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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Sept 1, 2015 20:38:05 GMT
Wow i am a little surprised at so many who are happy with our window. If you look at the deals Outgoings in an over priced market when bang average players are fetching ridiculous fees Begovic sale come on how many would have predicted him being sold for less than 10m? Nzonzi sale he was our stellar man player of the season and the huge hole in midfield is there to see....compared to other deals he was an absolute snip I know these guys had to leave but surely they went at a cut price.....poor return on our best assets Huth sale decent fee for Robert but surely given Shawcross back problems and these were known before Huth left he would have been more valuable to us than being sold....poor business Incomings Johnson....good deal and signing improves us at right back 2 x Keepers good business for little outlay Wolly.....seemingly Hughes rated him but now is 5th choice to start...absolute disaster of a signing Afellay....he was free so we signed him. Not quick enough for a winger and we don't need yet another No 10...poor signing MVG........maybe not the direct Nzonzi replacement but will ave to often fill the big mans boots in midfield. Decent squad player but to ask him to influence games like Nzonzi is naive. He was seemingly an 'ok we will take him' choice as our first choice as a loanee as part of the Bego deal was the Arse cheek lad who plays wide only Chelsea wouldn't let him go out on loan. Also the fact that Hughes was scrambling around at a few minutes to 6 to bring in more midfield reinforcements suggest we fucked up big time in improving our midfield Joselu....can only be one for the future still behind Crouch for me and puts no pressure whatsoever on Diouf as the main striker...poor signing Shaq......Absolute rock the city signing. Thankfully if that deal had gone pear shaped wtf??!!! The Squad is unbalanced Lack a decent 3rd wide player No back up for Whelan lets hope he doesn't get injured No attempt to even find a decent replacement for Nzonzi No decent striker to compete with Diouf...lets hope he doesn't get injured either! No leader at the back of the defense in front of an inexperienced keeper We spent net 3m in an age where clubs are awash with money Bet 365 will be delighted. Clearly the window has been dictated by financial constraints and we have missed a major opportunity to progress. we will be OK but if Mark Hughes can engineer an improvement on last season he truly is a magician. I doubt he will though. Poor window missed opportunity Youve basically put there how I feel. I don't know whether to say I 100% agree with this or just thanks for putting down what I wanted say Mate i would say that's how a lot/most Stokies feel right now but apparently we're knicker wetters
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 1, 2015 20:39:32 GMT
And I answered your question. But then you went on about him being a potentially a good player, which really didn't have any relevance to anything I'd said on this thread. If you've got an issue with people who don't rate him, take it up with them Dave. I'm really not sure why we're having this conversation. Conversations evolve don't they? I didn't realise that you were so important that having had my one question answered that was my lot. I'll leave you to it! Jesus Dave.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 1, 2015 20:39:47 GMT
Maybe you should be quoting them and not me then mate ... You're dragging me into a beef that's got fook all to do with me! Be careful Paul because Johnno is on the warpath because someone had the nerve to mention 45 points Was that you who mentioned that? I was laughing so much at that being considered a poor season that I hadn't noticed who was daft enough to post it. :-)
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Sept 1, 2015 20:42:48 GMT
Be careful Paul because Johnno is on the warpath because someone had the nerve to mention 45 points Was that you who mentioned that? I was laughing so much at that being considered a poor season that I hadn't noticed who was daft enough to post it. :-) No it was your mate Paul and i said i'd snap his hand off at this present time
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 20:43:38 GMT
Youve basically put there how I feel. I don't know whether to say I 100% agree with this or just thanks for putting down what I wanted say Mate i would say that's how a lot/most Stokies feel right now but apparently we're knicker wetters Ive noticed mate. It seems you can't have a slight concern without the usual suspects trying spoil threads. I've been banging the drum ever since nzonzi left that we have to replace him. I'm not slating mvg as I think he will become a cracking player, but we needed someone now with steel and someone who can control the pace of our play. Mvg lacks the experience yet. As for letting huth go and replacing him with wally. I could actually cry.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Sept 1, 2015 20:45:25 GMT
Mate i would say that's how a lot/most Stokies feel right now but apparently we're knicker wetters Ive noticed mate. It seems you can't have a slight concern without the usual suspects trying spoil threads. I've been banging the drum ever since nzonzi left that we have to replace him. I'm not slating mvg as I think he will become a cracking player, but we needed someone now with steel and someone who can control the pace of our play. Mvg lacks the experience yet. As for letting huth go and replacing him with wally. I could actually cry. I'm glad you've noticed as well and agree with all that especially the last part
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 1, 2015 20:46:54 GMT
Mark Langdon (Football Editor on The Racing Post) has just expressed some reservations with our window activities on talksport. Said we look a bit unbalanced and haven't replaced N'Zonzi and surprised we weren't busy today.
