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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Sept 3, 2015 15:44:30 GMT
I see Tottenham have left Adebayor out.Surely just be Tex for us left out?
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Post by ttownstokie on Sept 3, 2015 16:27:51 GMT
Hughes might be waiting till after the Internationals in case of long term injuries.
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Post by crownmeking on Sept 3, 2015 16:39:58 GMT
Charlie Adam, Ibrahim Afellay, Marko Arnautovic, Phil Bardsley, Bojan, Jack Butland, Geoff Cameron, Peter Crouch, Mame Diouf, Shay Given, Jakob Haugaard, Stephen Ireland, Glen Johnson, Joselu, Marc Muniesa, Peter Odemwingie, Erik Pieters, Xherdan Shaqiri, Ryan Shawcross, Steven Sidwell, Marco van Ginkel, Jonathan Walters, Glenn Whelan, Marc Wilson, Philipp Wollscheid.
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Post by ilikelamp on Sept 3, 2015 16:40:54 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 3, 2015 16:44:19 GMT
Poor Tex
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 3, 2015 16:47:41 GMT
OMG, we didn't leave out the Brazilian/Slovakian wunderkind????  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 16:50:24 GMT
Tis a good squad
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 3, 2015 16:54:15 GMT
I've supported Stoke since the mid 60s, I can't believe we have risen to such an outstanding group of players, and only in just a few years really.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 3, 2015 16:55:00 GMT
OMG, we didn't leave out the Brazilian/Slovakian wunderkind???? I'm stunned. It's as if spending £450K on Brazilian Slovaks that no ones ever heard of, guarantees you nothing these days. |
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 3, 2015 17:07:57 GMT
OMG, we didn't leave out the Brazilian/Slovakian wunderkind???? I'm stunned. It's as if spending £450K on Brazilian Slovaks that no ones ever heard of, guarantees you nothing these days. Indeed - but we could have paid 2.75m for a Brazilian/Welshman and got exactly the same amount of footballing talent! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 3, 2015 17:13:09 GMT
I'd love to have seen him play during his trial. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 3, 2015 17:24:03 GMT
25 Squad players (*=Home grown)
Adam, Charles Graham
Afellay, Ibrahim
Arnautovic, Marko
*Bardsley, Phillip Anthony
*Butland, Jack
Cameron, Geoff Scott
*Crouch, Peter James
Diouf, Mame Biram
*Given, Shay John James
Haugaard, Jakob
*Ireland, Stephen James
*Johnson, Glen McLeod Cooper
Krkic Perez, Bojan
Mato Sanmartin, Jose Luis
Muniesa Martinez, Marc
Odemwingie, Peter
Pieters, Erik
Shaqiri, Xherdan
*Shawcross, Ryan James
*Sidwell, Steven James
Van Ginkel, Wulfert Cornelius
*Walters, Jonathan Ronald
*Whelan, Glenn David
*Wilson, Marc David
Wollscheid, Philipp
Under-21 players (Contract and Scholars)
Ayoola, Olusola Adeola
Bachmann, Daniel
Banks, Lewis
Barber, Benjamin Thomas
Brierley, Theodore Tobias Clifford
Coban, Yusuf
Dryden, Edward
Dunwoody, Jake
Dyche, Thomas
Edwards, Liam
Edwards, Thomas Adam
El Ouariachi, Mohamed
Eve, Dale Donald
Gyollai, Daniel
Jarvis, Daniel Adam
Kurasik, Dominic
Lecygne, Eddy
Marques, Christopher
Marques De Almeida Vieira Da Silva, Luis
Molina Beloqui, Sergio
Moseley, Bobby James
Ngoy Bin Cibambi, Julien Fontaine
O'Reilly, Ryan
Read, Harvey Stafford
Renee-Pringle, Johnville Isaacs Joseph
Roberts, Oliver James
Sadiki, Kosovar
Shenton, Oliver
Shepherd, Thomas Roy
Skapetis, Petros
Smith, Liam James
Taylor, Joel
Telford, Dominic
Verlinden, Thibaud
Waddington, Mark Thomas
Waring, George Philip
Watkins-Clark, Mason Bradley
Wells, Toby
Williams, Josh Aston
Yao, Abodje Freddy Bruce
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Post by Davef on Sept 3, 2015 17:29:57 GMT
Glenn McLeod Cooper Johnson.  |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 3, 2015 17:30:49 GMT
Don't understand the Teix knocking mesen.
