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Post by clarkeda on Sept 3, 2015 7:42:05 GMT
@malcolmjclarke: Villa charging Stoke fans £41 on weekend of FSF prices campaign.Hope Stoke fans at game will join Villa fans in their organised protest
Anyone heard anything?
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Post by scfcmacca on Sept 3, 2015 8:56:10 GMT
I don't see how it would be a protest of people turn up and pay the money.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Sept 3, 2015 9:45:04 GMT
What is the organised protest? Late entry? Procession to the ground? Banners?
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Sept 3, 2015 10:05:25 GMT
We will never see Twenty is plenty in this league! Prices will stay as they are or even increase.
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 3, 2015 10:41:42 GMT
What is the organised protest? Late entry? Procession to the ground? Banners? Don't know mate, just seen the above tweeted so thought I'd share.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Sept 3, 2015 11:05:00 GMT
Here you go www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/Get-involved-Twentys-Plenty-Weekend-of-Action-Saturday-3rd-and-Sunday-4th-OctoberThe Villa fans groups have already been in touch with the FSF office asking if Stoke fans will join them in joint action. A photo opportunity with a joint banner before the game would be one possibility. Or two banners, one in each section, next to each other, inside the ground would be another. Or something else. It's the merseyside derby that weekend the liverpool and everton fans are working on joint action for example. The FSF will provide customised banners. I know that there is some cynicism that nothing will ever change, and I can understand that. But for sure, nothing will ever change if the fans don't ever try to do anything and just accept it. There has been more profile and media publicity about this issue recently than ever before, particularly in light of the new media rights deals. We estimate that last season the Twenty's plenty campaign saved fans about £400k through reciprocal deals etc which wouldn't otherwise have happened. I do hope some Stoke fans will get involved. Because of my national commitments, it's very difficult for me to also have the time to organise things like this at club level as well. I don't want to be critical of fellow stokies but I sometimes get a little depressed at our lack of participation in national campaigns etc. At our fans Parliament in Manchester this summer there was, as usual, just me and Monica (surreystokie) and one other stokie on the registration list but I didn't see him and I'm not sure if he came at all. If you would be willing to get involved and do something on the day, please email tickets@fsf.org.uk Thanks.
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Post by wrightspies on Sept 3, 2015 11:07:51 GMT
I won't boycott a match but am all in favor of something like this.
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Post by samba :) on Sept 3, 2015 11:11:31 GMT
Shouldn't be banners cause then people who've payed can't see the match
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Sept 3, 2015 11:13:32 GMT
Shouldn't be banners cause then people who've payed can't see the match It is not proposed that they be displayed during play for exactly the reason you say.
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Post by samba :) on Sept 3, 2015 11:18:11 GMT
Here you go www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/Get-involved-Twentys-Plenty-Weekend-of-Action-Saturday-3rd-and-Sunday-4th-OctoberThe Villa fans groups have already been in touch with the FSF office asking if Stoke fans will join them in joint action. A photo opportunity with a joint banner before the game would be one possibility. Or two banners, one in each section, next to each other, inside the ground would be another. Or something else. It's the merseyside derby that weekend the liverpool and everton fans are working on joint action for example. The FSF will provide customised banners. I know that there is some cynicism that nothing will ever change, and I can understand that. But for sure, nothing will ever change if the fans don't ever try to do anything and just accept it. There has been more profile and media publicity about this issue recently than ever before, particularly in light of the new media rights deals. We estimate that last season the Twenty's plenty campaign saved fans about £400k through reciprocal deals etc which wouldn't otherwise have happened. I do hope some Stoke fans will get involved. Because of my national commitments, it's very difficult for me to also have the time to organise things like this at club level as well. I don't want to be critical of fellow stokies but I sometimes get a little depressed at our lack of participation in national campaigns etc. At our fans Parliament in Manchester this summer there was, as usual, just me and Monica (surreystokie) and one other stokie on the registration list but I didn't see him and I'm not sure if he came at all. If you would be willing to get involved and do something on the day, please email tickets@fsf.org.uk Thanks. possibly because stoke fans have to pay half what other fans have to because of coach travel
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 3, 2015 11:20:31 GMT
This is getting tedious because it's having little or no impact on ticket pricing whatsoever in PL. IMO we should go unilateral on this and drastically reduce our prices to below twenty pounds to shame other clubs. In fact I'd be as bold as to say ten pounds maximum. The only way that protests would have any impact is a massive boycott of a major PL weekend where terraces are empty. See what Sky, BT etc have to say then about televising football at stadia with no fans or noise. Do this a couple if times and they would come down like a ton of bricks on clubs to do something about prices. It just won't happen.
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Post by werrington on Sept 3, 2015 11:21:20 GMT
Banners are a good idea but Aston Villa will have security confiscate them at the turnstiles
The only action that will hit clubs hard is boycotts at certain home games ( ie Man Utd Chelsea etc ) but season tickets are reasonably priced so people won't do it as they already have the match ticket
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Post by samba :) on Sept 3, 2015 11:23:09 GMT
Pitch invasion?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 11:27:39 GMT
A peaceful pitch invasion at half time. Would be good if both fans could achieve it without scrapping, would show solidarity. Occupy the pitch for 15 minutes then walk back to our seats. I doubt it would be conceivable though, too many idiots but it would be a whole a lot more effective than waving some banners.
