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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 18:39:58 GMT
Still.  |
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Post by hatchett on Aug 29, 2015 18:43:22 GMT
Not going to happen. Need to move on.
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Post by themistocles on Aug 29, 2015 18:43:54 GMT
Can honestly see no further signings happening , even with the future of Walters uncertain
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 18:49:47 GMT
We only need one addition now, and that's a winger if Walters leaves. Afellay proved that today.
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Post by stokiemarc on Aug 29, 2015 18:50:38 GMT
Not really what cost us the game was it. We were superb in that opening 30 mins, they only had one shot against the run of play.
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Post by stokiemarc on Aug 29, 2015 18:53:02 GMT
We only need one addition now, and that's a winger if Walters leaves. Afellay proved that today. Surely we should be speaking to Aaron Lennon and Spurs again about a loan |
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Post by kustokie on Aug 29, 2015 18:54:32 GMT
Still. Erm? Why? Oh let me guess...Cameron was shite! Don't ever give up? |
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Post by kustokie on Aug 29, 2015 18:57:11 GMT
We only need one addition now, and that's a winger if Walters leaves. Afellay proved that today. Surely we should be speaking to Aaron Lennon and Spurs again about a loan Let's hope Hughes gives Affelay a big bollocking and he learns his lesson. Unfortunately at 29 he may be too old or too dumb to realize what he did. |
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Post by kustokie on Aug 29, 2015 19:00:02 GMT
Makes Sparky's job of team selection a lot easier in MF:
Whelan Van Ginkel
Shaquri Ireland Arnie
Bit short on the bench though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 19:02:16 GMT
Still. Erm? Why? Oh let me guess...Cameron was shite! Don't ever give up? He made another mistake for another goal. And one he makes pretty regularly. He's shown time and time again that he's got a habit of letting people ghost in on him on his blindside. And by the time he realises his man is there it's too late. He defended well overall but these mistakes are getting very annoying because they're what he does, they're systematic of his game. |
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Post by Northy on Aug 29, 2015 19:05:47 GMT
Makes Sparky's job of team selection a lot easier in MF: Whelan Van Ginkel Shaquri Ireland Arnie Bit short on the bench though. I wouldn't call Crouch short  |
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Post by kustokie on Aug 29, 2015 19:09:12 GMT
Erm? Why? Oh let me guess...Cameron was shite! Don't ever give up? He made another mistake for another goal. And one he makes pretty regularly. He's shown time and time again that he's got a habit of letting people ghost in on him on his blindside. And by the time he realises his man is there it's too late. He defended well overall but these mistakes are getting very annoying because they're what he does, they're systematic of his game. (whiteflag)You may be right. However, he may not be the best CB in the world; unfortunately he's the best availbale at the present time. I listened to Dennis Smith on Praise and Grumble after the Norwich game and he put his finger on the issue (and he should know). The job description is a) big, strong defender to play along side Muni, b) wants to leave and c) willing to sit on the bench when Shawcross returns. So name someone that fits all three; otherwise, shut it! And don't say Wescott because he's a donkey. |
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Post by philm87 on Aug 29, 2015 19:11:52 GMT
I think we may have become accustomed to an unusually high standard of defending because we have had 7 years of Shawcross (as well as Faye and Huth).
None of our CBs are atrocious. They are just very average defensively, but decent on the ball. They have good games and bad games. Sometimes they make mistakes and occasionally those mistakes cost you. It is what most teams at this level should be used to, accept we have never had to worry about it before because we had Ryan Shawcross.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 19:28:01 GMT
He made another mistake for another goal. And one he makes pretty regularly. He's shown time and time again that he's got a habit of letting people ghost in on him on his blindside. And by the time he realises his man is there it's too late. He defended well overall but these mistakes are getting very annoying because they're what he does, they're systematic of his game. (whiteflag)You may be right. However, he may not be the best CB in the world; unfortunately he's the best availbale at the present time. I listened to Dennis Smith on Praise and Grumble after the Norwich game and he put his finger on the issue (and he should know). The job description is a) big, strong defender to play along side Muni, b) wants to leave and c) willing to sit on the bench when Shawcross returns. So name someone that fits all three; otherwise, shut it! And don't say Wescott because he's a donkey. I disagree but the one that is, too is an error prone idiot. It's why we need a new centre back!  |
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Post by keysersoze on Aug 29, 2015 20:35:03 GMT
Wank
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 20:37:44 GMT
Yes, the makeshift centre halves we have are, that's why we need a specialised centre back for a specialised role! |
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Post by kustokie on Aug 29, 2015 21:27:36 GMT