Is it because he looks like Ashley Cole, or because he doesn't play like him?
Or a bit of both?
If it's one of those signings that doesn't work out then it's nowt to get too ruffled about.
There's a plan to ease him in, or ease him out, no doubt.
I'd rather keep a glimmer of hope that he'll fulfill at least some of his potential {whether with us or elsewhere}.
What it says on the tin is mint.
Admittedly I havn't witnessed his U21 performances to date.
In last years German pre-season he looked good, he broke his foot, and in the cameos I have seen since he's not let us down.
Whilst not shining he's looked far from disastrous in the bits I've seen.
He's not exactly holding us back in any way.
More U21 appearances? A loan? or can you feature in the Cups if you'e not Prem squad registered?
Dunno.
He's a player I'd like to be patient with and hope he'll do well, rather than celebrate his perceived premature demise.
Just think the 'Tex is shit' shit needs counter-balancing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 3, 2015 17:34:18 GMT
Don't understand the Teix knocking mesen. Is it because he looks like Ashley Cole, or because he doesn't play like him? Or a bit of both? If it's one of those signings that doesn't work out then it's nowt to get too ruffled about. There's a plan to ease him in, or ease him out, no doubt. I'd rather keep a glimmer of hope that he'll fulfill at least some of his potential {whether with us or elsewhere}. What it says on the tin is mint. Admittedly I havn't witnessed his U21 performances to date. In last years German pre-season he looked good, he broke his foot, and in the cameos I have seen since he's not let us down. Whilst not shining he's looked far from disastrous in the bits I've seen. He's not exactly holding us back in any way. More U21 appearances? A loan? or can you feature in the Cups if you'e not Prem squad registered? Dunno. He's a player I'd like to be patient with and hope he'll do well, rather than celebrate his perceived premature demise. Just think the 'Tex is shit' shit needs counter-balancing. He was never needed and like I've said in the U-21's I've never seen anything quite like it in 10 years of being a semi regular reserve football watcher. He's awful. |
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Post by basingstokie on Sept 3, 2015 17:51:38 GMT
OMG, we didn't leave out the Brazilian/Slovakian wunderkind???? I'm stunned. It's as if spending £450K on Brazilian Slovaks that no ones ever heard of, guarantees you nothing these days. 25 years ago you could have got Peter Schmeichel for that |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 18:07:58 GMT
Wulfert Cornelius Van Ginkel?