There's your independent professional tipsters view
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 1, 2015 20:47:19 GMT
Was that you who mentioned that? I was laughing so much at that being considered a poor season that I hadn't noticed who was daft enough to post it. :-) No it was your mate Paul and i said i'd snap his hand off at this present time Even better :-) I've met Paul on one occasion. He's a thoroughly decent chap a massive stokie. The context of certain things get lost on here but 45 points would be a disappointing rather than poor season but Tha barometer doesn't put me on any warpath.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 1, 2015 20:49:28 GMT
If managing a football club was easy we would all do it many try many fail few succeed and the ones that do often dont quit before there time is up and fall from grace. Mistakes happen and in the mercenary world of english football what once would have been resolved by a sweet talking manager or a little sweetner now needs millions more for adverage players,look at utd now one recognized striker not even playing as a striker they have lost van persie and Hernandez and replaced with 40mill worth of unknown there goalkeepers move was fucked up by an inability to download winrar and they still aint signed a decent cb in 2 seasons,chelsea couldnt get there first or second choice defenders arsenal couldnt spend any money again scrooge mcwenger sitting on the gold. But again we look at other clubs blowing cash left right and centre trying to be us from the last two seasons. I do conceed that we lack an adequate cover for Glenn but the club tryed to rectify it however it has failed to happen but a war chest still remains for jan when our skipper should return like a new signing and the club will move on remember evolution not revolution by that i mean all of us on here not the club Man Yoo have had a clusterfuck of a window! We left it to the last day and then in true Stoke of the last 3 years style we couldn't afford it. War chest? You're joking right? The war chest has more layers than a Russian doll.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Sept 1, 2015 20:49:49 GMT
No it was your mate Paul and i said i'd snap his hand off at this present time Even better :-) I've met Paul on one occasion. He's a thoroughly decent chap a massive stokie. The context of certain things get lost on here but 45 points would be a disappointing rather than poor season but Tha barometer doesn't put me on any warpath. We all want the same dave that's for sure and Paul comes across as a top poster on here.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 1, 2015 20:49:59 GMT
Conversations evolve don't they? I didn't realise that you were so important that having had my one question answered that was my lot. I'll leave you to it! Jesus Dave. It was a joke mate.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 1, 2015 20:52:28 GMT
Even better :-) I've met Paul on one occasion. He's a thoroughly decent chap a massive stokie. The context of certain things get lost on here but 45 points would be a disappointing rather than poor season but Tha barometer doesn't put me on any warpath. We all want the same dave that's for sure and Paul comes across as a top poster on here. Hence I hoped to converse with him instead of some of the other idiots who frequent this place at the moment.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Sept 1, 2015 20:53:44 GMT
We all want the same dave that's for sure and Paul comes across as a top poster on here. Hence I opted to converse with him instead of some of the other idiots who frequent this place at the moment. Fair enough mate
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 1, 2015 20:57:54 GMT
Mark Langdon (Football Editor on The Racing Post) has just expressed some reservations with our window activities on talksport. Said we look a bit unbalanced and haven't replaced N'Zonzi and surprised we weren't busy today. There's your independent professional tipsters view and he knows his onions. On the Wollschied thing, it's appears (maybe plainly obvious) that we had to sign him if we wanted the initial loan. We needed an experienced CB at the time due to crippling injuries. It now seems that the manager has massive reservations about hm especially playing behind a new midfield pairing that has yet to gel properly. The bloke isn't a bad player, but it's obvious he's not the answer with our current set up.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Sept 1, 2015 21:01:32 GMT
Mark Langdon (Football Editor on The Racing Post) has just expressed some reservations with our window activities on talksport. Said we look a bit unbalanced and haven't replaced N'Zonzi and surprised we weren't busy today. There's your independent professional tipsters view and he knows his onions. On the Wollschied thing, it's appears (maybe plainly obvious) that we had to sign him if we wanted the initial loan. We needed an experienced CB at the time due to crippling injuries. It now seems that the manager has massive reservations about hm especially playing behind a new midfield pairing that has yet to gel properly. The bloke isn't a bad player, but it's obvious he's not the answer with our current set up. Not heard you as downbeat for a while mate
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 1, 2015 21:10:24 GMT