Yes, the makeshift centre halves we have are, that's why we need a specialised centre back for a specialised role! Bayern: You are really smart , but on this one, you're not getting it! There isn't one available! Unless someone pulls a 6' 3", 13 stone rabbit out of a hat. They tried to find a back-up for Shawcross and couldn't find one (Hughes is not an idiot). Huth wasn't willing to sit on the bench. The best they could find find was Wollscheidt (shudder) and Teixiera (double shudder). Now either name someone that meets the job description or move on. I know you hate to be wrong and not having the last word, however you'll have to get used to it. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 21:30:53 GMT
Yes, the makeshift centre halves we have are, that's why we need a specialised centre back for a specialised role! Bayern: You are really smart , but on this one, you're not getting it! There isn't one available! Unless someone pulls a 6' 3", 13 stone rabbit out of a hat. They tried to find a back-up for Shawcross and couldn't find one (Hughes is not an idiot). Huth wasn't willing to sit on the bench. The best they could find find was Wollscheidt (shudder) and Teixiera (double shudder). Now either name someone that meets the job description or move on. I know you hate to be wrong and not having the last word, however you'll have to get used to it. Lescott would do. How do you know that about Huth other than the supposition that has been mentioned? I do know for a fact that we had massive fears Shawcross would be fucked when we sold Huth. We then bought a bloke who can't make the bench. Wrong? If we don't sign a centre we will continue to lose games. |
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Post by Linx on Aug 29, 2015 21:32:40 GMT
Our back four were superb today. Another centre back is not a priority.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 21:34:48 GMT
Our back four were superb today. Another centre back is not a priority. You're happy with Cameron there until January? |
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Post by Linx on Aug 29, 2015 21:49:58 GMT
Our back four were superb today. Another centre back is not a priority. You're happy with Cameron there until January? No. But I'm okay with the options we have until January. We are not going to get a quality CB to sign if he knows that he is only a stop gap until Ryan returns; and we all pretty much agree that Ryan + Muniesa is probably our best pairing, and Hughes is not going to want two Ryan-type players at the heart of our defence, hence Huthie going. The fact is that our defence, even after the re-shuffle necessitated by Johnson being replaced by Wilson, were superb with the odds stacked against them. It could have been an Alamo situation, like we witnessed under TP in 2008 at Anfield, but they kept their cool, played it out from the back, and stymied any attempts by WBA to increase the score. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 21:52:50 GMT
You're happy with Cameron there until January? No. But I'm okay with the options we have until January. We are not going to get a quality CB to sign if he knows that he is only a stop gap until Ryan returns; and we all pretty much agree that Ryan + Muniesa is probably our best pairing, and Hughes is not going to want two Ryan-type players at the heart of our defence, hence Huthie going. The fact is that our defence, even after the re-shuffle necessitated by Johnson being replaced by Wilson, were superb with the odds stacked against them. It could have been an Alamo situation, like we witnessed under TP in 2008 at Anfield, but they kept their cool, played it out from the back, and stymied any attempts by WBA to increase the score. Why are they just going to be a stop gap? The other centre back we have is made of glass, Ryan may never come back the same player from injury. It's a great opportunity for someone. |
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 29, 2015 21:56:07 GMT
Back injuries are often recurring it would make perfect sense to spend top dollar on another
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 29, 2015 21:58:33 GMT
Our back four were superb today. Another centre back is not a priority. You're happy with Cameron there until January? Yes, I thought he was great today. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 21:58:53 GMT
You're happy with Cameron there until January? Yes, I thought he was great today. Bar the goal right? You know the one where he lost his man and then he scored? |
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 29, 2015 22:00:08 GMT
Our back four were superb today. Another centre back is not a priority. You're happy with Cameron there until January? More than happy, creating scoring chances is a far bigger issue. |
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Post by Linx on Aug 29, 2015 22:00:38 GMT
It's an orrportunity that is not there. I will be amazed if Hughes pulls a CB out of the hat before Wednesday. I am not an ITK, but I don't see anything to suggest that he sees it as a priority and I would agree with that, based on today's performance. I am more concerned about our midfield gelling; we still miss Nzonzi but I remain hopeful that MVG will get his act together.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 22:01:29 GMT
You're happy with Cameron there until January? More than happy, creating scoring chances is a far bigger issue. That is an issue but so is conceding stupid goals, Cameron is a big part of that. |
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 29, 2015 22:08:58 GMT
More than happy, creating scoring chances is a far bigger issue. That is an issue but so is conceding stupid goals, Cameron is a big part of that. It's a fucking big issue, after 4 games we've scored 3 goals. You're not not going to win many points if you can't score. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 22:23:13 GMT
That is an issue but so is conceding stupid goals, Cameron is a big part of that. It's a fucking big issue, after 4 games we've scored 3 goals. You're not not going to win many points if you can't score. And you're not if you going to concede 1 a game either. |
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