<childish snigger>
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 3, 2015 18:08:12 GMT
Don't understand the Teix knocking mesen. Is it because he looks like Ashley Cole, or because he doesn't play like him? Or a bit of both? If it's one of those signings that doesn't work out then it's nowt to get too ruffled about. There's a plan to ease him in, or ease him out, no doubt. I'd rather keep a glimmer of hope that he'll fulfill at least some of his potential {whether with us or elsewhere}. What it says on the tin is mint. Admittedly I havn't witnessed his U21 performances to date. In last years German pre-season he looked good, he broke his foot, and in the cameos I have seen since he's not let us down. Whilst not shining he's looked far from disastrous in the bits I've seen. He's not exactly holding us back in any way. More U21 appearances? A loan? or can you feature in the Cups if you'e not Prem squad registered? Dunno. He's a player I'd like to be patient with and hope he'll do well, rather than celebrate his perceived premature demise. Just think the 'Tex is shit' shit needs counter-balancing. He was never needed and like I've said in the U-21's I've never seen anything quite like it in 10 years of being a semi regular reserve football watcher. He's awful. Yeah we've discussed it. I could well be backing a wrong horse, but it won't cost me nowt. As we've already rehearsed, I thought he looked decent in last years pre-season, a physical prescence and comfortable on the ball. In that more recent right back cameo {AV} he looked strong in the challenge and didn't look phased or out of his depth. It's the only eye-witness evidence I can judge it on. {Not much to infer from the Wrexham friendly.} If he's not good enough then yes he's not needed, but generally I disagree with the 'not needed' bit. His type of defender fits the Hughes template. Who knows, if he hadn't bost his foot {6 month injury} then he may have been more integral to plans, and consequently more advanced. Hughes and Co are able to winkle pearls from muscles. I'd like to see him continue to be given that opportunity. Like I said, I havn't donned the Black Cap on Teix yet. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 3, 2015 18:11:40 GMT
Wulfert Cornelius Van Ginkel? <childish snigger> Wulfert is a great name, I'm thinking about getting a dog. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 18:13:01 GMT
Wulfert Cornelius Van Ginkel? <childish snigger> Wulfert is a great name, I'm thinking about getting a dog. I'd just love to know how they got from there to Marco. The mind boggles. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 3, 2015 18:18:02 GMT
Wulfert is a great name, I'm thinking about getting a dog. I'd just love to know how they got from there to Marco. The mind boggles. Nope. Not an anagram nor an acronym {WC}. Perhaps he liked Polo mints as a kid, or adventuring? You'd think he'd just be Van wouldn't you. Double Dutch. |
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Post by captainmainwaring on Sept 3, 2015 18:40:48 GMT
Don't understand the Teix knocking mesen. Is it because he looks like Ashley Cole, or because he doesn't play like him? Or a bit of both? If it's one of those signings that doesn't work out then it's nowt to get too ruffled about. There's a plan to ease him in, or ease him out, no doubt. I'd rather keep a glimmer of hope that he'll fulfill at least some of his potential {whether with us or elsewhere}. What it says on the tin is mint. Admittedly I havn't witnessed his U21 performances to date. In last years German pre-season he looked good, he broke his foot, and in the cameos I have seen since he's not let us down. Whilst not shining he's looked far from disastrous in the bits I've seen. He's not exactly holding us back in any way. More U21 appearances? A loan? or can you feature in the Cups if you'e not Prem squad registered? Dunno. He's a player I'd like to be patient with and hope he'll do well, rather than celebrate his perceived premature demise. Just think the 'Tex is shit' shit needs counter-balancing. He was never needed and like I've said in the U-21's I've never seen anything quite like it in 10 years of being a semi regular reserve football watcher. He's awful. The first time I saw Tex play, was in