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Post by peterthornesboots on Aug 29, 2015 22:54:17 GMT
Said idiots only! Don't tempt fate my friend! We haven't kept a clean sheet all season and if we don't pick up at least 4 points in our next two home games (which is no guarantee against Leicester and Bournemouth!) then we find ourselves with no momentum. Two massive home games ahead now! Teams at the bottom of the table at the start of the season are there at the end. Recently, that's AVFC, Sunderland and a few other suspects. To pretend all will be rosy in the garden is wishful thinking?! Agreed When you make a poor start and you end up with no momentum then it can be hard to pull yourself out of the dog fight. I think that we will be fine, but by gawd we need to grab a win quick to get us up and running!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 29, 2015 22:55:30 GMT
Night night girls
Good to see a fair share of realists emerging because we don't see everything as rosy doesn't mean we care any less
Long lomg day
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Post by peterthornesboots on Aug 29, 2015 22:58:34 GMT
Said idiots only! Don't tempt fate my friend! We haven't kept a clean sheet all season and if we don't pick up at least 4 points in our next two home games (which is no guarantee against Leicester and Bournemouth!) then we find ourselves with no momentum. Two massive home games ahead now! A clean sheet all season? What about the 0-0 draw against Everton in the Singapore trophy To be fair its four games. I agree never say never regarding relegation but after 4 games there's no point in predicting anything. That table will shuffle like a random playlist on my iPod. I agree entirely! But I don't think that we will win at the Emirates. Then, with our recent history at home vs bottom half teams last season, a failure to beat Leicester and Bournemouth would leave us deep in the mire! It's all if's, but's and maybe's but it's easy for anyone to get sucked into that bottom group!
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Post by redstriper on Aug 29, 2015 22:59:17 GMT
Hmmm... its a forum , so there is room for different opinions.
However, the problem is biscuit you never have anything positive to say, so I'm dismissing your entire contribution as attention seeking, agenda led, drivel.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 29, 2015 22:59:14 GMT
Do you realise that Judas's net spend was -30 pieces of silver? Benjie:The gift, that keeps on giving!
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 29, 2015 23:02:49 GMT
We're too strong a squad to be relegated Said idiots only! Don't tempt fate my friend! We haven't kept a clean sheet all season and if we don't pick up at least 4 points in our next two home games (which is no guarantee against Leicester and Bournemouth!) then we find ourselves with no momentum. Two massive home games ahead now! watford & bouenemouth will struggle when they get injuries. Don't be mistaken though im more than well aware that this season won't be an easy one hence the reason ive been banging on about a centre half, centre mid and keeping walters
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Post by peterthornesboots on Aug 29, 2015 23:05:19 GMT
Said idiots only! Don't tempt fate my friend! We haven't kept a clean sheet all season and if we don't pick up at least 4 points in our next two home games (which is no guarantee against Leicester and Bournemouth!) then we find ourselves with no momentum. Two massive home games ahead now! watford & bouenemouth will struggle when they get injuries. Don't be mistaken though im more than well aware that this season won't be an easy one hence the reason ive been banging on about a centre half, centre mid and keeping walters I don't think that its just about avoiding relegation, it's also about the mindset of our players. Would Bojan, Shaqiri et al. be happy to be playing for a side battling go avoid relegation? If we finish low down the table then that reduces our attractiveness to new recruits and targets.
