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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 17:38:36 GMT
Why did Affelay and Adam even start? I just don't get it! Arnie and Ireland had to start, no hindsight or any of that bollocks, he just had to. You can't foresee their idiocy but neither should have been on the pitch anyway. Absolutely fucking infuriating!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 17:39:58 GMT
Why did Affelay and Adam even start? I just don't get it! Arnie and Ireland had to start, no hindsight or any of that bollocks, he just had to. You can't foresee their idiocy but neither should have been on the pitch anyway. Absolutely fucking infuriating! You are quite simply wrong. |
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Post by desman2 on Aug 29, 2015 17:40:50 GMT
Id have put Arnie on to use his strength
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Post by slother on Aug 29, 2015 17:42:06 GMT
Adam was having an excellent game.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 29, 2015 17:41:49 GMT
Sod knows, not sure what Ireland has to do to get a start, saying that he should get one now, I'm not at all sure what Afellay is these days, no way a winger anyway.
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Post by 2004 on Aug 29, 2015 17:44:03 GMT
Afellay and MVG in midfield does not work! Unbelievable that Hughes cannot see this.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 17:44:48 GMT
Why did Affelay and Adam even start? I just don't get it! Arnie and Ireland had to start, no hindsight or any of that bollocks, he just had to. You can't foresee their idiocy but neither should have been on the pitch anyway. Absolutely fucking infuriating! You are quite simply wrong. Nope. Affelay has been toss for us so far and clearly isn't a winger and can't cope with the physicality (as he showed today), there's no way in a million years he should have been anywhere near the side today. Ireland's been our best attacker, he should have started. |
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Aug 29, 2015 17:45:25 GMT
I was just about to start a new "blessing in disguise' thread. I think Hughes has been struggling with team selections and trying to keep everyone involved. The one silver lining from today's match is that he won't try and shoehorn Affelay in and Ireland should finally get to start in the middle. Bojan can then be eased in off the bench too. Sometimes it takes a bit of luck when dropping on your best side. It should be pretty much nailed on that Arnie, Ireland and Shaq will be the attacking 3 midw with Bojan coming on for Ireland in the next couple of games. Hopefully if they do a good job then Affelay and Adam will have to sit it out until the others play themselves out of the side.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 29, 2015 17:45:50 GMT
You don't get a lot of things.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 29, 2015 17:47:30 GMT
Hughes said after that Arnie's last 2 performances didn't warrant a starting place but he did very well today when he came on.Must agree about Affelay though because at the minute i'm really struggling to see what he offers us.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 29, 2015 17:48:02 GMT
Adam scares me every time he plays even though I like him and it was very harsh.
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Post by tuum on Aug 29, 2015 17:49:36 GMT
I was just about to start a new "blessing in disguise' thread. I think Hughes has been struggling with team selections and trying to keep everyone involved. The one silver lining from today's match is that he won't try and shoehorn Affelay in and Ireland should finally get to start in the middle. Bojan can then be eased in off the bench too. Sometimes it takes a bit of luck when dropping on your best side. It should be pretty much nailed on that Arnie, Ireland and Shaq will be the attacking 3 midw with Bojan coming on for Ireland in the next couple of games. Hopefully if they do a good job then Affelay and Adam will have to sit it out until the others play themselves out of the side. I tend to agree with this. I think deep down Hughes knows his best side but he was trying to shoehorn his new signings into the frame. I think the Afellay ban will prove to be a blessing. I don't expect him to return to the 1st XI after his ban and he will have to bide his time. At the moment he is just not good enough. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 17:49:41 GMT
Hughes said after that Arnie's last 2 performances didn't warrant a starting place but he did very well today when he came on.Must agree about Affelay though because at the minute i'm really struggling to see what he offers us. Which is fair enough if we have another left winger and if he wasn't 1 of 10 against Luton who were absolutely fucking dreadful. |
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Post by stokecitydom on Aug 29, 2015 18:02:52 GMT
Hughes said after that Arnie's last 2 performances didn't warrant a starting place but he did very well today when he came on.Must agree about Affelay though because at the minute i'm really struggling to see what he offers us. I can understand the logic behind that. However what exactly has Affelay done to warrant his continued place in the team? When I saw the teams i was annoyed that Arnie had been dropped, as there was no like for like replacement & no one who deserves to replace him. |
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 29, 2015 18:04:29 GMT
