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Post by Jug Bank Stokie on Sept 3, 2015 12:43:27 GMT
Nothing shocking in what he says really... There has certainly been a change in direction for Stoke and you only have to look at a list of the clubs where they have bought players from this summer to see that: Barcelona, Real Madrid, Inter Milan, Chelsea, Liverpool. They are aiming high and bringing in a lot of technically good players, particularly with Xherdan Shaqiri and Ibrahim Afellay. Glen Johnson and Shay Given are both experienced acquisitions and the club have brought in a good mix of players. As for outs, Wilson Palacios’s career there ended in a damp squib and I was surprised to see Thomas Sorensen released because I still think he had a bit of life in him. I also thought Robert Huth was probably worth keeping, though they couldn’t deny Asmir Begovic leaving, even if he has swapped first team football for a space on the bench. They also cashed in on Steven Nzonzi who was a good player but one I don’t feel they ever really got on board. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3220743/Transfer-window-special-Verdict-Arsenal-Chelsea-Liverpool-Manchester-City-United-TACKLE-KEOWN.html#ixzz3kg9phCY0 Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook |
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Post by Gods on Sept 3, 2015 12:48:56 GMT
He was going so well until the last line when he says we never got Zonz on board  |
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Post by Davef on Sept 3, 2015 12:52:15 GMT
He was going so well until the last line when he says we never got Zonz on board He's probably basing his opinion on the fact that N'zonzi twice asked for a transfer and refused the offer of a contract extension. Oh, and maybe not turning up to receive his Player of the Season award. |
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Post by steve66 on Sept 3, 2015 12:59:26 GMT
He was going so well until the last line when he says we never got Zonz on board I can't understand that statement, Nzonzi didn't miss many games, can only assume he means he wasn't played in his right/best position? |
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 3, 2015 13:00:15 GMT
He was going so well until the last line when he says we never got Zonz on board He's probably basing his opinion on the fact that N'zonzi twice asked for a transfer and refused the offer of a contract extension. Oh, and maybe not turning up to receive his Player of the Season award. Agreed, I think he means mentally rather than physically - you always felt SNZ thought he was better than us, and his dad certainly did! The annual transfer request, at least from him, is thankfully a thing of the past! Walters bravely took up the mantel though........... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 13:07:28 GMT
He was going so well until the last line when he says we never got Zonz on board He's probably basing his opinion on the fact that N'zonzi twice asked for a transfer and refused the offer of a contract extension. Oh, and maybe not turning up to receive his Player of the Season award. Yeah, but that was all down to Mark Hughes. Even the bits that happened before he joined. |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Sept 3, 2015 13:11:46 GMT
He was going so well until the last line when he says we never got Zonz on board He's probably basing his opinion on the fact that N'zonzi twice asked for a transfer and refused the offer of a contract extension. Oh, and maybe not turning up to receive his Player of the Season award. Wasn't there a reason he couldn't receive his award? (Nick nick) |
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Post by salopstick on Sept 3, 2015 13:15:21 GMT
If matin keown got a Stoke tattoo,praised Us at every opportunity he would still be a Neanderthal cunt
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 3, 2015 13:16:10 GMT
He was going so well until the last line when he says we never got Zonz on board Much as I don't like the guy, I think his summary is correct. N'Zonzi was a constant pain ever summer being disgruntled and resisted MH's best efforts to persuade him to sign a new contract. It's true the guy wasn't on board in the sense he was committed to Stoke; he clearly saw us as a stepping stone from Blackburn to a CL club. I think all his summaries are actually quite good (it irks me to say!) focusing on the future not the first 4 matches. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 13:27:11 GMT
He was going so well until the last line when he says we never got Zonz on board Much as I don't like the guy, I think his summary is correct. N'Zonzi was a constant pain ever summer being disgruntled and resisted MH's best efforts to persuade him to sign a new contract. It's true the guy wasn't on board in the sense he was committed to Stoke; he clearly saw us as a stepping stone from Blackburn to a CL club. I think all his summaries are actually quite good (it irks me to say!) focusing on the future not the first 4 matches. i'm afraid facts (like NZonzi being up his own arse handing transfer requests in left, right and centre and the fact that before last season he was one of the most criticised players we had due to how slow his play was, his inconsistency and frequent sulking) have now been consigned to the great bin of history. Because he had a good season last year and we've now sold him, he has suddenly turned into the best player we've had for decades, never put a foot wrong and the team can't exist without him (as he's soooo world class and irreplaceable that despite 3 transfer requests in total only 1 club have ever been genuinely interested in him) |
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Post by Gods on Sept 3, 2015 14:11:28 GMT
He was going so well until the last line when he says we never got Zonz on board He's probably basing his opinion on the fact that N'zonzi twice asked for a transfer and refused the offer of a contract extension. Oh, and maybe not turning up to receive his Player of the Season award. Yes, perhaps he was never fully emotionally committed and he was a difficult bugger no doubt, but when he crossed the white line I thought he was our beating heart, certainly in the Hughes era. |
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 3, 2015 14:15:25 GMT
Whoever has written it for him has got it pretty much on the money.