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Post by Bowyer83 on Aug 29, 2015 23:07:16 GMT
A clean sheet all season? What about the 0-0 draw against Everton in the Singapore trophy To be fair its four games. I agree never say never regarding relegation but after 4 games there's no point in predicting anything. That table will shuffle like a random playlist on my iPod. I agree entirely! But I don't think that we will win at the Emirates. Then, with our recent history at home vs bottom half teams last season, a failure to beat Leicester and Bournemouth would leave us deep in the mire! It's all if's, but's and maybe's but it's easy for anyone to get sucked into that bottom group! Knowing Stoke we will beat Arsenal and Leicester the lose to Bournemouth by a Shitty stick deflection set piece. That's what makes the PL journey so exciting the highs and the lows. In all honesty since playing in this league every year we seem to go on a little run accumulating a few important points. Im not saying we can't go down, I am saying we won't because of the strength in character of some of our players some returning from injuries, suspensions and newcomer's finding there feet. As you say its all opinions.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 29, 2015 23:09:59 GMT
watford & bouenemouth will struggle when they get injuries. Don't be mistaken though im more than well aware that this season won't be an easy one hence the reason ive been banging on about a centre half, centre mid and keeping walters I don't think that its just about avoiding relegation, it's also about the mindset of our players. Would Bojan, Shaqiri et al. be happy to be playing for a side battling go avoid relegation? If we finish low down the table then that reduces our attractiveness to new recruits and targets. absolutely. Im more concerned wether all these new lads have got the stomach for a scrap, we have had a solid core of the same players with that in their make up for the past few years, they are slowly departing for one reason or another. I think we have to be better than sunderland, bournenouth & watford though and if not it would be a huge fall from grace
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Post by peterthornesboots on Aug 29, 2015 23:12:13 GMT
I don't think that its just about avoiding relegation, it's also about the mindset of our players. Would Bojan, Shaqiri et al. be happy to be playing for a side battling go avoid relegation? If we finish low down the table then that reduces our attractiveness to new recruits and targets. absolutely. Im more concerned wether all these new lads have got the stomach for a scrap, we have had a solid core of the same players with that in their make up for the past few years, they are slowly departing for one reason or another. I think we have to be better than sunderland, bournenouth & watford though and if not it would be a huge fall from grace Which is why players like Walters and Whelan are so vital to us. When the going gets tough it's the core players that tend to pull us up!
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 29, 2015 23:18:01 GMT
absolutely. Im more concerned wether all these new lads have got the stomach for a scrap, we have had a solid core of the same players with that in their make up for the past few years, they are slowly departing for one reason or another. I think we have to be better than sunderland, bournenouth & watford though and if not it would be a huge fall from grace Which is why players like Walters and Whelan are so vital to us. When the going gets tough it's the core players that tend to pull us up! yep, totally agree. I do wonder say if whelan gets injured what happens then because he's doing more than his share very well at the moment. Who in the current squad can replace him if he's out for any period. We're riding our luck for sure for me if we dont add players and loan or sell a couple before the window shuts
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 29, 2015 23:17:58 GMT
The brutal truth is that Benji is nothing more than a troll and should have been sent to the great messageboard in the sky with Tazi and Stafford a while back.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Aug 29, 2015 23:20:11 GMT
Which is why players like Walters and Whelan are so vital to us. When the going gets tough it's the core players that tend to pull us up! yep, totally agree. I do wonder say if whelan gets injured what happens then because he's doing more than his share very well at the moment. Who in the current squad can replace him if he's out for any period. We're riding our luck for sure for me if we dont add players and loan or sell a couple before the window shuts I think that is a great point regarding Whelan. The obviously replacement would be Sidwell (who looks a million miles away from first team football at the moment). But then who else? Cameron maybe? Everyone else is pretty much attack minded!
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Post by lennythegoose on Aug 29, 2015 23:20:21 GMT
Aargh, this is 4 pages in and I still don't get Point 6. We had 4 points this time last year not 10 or am I being thick?
BB, your hyperbolic language is somewhat frustrating and clearly used simply (and unnecessarily) to strengthen your arguments. I can see why people get so offended but I won't bother throwing insults.
One question, are you my mother, Barbara? She is the most negative, fearful Stoke fan I know. She was biting her nails when Gerard scored last season, fearing a comeback.
This season's start feels similar to last seasons. I think we dominated possession against both Hull and Leicester and didn't really seem like scoring.
We have the same points as Sunderland but we haven't been smashed in any game, therefore the comparison to a 'catastrophic' start is exaggeration.