Why did Affelay and Adam even start? I just don't get it! Arnie and Ireland had to start, no hindsight or any of that bollocks, he just had to. You can't foresee their idiocy but neither should have been on the pitch anyway. Absolutely fucking infuriating! I agree with Bayern here. Afellay on the wing instead of Arnie and Van Ginkel with Adam... and Glenn covering... think about it. Weird setup. Ireland has been in majestical form why is he not starting? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 18:08:35 GMT
Why did Affelay and Adam even start? I just don't get it! Arnie and Ireland had to start, no hindsight or any of that bollocks, he just had to. You can't foresee their idiocy but neither should have been on the pitch anyway. Absolutely fucking infuriating! I agree with Bayern here. Afellay on the wing instead of Arnie and Van Ginkel with Adam... and Glenn covering... think about it. Weird setup. Ireland has been in majestical form why is he not starting? Only an idiot doesn't start Ireland today. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 29, 2015 18:11:18 GMT
Why did Affelay and Adam even start? I just don't get it! Arnie and Ireland had to start, no hindsight or any of that bollocks, he just had to. You can't foresee their idiocy but neither should have been on the pitch anyway. Absolutely fucking infuriating! Can understand why Arnie was left out after the two last games, but Ireland has been very good and deserved to start. That said Arnie was very good today after coming on.  Team vs. Arsenal: Jack Glen J. Marc W. Marc M. Eric Geoff Glen W. Shaq Stephen Arnie Mame |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 18:13:39 GMT
Why did Affelay and Adam even start? I just don't get it! Arnie and Ireland had to start, no hindsight or any of that bollocks, he just had to. You can't foresee their idiocy but neither should have been on the pitch anyway. Absolutely fucking infuriating! I'd have started Adam but Affelay has done nothing to merit a place on the bench never mind start.Don't know why Hughes bought him |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 18:14:05 GMT
Why did Affelay and Adam even start? I just don't get it! Arnie and Ireland had to start, no hindsight or any of that bollocks, he just had to. You can't foresee their idiocy but neither should have been on the pitch anyway. Absolutely fucking infuriating! Can understand why Arnie was left out after the two last games, but Ireland has been very good and deserved to start. That said Arnie was very good today after coming on. Team vs. Arsenal: Jack Glen J. Marc W. Marc M. Eric Geoff Glen W. Shaq Stephen Arnie Mame We've got no one else that can play on the left so he shouldn't have been dropped. Van Ginkel has to stay in the side, other than that's the team that has to play. Geoff dropped another bollock today, Wilson in. |
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 29, 2015 18:16:15 GMT
Why did Affelay and Adam even start? I just don't get it! Arnie and Ireland had to start, no hindsight or any of that bollocks, he just had to. You can't foresee their idiocy but neither should have been on the pitch anyway. Absolutely fucking infuriating! Can understand why Arnie was left out after the two last games, but Ireland has been very good and deserved to start. That said Arnie was very good today after coming on. Team vs. Arsenal: Jack Glen J. Marc W. Marc M. Eric Geoff Glen W. Shaq Stephen Arnie Mame That'd be my squad. We need someone who can bring it from box to box and currently Van Ginkel is just a step off the pace and a lil second touch off for me. |
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Aug 29, 2015 18:17:58 GMT
If Arnie could shoot I would play him as a number 9.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Aug 29, 2015 19:51:36 GMT
Sparky's team selection so far this season has been poor. His failure to play Ireland and to play Adam/Van Ginkle/Affelay is the forward midfield role is puzzling. Especially when you consider the excellent performance of Ireland off the bench vs Spurs.
While I'll admit Ireland isn't likely to produce a piece of match winning brilliance like Bojan and Adam. He does offer a lot of fluidity to the midfield compared to Adam. He has this ability to keep us ticking over which helps us keep the pressure on the opposition. Which makes his exclusion all the more confusing.
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Post by esol on Aug 29, 2015 20:39:15 GMT
The two reds pretty much eliminate the midfield selection dilemna. Could they be a blessing in disguise?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 20:43:17 GMT
The two reds pretty much eliminate the midfield selection dilemna. Could they be a blessing in disguise? A massive one! |
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Post by adamsson on Aug 29, 2015 21:01:39 GMT
As good as Ireland often is coming of the bench, I can't remember him having a good game when he starts
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 29, 2015 21:10:59 GMT
As good as Ireland often is coming of the bench, I can't remember him having a good game when he starts QPR last season? Tuesday night? |
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Post by StatesideStokie on Aug 30, 2015 12:51:02 GMT
Why did Affelay and Adam even start? I just don't get it! Arnie and Ireland had to start, no hindsight or any of that bollocks, he just had to. You can't foresee their idiocy but neither should have been on the pitch anyway. Absolutely fucking infuriating! Arnie was shocking against Luton,, didn't look remotely interested, he deserved to be dropped, and given the impact he had when he did come on, it was the right decision. He needs to know that he's not a guaranteed starter if he slacks off. As for Adam, he was having a good game and looked like our biggest threat until he was sent off. Thought Hughes got everything right yesterday, selection wise. |
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