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Post by stokebloke on Sept 3, 2015 14:20:04 GMT
I like him
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 3, 2015 14:22:22 GMT
I hate him
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Post by Davef on Sept 3, 2015 14:27:38 GMT
He's probably basing his opinion on the fact that N'zonzi twice asked for a transfer and refused the offer of a contract extension. Oh, and maybe not turning up to receive his Player of the Season award. Yes, perhaps he was never fully emotionally committed and he was a difficult bugger no doubt, but when he crossed the white line I thought he was our beating heart, certainly in the Hughes era. Yeah, not saying Nzonzi wasn't bad for us, just that I can see where Keown's coming from in that piece. |
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 3, 2015 14:30:12 GMT
It's a bit annoying when a complete wanker like Keown is pretty much bob on.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 14:48:21 GMT
He was going so well until the last line when he says we never got Zonz on board probably meaning it was always his intention to move on |
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Post by Gods on Sept 3, 2015 14:52:28 GMT
It's a bit annoying when a complete wanker like Keown is pretty much bob on. I am starting to think he may be smarter than he looks  |
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Post by march4 on Sept 3, 2015 15:51:17 GMT
Nothing shocking in what he says really... There has certainly been a change in direction for Stoke and you only have to look at a list of the clubs where they have bought players from this summer to see that: Barcelona, Real Madrid, Inter Milan, Chelsea, Liverpool. They are aiming high and bringing in a lot of technically good players, particularly with Xherdan Shaqiri and Ibrahim Afellay. Glen Johnson and Shay Given are both experienced acquisitions and the club have brought in a good mix of players. As for outs, Wilson Palacios’s career there ended in a damp squib and I was surprised to see Thomas Sorensen released because I still think he had a bit of life in him. I also thought Robert Huth was probably worth keeping, though they couldn’t deny Asmir Begovic leaving, even if he has swapped first team football for a space on the bench. They also cashed in on Steven Nzonzi who was a good player but one I don’t feel they ever really got on board. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3220743/Transfer-window-special-Verdict-Arsenal-Chelsea-Liverpool-Manchester-City-United-TACKLE-KEOWN.html#ixzz3kg9phCY0 Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Excellent comment on the overrated N'Zonzi. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Sept 3, 2015 16:07:42 GMT
Nothing shocking in what he says really... There has certainly been a change in direction for Stoke and you only have to look at a list of the clubs where they have bought players from this summer to see that: Barcelona, Real Madrid, Inter Milan, Chelsea, Liverpool. They are aiming high and bringing in a lot of technically good players, particularly with Xherdan Shaqiri and Ibrahim Afellay. Glen Johnson and Shay Given are both experienced acquisitions and the club have brought in a good mix of players. As for outs, Wilson Palacios’s career there ended in a damp squib and I was surprised to see Thomas Sorensen released because I still think he had a bit of life in him. I also thought Robert Huth was probably worth keeping, though they couldn’t deny Asmir Begovic leaving, even if he has swapped first team football for a space on the bench. They also cashed in on Steven Nzonzi who was a good player but one I don’t feel they ever really got on board. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3220743/Transfer-window-special-Verdict-Arsenal-Chelsea-Liverpool-Manchester-City-United-TACKLE-KEOWN.html#ixzz3kg9phCY0 Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Excellent comment on the overrated N'Zonzi. From the first few games I'd suggest he was actually underrated, mate. |
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Post by sportsman on Sept 3, 2015 17:16:22 GMT
He was going so well until the last line when he says we never got Zonz on board Think he meant say watching most his games he got bored. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 3, 2015 17:20:12 GMT
It's interesting that we seek solace in media comment when it suits .
Basically these guys see very little of us and know nothing as is apparent when they say things that don't suit us
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Post by stokeramblers on Sept 3, 2015 17:39:54 GMT
It's interesting that we seek solace in media comment when it suits . Basically these guys see very little of us and know nothing as is apparent when they say things that don't suit us And where do we go to find solace from you Benji..? That is what we all truly desire. |
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Sept 3, 2015 18:36:10 GMT
He was going so well until the last line when he says we never got Zonz on board Think he meant say watching most his games he got bored. Actually I always enjoyed watching N'Zonzi. |
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Post by Gods on Sept 3, 2015 19:05:51 GMT
It's interesting that we seek solace in media comment when it suits . Basically these guys see very little of us and know nothing as is apparent when they say things that don't suit us oops, hello, this thread is about to go off in a different yet strangely familiar direction  |
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Post by alster on Sept 3, 2015 19:12:10 GMT
He was going so well until the last line when he says we never got Zonz on board I can't understand that statement, Nzonzi didn't miss many games, can only assume he means he wasn't played in his right/best position? No I think he just means we never managed to turn him into a Stokie. He's probably right it's a shame we couldn't but N'Zonzi is a very complex character I'm not sure what more we could have done to convince him Stoke was his spiritual home. Shame, great great shame. |
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Sept 3, 2015 19:32:04 GMT
He was going so well until the last line when he says we never got Zonz on board Keown was stating the obvious until he started talking bollocks. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 3, 2015 20:05:52 GMT
If you put a thousand Koewns into a locked room with typewriters for a millions years eventually they would come out with something sensible.
Thats what happened here, dont worry it wont last
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 4, 2015 1:32:28 GMT
Nzonzi is the best midfielder we've had in my generation and I'm 42.
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Post by tijuanabrass on Sept 4, 2015 5:22:57 GMT
He's probably basing his opinion on the fact that N'zonzi twice asked for a transfer and refused the offer of a contract extension. Oh, and maybe not turning up to receive his Player of the Season award. Wasn't there a reason he couldn't receive his award? (Nick nick) I know nothing of this. Any chance someone could elaborate? |
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