the under 21 side, was towards the end of last season. I must admit he was poor but I think he was coming back from injury. I've seen him a couple of times so far this season, once in Cologne and since at the Brit and to be quite honest I think he has potential. Tex and Wolly are different types of players to the ones we've been used to. They are not, and can't just be stoppers (as we used to call them) defenders must be able to pass or bring the ball out of defence to keep possesion and start attacking moves. The days of lumping it up field and hoping for the best have gone. Both of these players are better at passing the ball than either Shawcross or Huth Tex and Wolly have got to learn from Shawcross, and Shawcross has go to learn them. Every player has got room for improvement, we'll see if it happens. |
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 3, 2015 18:46:39 GMT
25 Squad players (*=Home grown) Adam, Charles Graham Afellay, Ibrahim Arnautovic, Marko *Bardsley, Phillip Anthony *Butland, Jack Cameron, Geoff Scott *Crouch, Peter James Diouf, Mame Biram *Given, Shay John James Haugaard, Jakob *Ireland, Stephen James *Johnson, Glen McLeod Cooper Krkic Perez, Bojan Mato Sanmartin, Jose Luis Muniesa Martinez, Marc Odemwingie, Peter Pieters, Erik Shaqiri, Xherdan *Shawcross, Ryan James *Sidwell, Steven James Van Ginkel, Wulfert Cornelius *Walters, Jonathan Ronald *Whelan, Glenn David *Wilson, Marc David Wollscheid, Philipp Under-21 players (Contract and Scholars) Ayoola, Olusola Adeola Bachmann, Daniel Banks, Lewis Barber, Benjamin Thomas Brierley, Theodore Tobias Clifford Coban, Yusuf Dryden, Edward Dunwoody, Jake Dyche, Thomas Edwards, Liam Edwards, Thomas Adam El Ouariachi, Mohamed Eve, Dale Donald Gyollai, Daniel Jarvis, Daniel Adam Kurasik, Dominic Lecygne, Eddy Marques, Christopher Marques De Almeida Vieira Da Silva, Luis Molina Beloqui, Sergio Moseley, Bobby James Ngoy Bin Cibambi, Julien Fontaine O'Reilly, Ryan Read, Harvey Stafford Renee-Pringle, Johnville Isaacs Joseph Roberts, Oliver James Sadiki, Kosovar Shenton, Oliver Shepherd, Thomas Roy Skapetis, Petros Smith, Liam James Taylor, Joel Telford, Dominic Verlinden, Thibaud Waddington, Mark Thomas Waring, George Philip Watkins-Clark, Mason Bradley Wells, Toby Williams, Josh Aston Yao, Abodje Freddy Bruce Surely Charlie Adam is home grown? |
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Post by AlliG on Sept 3, 2015 18:50:15 GMT
25 Squad players (*=Home grown) Adam, Charles Graham Afellay, Ibrahim Arnautovic, Marko *Bardsley, Phillip Anthony *Butland, Jack Cameron, Geoff Scott *Crouch, Peter James Diouf, Mame Biram *Given, Shay John James Haugaard, Jakob *Ireland, Stephen James *Johnson, Glen McLeod Cooper Krkic Perez, Bojan Mato Sanmartin, Jose Luis Muniesa Martinez, Marc Odemwingie, Peter Pieters, Erik Shaqiri, Xherdan *Shawcross, Ryan James *Sidwell, Steven James Van Ginkel, Wulfert Cornelius *Walters, Jonathan Ronald *Whelan, Glenn David *Wilson, Marc David Wollscheid, Philipp Under-21 players (Contract and Scholars) Ayoola, Olusola Adeola Bachmann, Daniel Banks, Lewis Barber, Benjamin Thomas Brierley, Theodore Tobias Clifford Coban, Yusuf Dryden, Edward Dunwoody, Jake Dyche, Thomas Edwards, Liam Edwards, Thomas Adam El Ouariachi, Mohamed Eve, Dale Donald Gyollai, Daniel Jarvis, Daniel Adam Kurasik, Dominic Lecygne, Eddy Marques, Christopher Marques De Almeida Vieira Da Silva, Luis Molina Beloqui, Sergio Moseley, Bobby James Ngoy Bin Cibambi, Julien Fontaine O'Reilly, Ryan Read, Harvey Stafford Renee-Pringle, Johnville Isaacs Joseph Roberts, Oliver James Sadiki, Kosovar Shenton, Oliver Shepherd, Thomas Roy Skapetis, Petros Smith, Liam James Taylor, Joel Telford, Dominic Verlinden, Thibaud Waddington, Mark Thomas Waring, George Philip Watkins-Clark, Mason Bradley Wells, Toby Williams, Josh Aston Yao, Abodje Freddy Bruce Surely Charlie Adam is home grown? Nope. He is a recent arrival from North of The Border. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 3, 2015 18:51:33 GMT
