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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 29, 2015 18:19:35 GMT
We'll be ok.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 18:20:55 GMT
The dickheads being Pulis & Oliver
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 29, 2015 18:21:20 GMT
Guessing the dick heads are oliver and Pulis
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 29, 2015 18:21:53 GMT
The dickheads being Pulis & Oliver
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Post by iplayinthehole on Aug 29, 2015 18:22:10 GMT
As a positive outside of the obvious, I was really impressed with Arnie down the middle.
Food for thought
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 29, 2015 18:22:12 GMT
I should really wait to see it but I aren't sure that Adam did a lot wrong.
With the affellay incident it was clear as day that both players did exactly the same thing. Neither or both should have seen red.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 29, 2015 18:22:09 GMT
The dickheads are a bit closer to home.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 29, 2015 18:23:12 GMT
As a positive outside of the obvious, I was really impressed with Arnie down the middle. Food for thought So was I. He was magnificent...but that free kick at the end was worse than wank.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 29, 2015 18:23:36 GMT
especially his free kick !!! lol to be fair hid did very well just wish he was a consistent finisher needs to improve to play there
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 29, 2015 18:25:32 GMT
Of all the days to have 2 players sent off.Adam really should know better especially when we've already lost Affelay to absolute petulance
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 29, 2015 20:33:09 GMT
I'm waiting to watch MOTD before making a judgement, but Adam has done so many of those sneaky stamps when 'losing his balance' that, just like Shawcross and his holding in the box, it becomes something that refs can go out of their way to see (In fact I think it was the same ref that penalised Ryan against Swansea).
When you're already down to 10 men due to an act of stupidity, it's idiotic to even give the ref a decision to make on another red. I hope that Charlie was completely innocent on this occasion, but I'm dubious given that he does have previous for this kind of thing.
Agree totally with your verdict though, Sheikh. We've opened the season with 3 tough fixtures and been on the wrong end of a freak series of events in our 4th. That's the way it goes sometimes, and I'm not at all worried that we'll be anything other than fine this season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 20:37:03 GMT
I'm waiting to watch MOTD before making a judgement, but Adam has done so many of those sneaky stamps when 'losing his balance' that, just like Shawcross and his holding in the box, it becomes something that refs can go out of their way to see (In fact I think it was the same ref that penalised Ryan against Swansea). When you're already down to 10 men due to an act of stupidity, it's idiotic to even give the ref a decision to make on another red. I hope that Charlie was completely innocent on this occasion, but I'm dubious given that he does have previous for this kind of thing. Agree totally with your verdict though, Sheikh. We've opened the season with 3 tough fixtures and been on the wrong end of a freak series of events in our 4th. That's the way it goes sometimes, and I'm not at all worried that we'll be anything other than fine this season. I'll be amazed if any Stoke fan still deems it a red card when they see it again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 20:39:15 GMT
I'm waiting to watch MOTD before making a judgement, but Adam has done so many of those sneaky stamps when 'losing his balance' that, just like Shawcross and his holding in the box, it becomes something that refs can go out of their way to see (In fact I think it was the same ref that penalised Ryan against Swansea). When you're already down to 10 men due to an act of stupidity, it's idiotic to even give the ref a decision to make on another red. I hope that Charlie was completely innocent on this occasion, but I'm dubious given that he does have previous for this kind of thing. Agree totally with your verdict though, Sheikh. We've opened the season with 3 tough fixtures and been on the wrong end of a freak series of events in our 4th. That's the way it goes sometimes, and I'm not at all worried that we'll be anything other than fine this season. Bang on in relation to the Adam incident. His reputation was always going to catch up with him, can think of a fair few times he has gotten away with something similar so I can't say he can feel too hard done by regardless of the severity of his actions today tbh.
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Post by ayem on Aug 29, 2015 20:44:34 GMT
I'm waiting to watch MOTD before making a judgement, but Adam has done so many of those sneaky stamps when 'losing his balance' that, just like Shawcross and his holding in the box, it becomes something that refs can go out of their way to see (In fact I think it was the same ref that penalised Ryan against Swansea). When you're already down to 10 men due to an act of stupidity, it's idiotic to even give the ref a decision to make on another red. I hope that Charlie was completely innocent on this occasion, but I'm dubious given that he does have previous for this kind of thing. Agree totally with your verdict though, Sheikh. We've opened the season with 3 tough fixtures and been on the wrong end of a freak series of events in our 4th. That's the way it goes sometimes, and I'm not at all worried that we'll be anything other than fine this season. I didn't think Adam deserved the red, watching replay after replay there was no effort to injure, his foot was there with enough pressure to balance himself. We've all seen players stamp (including Charlie) and I didn't see it there. But his reputation follows him, and it was dumb to even put a foot on the player, should've fallen down instead. He's at fault, but the look in the linesmen's eyes screamed retribution, like he was saving the world from the terrible Charlie Adam. Just like with his superb passes and amazing shots, Charlie Adam has to play like himself. He needs to understand that he has to play challenges and fights the same way, because he created Charlie Adam.