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Post by samba :) on Sept 3, 2015 11:30:50 GMT
A peaceful pitch invasion at half time. Would be good if both fans could achieve it without scrapping, would show solidarity. Occupy the pitch for 15 minutes then walk back to our seats. I doubt it would be conceivable though, too many idiots but it would be a whole a lot more effective than waving some banners. idiots are probably ideal, there would be more impact
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Sept 3, 2015 11:36:08 GMT
Banners are a good idea but Aston Villa will have security confiscate them at the turnstiles The only action that will hit clubs hard is boycotts at certain home games ( ie Man Utd Chelsea etc ) but season tickets are reasonably priced so people won't do it as they already have the match ticket As you will see from the FSF page, the intention is to try to negotiate allowing the banners with the clubs in advance through the Supporters liaison officers. The Stoke SLO already knows about the weekend of action. Some clubs might not allow it, but some will. We would not advocate a pitch incursion.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 11:38:41 GMT
A peaceful pitch invasion at half time. Would be good if both fans could achieve it without scrapping, would show solidarity. Occupy the pitch for 15 minutes then walk back to our seats. I doubt it would be conceivable though, too many idiots but it would be a whole a lot more effective than waving some banners. idiots are probably ideal, there would be more impact Well any such protest would lose any credibility if both sets of fans couldn't show some unity in this situation. I'd happily run on the pitch if it was for a good cause like this, doesn't mean I would be after a scrap. A mutual pitch invasion would send out a big message to the powers that be, as in yesteryear it would have no doubt ended in violence and therefore if it was a peaceful one, it would show how rival fans could break down barriers and show solidarity against those who are exploiting them.
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Post by mrcholmondleywarner on Sept 3, 2015 11:48:42 GMT
A total waste of time and effort particularly as for some reason Stoke don't historically take a particularly large away following to Villa. Perhaps that's because we're treated like shit, denied any alcohol, thoroughly searched on entry and charged top prices (even more than Arsenal).
Anyway, back to the subject, we can all see that ticket prices are going one way and it's not downwards.
Tottingham yesterday announced, after spending very little in the transfer window, that season tickets for next season will go up again! Just thank Stoke/ The Coates' family that we don't get treated half bad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 11:52:16 GMT
A total waste of time and effort particularly as for some reason Stoke don't historically take a particularly large away following to Villa. Perhaps that's because we're treated like shit, denied any alcohol, thoroughly searched on entry and charged top prices (even more than Arsenal).
Anyway, back to the subject, we can all see that ticket prices are going one way and it's not downwards.
Tottingham yesterday announced, after spending very little in the transfer window, that season tickets for next season will go up again! Just thank Stoke/ The Coates' family that we don't get treated half bad.
Bollocks. It's all too easy to lie down without a fight!
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Post by mrcholmondleywarner on Sept 3, 2015 11:58:04 GMT
A total waste of time and effort particularly as for some reason Stoke don't historically take a particularly large away following to Villa. Perhaps that's because we're treated like shit, denied any alcohol, thoroughly searched on entry and charged top prices (even more than Arsenal).
Anyway, back to the subject, we can all see that ticket prices are going one way and it's not downwards.
Tottingham yesterday announced, after spending very little in the transfer window, that season tickets for next season will go up again! Just thank Stoke/ The Coates' family that we don't get treated half bad.
Bollocks. It's all too easy to lie down without a fight! Good luck - I look forward to supporting you all at the protest on 3rd Oct.
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Post by Squeekster on Sept 3, 2015 12:11:17 GMT
This is one of the reasons why i said we should of followed Swansea and made our away ticket prices 20 pound instead of the free coach travel as this would benefit every single fan who travel to away games.
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Post by alster on Sept 3, 2015 12:29:12 GMT
Banners are a good idea but Aston Villa will have security confiscate them at the turnstiles The only action that will hit clubs hard is boycotts at certain home games ( ie Man Utd Chelsea etc ) but season tickets are reasonably priced so people won't do it as they already have the match ticket As you will see from the FSF page, the intention is to try to negotiate allowing the banners with the clubs in advance through the Supporters liaison officers. The Stoke SLO already knows about the weekend of action. Some clubs might not allow it, but some will. We would not advocate a pitch incursion. Don't do away games myself but very much support your cause. With the megamoney TV deals clubs really don't need to be ripping off the fans who create the atmosphere that's part of the product. Good luck 20 really is plenty.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Sept 3, 2015 15:27:08 GMT
A total waste of time and effort
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That reaction will be music to the ears of the clubs
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Sept 4, 2015 8:20:08 GMT
The Villa fans have now been in direct contact with me - so if you would like to get involved with this ( and I really hope some stokies do) please email tickets@fsf.org.uk
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Post by buddha on Sept 6, 2015 9:41:49 GMT
There's only one way to get them to drop the prices and that's by not not paying what they want you to pay . But that will never happen .
Sent from my SM-G901F using proboards
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 6, 2015 11:07:41 GMT
Don't go.
I rarely go away game but I won't pay more than £35 and even then it has to have been if I been one in a while.
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 6, 2015 11:37:16 GMT
Everyone should boycott the match and show a united front.
It won't happen though because no one sticks together anymore so the prices will continue to increase and the ordinary fan will continue to be exploited.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 6, 2015 11:52:18 GMT
Banners are a good idea but Aston Villa will have security confiscate them at the turnstiles The only action that will hit clubs hard is boycotts at certain home games ( ie Man Utd Chelsea etc ) but season tickets are reasonably priced so people won't do it as they already have the match ticket As you will see from the FSF page, the intention is to try to negotiate allowing the banners with the clubs in advance through the Supporters liaison officers. The Stoke SLO already knows about the weekend of action. Some clubs might not allow it, but some will. We would not advocate a pitch incursion. Turkeys voting for Christmas springs to mind with that one.
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Sept 6, 2015 12:20:03 GMT
a minutes silence during the game at 20 minutes would beat anything else
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Sept 6, 2015 12:49:27 GMT
a minutes silence during the game at 20 minutes would beat anything else Wait till next week I hear Arsenal fans are doing a 90 minutes silence.
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