QPR went 16 games or so without a win. 4 games isn't the very edge of that. It's not even the edge.
I agree we seem somewhat unbalanced but not alarmingly so. Hughes clearly doesn't yet know his strongest line up in terms of what gels - availability and players new to the EPL doesn't make this that surprising.
I share your disappointment and worry but at far more rational levels.
Unfortunately, we haven't been able to carry the impressive second half form against Spurs into the following games, although today was a victim of circumstance.
Personally, I think the suspensions that will come out of today will help force The managers hand in a positive manner. I'm not convinced yet by Afellay and I really do think we need to find a place for SJW as he is key to our DNA along with Whelan.
I think we need another significant signing. One big signing per close season now seems to be insufficient given the activity that the competition is undertaking.
At least pour a dribble of liquid in your glass...
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Post by feedtheshaq on Aug 29, 2015 23:22:48 GMT
The brutal truth is that Benji is nothing more than a troll and should have been sent to the great messageboard in the sky with Tazi and Stafford a while back. Is that where rvd went before people begged you to come back?
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Post by Davef on Aug 29, 2015 23:23:21 GMT
I don't think that its just about avoiding relegation, it's also about the mindset of our players. Would Bojan, Shaqiri et al. be happy to be playing for a side battling go avoid relegation? If we finish low down the table then that reduces our attractiveness to new recruits and targets. absolutely. Im more concerned wether all these new lads have got the stomach for a scrap, we have had a solid core of the same players with that in their make up for the past few years, they are slowly departing for one reason or another. I think we have to be better than sunderland, bournenouth & watford though and if not it would be a huge fall from grace If you think Stoke's players haven't got the stomach for a fight, then you either haven't watched today's game or you're a trolling dimwit. Which one is it?
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 29, 2015 23:26:29 GMT
absolutely. Im more concerned wether all these new lads have got the stomach for a scrap, we have had a solid core of the same players with that in their make up for the past few years, they are slowly departing for one reason or another. I think we have to be better than sunderland, bournenouth & watford though and if not it would be a huge fall from grace If you think Stoke's players haven't got the stomach for a fight, then you either haven't watched today's game or you're a trolling dimwit. Which one is it? we were going to be the bollocks according to you, run along your fucking deluded. You wont believe it until its happening
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Post by Davef on Aug 29, 2015 23:27:48 GMT
If you think Stoke's players haven't got the stomach for a fight, then you either haven't watched today's game or you're a trolling dimwit. Which one is it? we were going to be the bollocks according to you, run along your fucking deluded. You wont believe it until its happening Yeah, you're a trolling dimwit.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 29, 2015 23:27:53 GMT
The brutal truth is that Benji is nothing more than a troll and should have been sent to the great messageboard in the sky with Tazi and Stafford a while back. Is that where rvd went before people begged you to come back? I wondered if it was the same place Stokelad84 went when his true love got sacked. Then I remembered I was thinking of the West Brom messageboard.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 30, 2015 2:19:24 GMT
I don't know what you are Benji, but I know you aren't a supporter of Stoke City football club, I suggest you cart off up to Burslem and gently lower your sphincter onto Smurthwaite's dick.