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Post by desman2 on Aug 29, 2015 21:04:25 GMT
As I said on another thread the linesman waved a foul. No one else even the West Brom player reacted but the linesman ran on and got all excited. This i believe gave Oliver the impression something serious had happened and it influenced the outcome. If he two players started fisticuffs yes but for the linesman to run on like that when no ones injured or nones protesting is shameful
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 21:09:11 GMT
Of all the days to have 2 players sent off.Adam really should know better especially when we've already lost Affelay to absolute petulance Adam really should know better than to do nothing wrong whatsoever.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 29, 2015 21:09:45 GMT
As I said on another thread the linesman waved a foul. No one else even the West Brom player reacted but the linesman ran on and got all excited. This i believe gave Oliver the impression something serious had happened and it influenced the outcome. If he two players started fisticuffs yes but for the linesman to run on like that when no ones injured or nones protesting is shameful Exactly this the linesman had a fucking orgasm when he knew he could get in on the act. The way he ran onto the pitch got Adam sent off. Little Oliver could do, really, if he didn't want to make the linesman look like a dick.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 29, 2015 21:10:26 GMT
Of all the days to have 2 players sent off.Adam really should know better especially when we've already lost Affelay to absolute petulance Adam really should know better than to do nothing wrong whatsoever. In your opinion
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 21:13:13 GMT
Adam really should know better than to do nothing wrong whatsoever. In your opinion Wait until you watch MOTD.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 21:15:38 GMT
Adam really should know better than to do nothing wrong whatsoever. In your opinion I've watched it probably 50 times from different angles and I can't decide whether it was an intentional stamp or not....I think probably not given the circumstances. The linesman therefore in the split second he has to see it out of the corner of his eye cannot make the decision he has. That makes him an utter fucking cunt.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 29, 2015 21:15:25 GMT
Wait until you watch MOTD. If i'm wrong mate i'll be the 1st to tell you so but his own reaction says it all for me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 21:17:13 GMT
Just a question.
Why wasn't action taken against the hand in the face from Gardner or the scissor tackle from Dawson?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 29, 2015 21:17:26 GMT
He gets the 'where else is he supposed to put his foot?' thing every time he does it.
He might want to have a crack at putting it somewhere else.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 21:17:50 GMT
I've watched it probably 50 times from different angles and I can't decide whether it was an intentional stamp or not....I think probably not given the circumstances. The linesman therefore in the split second he has to see it out of the corner of his eye cannot make the decision he has. That makes him an utter fucking cunt. Trouble is mate,there wasn't even a stamp in the first place,to even debate whether the stamp was intentional or not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 21:18:36 GMT
He gets the 'where else is he supposed to put his foot?' thing every time he does it. He might want to have a crack at putting it somewhere else. I take it you haven't seen it again yet then.
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 29, 2015 21:20:02 GMT
Having seen both again on match choice, neither are red cards!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 29, 2015 21:22:13 GMT
Wait until you watch MOTD. Just out of interest, if MOTD don't agree with you, are going to say fair play, or are you going to just simply say they're talking shit too?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 21:22:38 GMT
I wonder if Adam was going to stamp, and then decided against in the last split second. His foot comes into contact, with little pressure, on the player.
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Aug 29, 2015 21:23:12 GMT
He gets the 'where else is he supposed to put his foot?' thing every time he does it. He might want to have a crack at putting it somewhere else. C'mon Rob, I've seen it every time he's done something like this and thought 'ah well, you've got to walk for it', but this time it was inconclusive at best. Even if he meant to step on him it was done so gingerly that even on a slow motion close up replay its severely doubtful that he meant it. In light of that it's a terrible decision in my book. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 21:23:50 GMT
I've watched it probably 50 times from different angles and I can't decide whether it was an intentional stamp or not....I think probably not given the circumstances. The linesman therefore in the split second he has to see it out of the corner of his eye cannot make the decision he has. That makes him an utter fucking cunt. Trouble is mate,there wasn't even a stamp in the first place,to even debate whether the stamp was intentional or not. I think the lino sees Adams foot on his leg.....I don't know if that was intentional or not....if it is it's a stamp but be cannot make that call....its impossible. It's a rank bad, I want to be in the limelight decision. The first red is worse though. Football should be reffed the same from Sunday League to Premier League. It would be 5 a side on a Sunday if that's a red and that's what pisses me off. I just can't watch us or PL football anymore because of it.
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