and he knows his onions. On the Wollschied thing, it's appears (maybe plainly obvious) that we had to sign him if we wanted the initial loan. We needed an experienced CB at the time due to crippling injuries. It now seems that the manager has massive reservations about hm especially playing behind a new midfield pairing that has yet to gel properly. The bloke isn't a bad player, but it's obvious he's not the answer with our current set up. Not heard you as downbeat for a while mate A bit pissed off with the club mate not the manager - all this talk from Scholes about shopping at the next level was/is total bollocks. I believe we've signed some good players, not necessarily the right ones for us. Not replacing N'Zonzi with a battle hardened experienced player is a mistake, a big one. It's not as if we haven't got the money - we're dripping in it. We could of shelled out on 2 or 3 top quality players for decent money that would of made a real difference. Instead I get the feeling we've missed the boat AGAIN. Put it this way, if we still had Zonz and Ryan was fit, with the signing of Shaqiri and Bojan coming back, I think we could of pushed for top 7. Now I think it will be 12th to 14th. Then you're starting again and finding it impossible to make signings like Shaqiri again.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Sept 1, 2015 21:13:08 GMT
Not heard you as downbeat for a while mate A bit pissed off with the club mate not the manager - all this talk from Scholes about shopping at the next level was/is total bollocks. I believe we've signed some good players, not necessarily the right ones for us. Not replacing N'Zonzi with a battle hardened experienced player is a mistake, a big one. It's not as if we haven't got the money - we're dripping in it. We could of shelled out on 2 or 3 top quality players for decent money that would of made a real difference. Instead I get the feeling we've missed the boat AGAIN. Can't really disagree with that mate tbh
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 1, 2015 21:14:40 GMT
we are at very best a Bottom 5 sqiad now the media coverage now is just the beginning as they sense blood that translates to Players and supporters and the spiral begins . The question is what breaks if .
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 1, 2015 21:15:41 GMT
we are at very best a Bottom 5 sqiad now the media coverage now is just the beginning as they sense blood that translates to Players and supporters and the spiral begins . The question is what breaks if . Total and utter bollocks sunshine. Bullshit.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 1, 2015 21:21:43 GMT
we are at very best a Bottom 5 sqiad now the media coverage now is just the beginning as they sense blood that translates to Players and supporters and the spiral begins . The question is what breaks if . Can you remember what your prediction was this time last season Benji? Oh and while you're at it, can you remember your prediction at this time the season before last as well?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 1, 2015 21:22:31 GMT
We shall see pugs we shall see .' In sure you said £5m net was bollocks too .
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 1, 2015 21:24:03 GMT
we are at very best a Bottom 5 sqiad now the media coverage now is just the beginning as they sense blood that translates to Players and supporters and the spiral begins . The question is what breaks if . Is there a limit to the amount of posts that you can bookmark because its going to be a lot of fun highlighting just what a prize pillock you really are later in the season.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 1, 2015 21:24:14 GMT
We shall see pugs we shall see .' In sure you said £5m net was bollocks too . I've issues with the lack of real money spent yes. But a bottom 5 squad? Sorry, that's utter rubbish.
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Post by Skankmonkey on Sept 1, 2015 21:24:50 GMT
FFS. I'm out.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 1, 2015 21:27:38 GMT
We have ignored gravity for 6 windows and she is knocking on the door expecting payment .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 21:29:10 GMT
we are at very best a Bottom 5 sqiad now the media coverage now is just the beginning as they sense blood that translates to Players and supporters and the spiral begins . The question is what breaks if . 'The question is what breaks if?' BenjaminBiscuit, asking those tough questions that no ones else dares to........
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 1, 2015 21:31:51 GMT
We have ignored gravity for 6 windows and she is knocking on the door expecting payment . Jesus Hates Christ you are a massively pretentious weapon.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 1, 2015 21:31:39 GMT
Prestwich
A whole sentence without cunt in it well done !
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 1, 2015 21:32:04 GMT
What is your favourite biscuit Benjamin?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 1, 2015 21:32:00 GMT
We have ignored gravity for 6 windows and she is knocking on the door expecting payment . Yeah you said that last season AND the season before last and yet we finished further away from the trap door than we ever had done before on both occasions.
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