He was never needed and like I've said in the U-21's I've never seen anything quite like it in 10 years of being a semi regular reserve football watcher. He's awful. The first time I saw Tex play, was in the under 21 side, was towards the end of last season. I must admit he was poor but I think he was coming back from injury. I've seen him a couple of times so far this season, once in Cologne and since at the Brit and to be quite honest I think he has potential. Tex and Wolly are different types of players to the ones we've been used to. They are not, and can't just be stoppers (as we used to call them) defenders must be able to pass or bring the ball out of defence to keep possesion and start attacking moves. The days of lumping it up field and hoping for the best have gone. Both of these players are better at passing the ball than either Shawcross or Huth Tex and Wolly have got to learn from Shawcross, and Shawcross has go to learn them. Every player has got room for improvement, we'll see if it happens. I'm in the pre-season means fuck all camp. Tex had been back in training for some time before the 21's games I think and he was bloody awful. The rumours are he's a bit of a joke figure at the club too. No Tex isn't. I don't think he's good on the ball and I think Shawcross is excellent on the ball. Both have one thing in common, they're just plain awful. |
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 3, 2015 18:54:10 GMT
Surely Charlie Adam is home grown? Nope. He is a recent arrival from North of The Border. Surprised considering he had a couple of season at liverpool and blackpool |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 3, 2015 19:00:22 GMT
25 Squad players (*=Home grown) Adam, Charles Graham Afellay, Ibrahim Arnautovic, Marko *Bardsley, Phillip Anthony *Butland, Jack Cameron, Geoff Scott *Crouch, Peter James Diouf, Mame Biram *Given, Shay John James Haugaard, Jakob *Ireland, Stephen James *Johnson, Glen McLeod Cooper Krkic Perez, Bojan Mato Sanmartin, Jose Luis Muniesa Martinez, Marc Odemwingie, Peter Pieters, Erik Shaqiri, Xherdan *Shawcross, Ryan James *Sidwell, Steven James Van Ginkel, Wulfert Cornelius *Walters, Jonathan Ronald *Whelan, Glenn David *Wilson, Marc David Wollscheid, Philipp Under-21 players (Contract and Scholars) Ayoola, Olusola Adeola Bachmann, Daniel Banks, Lewis Barber, Benjamin Thomas Brierley, Theodore Tobias Clifford Coban, Yusuf Dryden, Edward Dunwoody, Jake Dyche, Thomas Edwards, Liam Edwards, Thomas Adam El Ouariachi, Mohamed Eve, Dale Donald Gyollai, Daniel Jarvis, Daniel Adam Kurasik, Dominic Lecygne, Eddy Marques, Christopher Marques De Almeida Vieira Da Silva, Luis Molina Beloqui, Sergio Moseley, Bobby James Ngoy Bin Cibambi, Julien Fontaine O'Reilly, Ryan Read, Harvey Stafford Renee-Pringle, Johnville Isaacs Joseph Roberts, Oliver James Sadiki, Kosovar Shenton, Oliver Shepherd, Thomas Roy Skapetis, Petros Smith, Liam James Taylor, Joel Telford, Dominic Verlinden, Thibaud Waddington, Mark Thomas Waring, George Philip Watkins-Clark, Mason Bradley Wells, Toby Williams, Josh Aston Yao, Abodje Freddy Bruce Surely Charlie Adam is home grown? Because there are some Welsh clubs playing in the English leagues, players who were in either Welsh or English clubs' youth systems count as home grown. Because there are no Scottish clubs in the English leagues, Scottish clubs' youth systems do NOT count as home grown. |
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Post by AlliG on Sept 3, 2015 19:00:47 GMT
Nope. He is a recent arrival from North of The Border. Surprised considering he had a couple of season at liverpool and blackpool He didn't come to England until he was 24/25, whereas to be "homegrown" you have to have played in England for 3 years before the age of 21 (or something like that) which is why Robert Huth was "homegrown" |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 3, 2015 19:01:14 GMT
Nope. He is a recent arrival from North of The Border. Surprised considering he had a couple of season at liverpool and blackpool Yes, but to be home grown you have to have 3 seasons at U21 level in Wales or England |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 3, 2015 19:02:17 GMT
Surprised considering he had a couple of season at liverpool and blackpool He didn't come to England until he was 24/25, whereas to be "homegrown" you have to have played in England for 3 years before the age of 21 (or something like that) which is why Robert Huth was "homegrown" England or Wales |
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