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 30, 2015 6:00:55 GMT
Facts or just another instalment of your never-ending negativity about a club you profess to support? There's a difference between facts and slanted opinions. This board would be better off without him, there is no way he is a genuine Stoke supporter. I disagree Varying opinions all go to add spice and value on this board There are those - the vast majority - who are optimists and firmly believe that all will come good. Of course I hope that their assessment is the correct one and last season did prove them right There are a very few - with Benji leading that line banner in hand (waving it as frantically as that idiot lino yday) who are pessimists - all doom and gloom I viewmself as a realist and must admit that I am worried about the points tally so far; about the fact that we have lost 2 extremely important players (ryan temporarily and nzonzi permanently) who are being very sorely missed; that the other teams around us have advanced in leaps and bounds (palace and Swansea) It is still early days but we really need to start putting some points on the board as otherwise it could end up in a relegation scrap
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Post by trigger on Aug 30, 2015 7:18:25 GMT
Facts or just another instalment of your never-ending negativity about a club you profess to support? There's a difference between facts and slanted opinions. Here's a fact we moved seats to get away from "your" never ending boring, tiresome, self opininiated booming loud voice.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 30, 2015 7:26:31 GMT
This board would be better off without him, there is no way he is a genuine Stoke supporter. I disagree Varying opinions all go to add spice and value on this board There are those - the vast majority - who are optimists and firmly believe that all will come good. Of course I hope that their assessment is the correct one and last season did prove them right There are a very few - with Benji leading that line banner in hand (waving it as frantically as that idiot lino yday) who are pessimists - all doom and gloom I viewmself as a realist and must admit that I am worried about the points tally so far; about the fact that we have lost 2 extremely important players (ryan temporarily and nzonzi permanently) who are being very sorely missed; that the other teams around us have advanced in leaps and bounds (palace and Swansea) It is still early days but we really need to start putting some points on the board as otherwise it could end up in a relegation scrap It isn't his genuine opinion though. He's just a spammer who gets off on the attention..
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Post by werrington on Aug 30, 2015 7:35:29 GMT
Facts or just another instalment of your never-ending negativity about a club you profess to support? There's a difference between facts and slanted opinions. Here's a fact we moved seats to get away from "your" never ending boring, tiresome, self opininiated booming loud voice. Is there really any need for that trigger ?. But as a side point you are happy to use the message board he set up ?
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Post by Clem Fandango on Aug 30, 2015 7:48:42 GMT
So Benji whats the solution? I see a lot of pointing out what is wrong what do you think the solution should be?
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Post by pottermouth on Aug 30, 2015 8:26:11 GMT
1 2 points from 12 2 No clean sheets 3 None of the new players except arguably Johnson have added anything and look totally out of their depth in this league including the hugely insignificant shaq 4 we have conceded today from another simple cross 5 we look totally I'll equipped to deal with this league and the pace and hard nosed orofessionalsim it requires 6 we have no less than 8 points less than we did from the same fixtures last year 7 Even if we beat Leicester and Bournemouth assuming we lose at arsenal we will still only have 8 from 7 if we don't Then well below the relegation points per game hurdle 8 we don't look like scoring even when we dominate the ball 9 we chronically miss Moses , Nzonzi and shawcross Of course you can see this either way for me we are on ten very edge of a QPR like disaster start the pressure is building and those two home games are the most crucial I can recall . 10 Our start now matches Sunderland's catastrophic actually For me Cameron made a huge difference in midfield today and has to start there . Unequivocally we are materially weaker than last year as point 6 shows and the window is now shown up for the total disaster a few of us said it was we need to get something from those games if our season is not to implode . Your attention seeking knows no limits.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 30, 2015 8:28:32 GMT
If you think Stoke's players haven't got the stomach for a fight, then you either haven't watched today's game or you're a trolling dimwit. Which one is it? we were going to be the bollocks according to you, run along your fucking deluded. You wont believe it until its happening He's right you're a trolling dimwit.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 30, 2015 8:31:03 GMT
If you think Stoke's players haven't got the stomach for a fight, then you either haven't watched today's game or you're a trolling dimwit. Which one is it? we were going to be the bollocks according to you, run along your fucking deluded. You wont believe it until its happening You are an absolute bell end.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 8:31:58 GMT
we were going to be the bollocks according to you, run along your fucking deluded. You wont believe it until its happening You are an absolute bell end. Thats Tazi for you!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 8:40:16 GMT
Why do you say the "hugely insignificant shaq"?
He provided a great cross for Diouf's goal at Norwich and looked threatening yesterday with some great movement and a good attempt on goal.
What is your thinking Biscuit?
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