I maintain that he would have been a cracking little player for us.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 4, 2015 17:22:21 GMT
Signings like him were just hammering nails in TP's coffin.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 4, 2015 17:26:00 GMT
He looked good at Valencia.
I do think he would have had a far better chance of settling in the environment now, with players like Muniesa, Arnautovic and Bojan etc.
Feel the same about Florent Cuvelier, it hasn't panned out for him, I think he's still recouperating from his injury on his Vale loan debut.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 17:34:44 GMT
I still stick to my opinion that English clubs are lazy. De Bruyne to Citeh proves it again. Sold for 18M Euro's 18 months ago yet is now apparently worth 54M as a ready made product. Horseshit. No foresight, no bottle and no ability to spot potential. Agree, we're not patient enough, and not ready to give foreign talent some games now and then to let them learn the game of the PL. Just blatant greed and laziness mate. From Chelsea, who hoover up player after player and loan them out, to Citeh who chuck stupid money at players. I'd just love one or two of them to bring through a couple of home grown players and develop them through their teens and into their twenties. The sad thing is, the mentality is drifting down the leagues and when you see Championship clubs paying 6 and 4M for midfielders and bidding 12M+ for strikers then it's enough to make you cry. |
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Post by nott1 on Sept 4, 2015 17:41:41 GMT
He never got a chance to establish himself by getting enough games.....bad managership.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 4, 2015 17:46:13 GMT
Without wishing to start another shit slinging slanging match, in my eyes Arismendi was a signing made by Peter Coates, in order to try and drill the point home that we need to start exploring the foreign market, but with Pulis being the stubborn twat he is he was never going to play him in case Coatesy turned out to be right and it made his strategy of only shopping domestically look a bit daft.
I'd even go as far to say that if Arismendi was still on our books at the time Hughes took over, he'd have gradually earned himself a crack at the first team and we'd be sitting here today with the mindset of "Well we've lost N'Zonzi, but we still have Arismendi".
As has been pointed out, you don't get into the Uruguayan national team if you're a shit player.
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Post by slpmarc on Sept 4, 2015 18:31:40 GMT
Arismende was poorly managed at Stoke, he had no understanding of English at the time of his signing, and non of the squad could liaise with him. He quickly become homesick and lonely, resulting in him reaching out to people to make friends by having parties at his apartment.
It was kemp who scouted the player, and although he was a talent what the old style of recruitment failed to do was make sure the player could fit into the squad. The likes of Cartwright and Cruickshank not only find players of the right talent, but of the right mind and social outlook so a smooth transition is made. Note the use of the current squad to speak and influence the players we are recruiting.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 4, 2015 18:46:13 GMT
There was a train of thought that perhaps he was signed as a kind of justification for Kemps American scouting adventure. Especially as he hardly ever featured in first team selection on the bench or otherwise. My sympathy for him is tempered somewhat by his probable £15k a week he banked for three years for turning up for training.
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Post by realstokebloke on Sept 4, 2015 19:04:20 GMT
Pastore in a Pulis team ...
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Post by millsey on Sept 5, 2015 9:34:07 GMT
he played football so did tunquay pullis didn't llike them
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Post by dieguito88 on Sept 5, 2015 9:45:33 GMT
Pastore in a Pulis team ...
Bench warmer with Pulis 100% |
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Post by rawli on Sept 5, 2015 10:00:43 GMT
He looked good at Valencia. I do think he would have had a far better chance of settling in the environment now, with players like Muniesa, Arnautovic and Bojan etc. Feel the same about Florent Cuvelier, it hasn't panned out for him, I think he's still recouperating from his injury on his Vale loan debut. I remember the look of dismay and disbelief on his face when he got subbed vs. Valencia. He'd had a great game. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 5, 2015 10:53:43 GMT
Doesn't sound like we helped a young player to settle brilliantly well in a strange land.
Then again, don't necessarily think he'd have pulled up any trees if we'd played him more. He did nowt at Brighton, nowt at Barnsley, and his career hasn't exactly taken off since he left.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 5, 2015 11:10:17 GMT
Doesn't sound like we helped a young player to settle brilliantly well in a strange land. Then again, don't necessarily think he'd have pulled up any trees if we'd played him more. He did nowt at Brighton, nowt at Barnsley, and his career hasn't exactly taken off since he left. Someone above said he'd been with us for 3 years, I was surprised and so wiki'd him. Didn't realise he had three loans out. He was with Poyet at Brighton and wonder whether that was our {crude} attempt at providing him with a touch of 'home' for him. Suffered injury and eventually ended up at Huddersfield. As you rightly say he didn't impress in any of these spells. I still get a sense that it was his head not his art that was the issue. |
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Never had anything against him I can only blame the then management for it not working out. 
