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Post by Fred Ferret on Aug 29, 2015 18:52:24 GMT
Very smug - made yourself look a fool really - judging by other comments about your contribution. Oh behave yourself , and being fair quite a few think it was not a red for Adam. And saying Adam was a red because he has done it before is rubbish. One could be forgiven for thinking that you really think that Adam is a bloody angel and hard done by.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 18:57:31 GMT
Oh behave yourself , and being fair quite a few think it was not a red for Adam. And saying Adam was a red because he has done it before is rubbish. One could be forgiven for thinking that you really think that Adam is a bloody angel and hard done by. I and many others do if you took the time to read the thread rather than posting ! and I'm smug lol. I suppose you know he did it deliberately and your basing that on what ?
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Post by Northy on Aug 29, 2015 19:00:46 GMT
On the replay at the ground it looked as though Gardener slapped him first then he retaliated handbags, no excuse for him but why one a yellow and one a red ? Gardener tripped him up, slapped him, then later on booted the ball in the crowd after being flagged offside and only the 1 yellow, Afellay got a red for 1 out of 3, stupid as it was. Pulis targeted him and it worked, he'd been shoved into the hoardings a couple of minutes earlier and was still in rant mode I think. Pity that twat Oliver didn't have any balls to stamp it out earlier.
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Post by adamsson on Aug 29, 2015 19:31:37 GMT
Nothing in it for me. Both sendings off were extremely harsh. You cant hit people and you cant stamp on people end of story - Gardener should also have been sent off without question But you can trip them push them, kick them, wrestle them to the floor, shove them into the advertising hoardings and generally do whatever you want as long as you aren't wearing a Stoke shirt
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Post by feynmann2 on Aug 29, 2015 19:38:25 GMT
You cant hit people and you cant stamp on people end of story - Gardener should also have been sent off without question But you can trip them push them, kick them, wrestle them to the floor, shove them into the advertising hoardings and generally do whatever you want as long as you aren't wearing a Stoke shirt If the ref lets you I guess you can... Our two guys were stupid and got punished, particularly Adam who really should know better
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 19:39:25 GMT
You cant hit people and you cant stamp on people end of story - Gardener should also have been sent off without question But you can trip them push them, kick them, wrestle them to the floor, shove them into the advertising hoardings and generally do whatever you want as long as you aren't wearing a Stoke shirt I'd give it up mate. You are fighting a losing battle. Some on here just use incidents to satisfy their own agendas. We were hard done by and of that there can be no argument. I ask you whats worse, pushing someone in the face( it was hardly a slap) or barging someone into advertising hoardings? If Oliver had dealt with the original incident the second one would not have occurred, but its ok Affelay is a wanker.
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Post by feynmann2 on Aug 29, 2015 19:46:02 GMT
But you can trip them push them, kick them, wrestle them to the floor, shove them into the advertising hoardings and generally do whatever you want as long as you aren't wearing a Stoke shirt I'd give it up mate. You are fighting a losing battle. Some on here just use incidents to satisfy their own agendas. We were hard done by and of that there can be no argument. I ask you whats worse, pushing someone in the face( it was hardly a slap) or barging someone into advertising hoardings? If Oliver had dealt with the original incident the second one would not have occurred, but its ok Affelay is a wanker. No agenda I'm just absolutely fucking furious at the stupidity of our players...It is hardly a surprise that a TP team had done its homework and targeted a hot head who obligingly 'bit', and for Adam to then seek 'retribution' six minutes later was beyond ridiculous - particularly as it was clearly only a matter of time before we scored. These guys are paid 10'000's of pounds a week to act professionally, they singularly failed
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 29, 2015 19:48:09 GMT
But you can trip them push them, kick them, wrestle them to the floor, shove them into the advertising hoardings and generally do whatever you want as long as you aren't wearing a Stoke shirt I'd give it up mate. You are fighting a losing battle. Some on here just use incidents to satisfy their own agendas. We were hard done by and of that there can be no argument. I ask you whats worse, pushing someone in the face( it was hardly a slap) or barging someone into advertising hoardings? If Oliver had dealt with the original incident the second one would not have occurred, but its ok Affelay is a wanker. 100% this. That was certainly meant and could have injured a fellow professional. Afellay's transgression was about as hard as my six month old nephew slaps me in the face.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 22:53:52 GMT
Having now seen it here are my thoughts.
A red card is extremely harsh.
If one gets a red, both have to.
If I was the ref I wouldn't even book the pair of them, I'd just want to call them soft cunts and kick them in the bollocks for being absolute fannies of men.
Embarrassing from them two and the ref.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 29, 2015 22:57:07 GMT
Having now seen it here are my thoughts. A red card is extremely harsh. If one gets a red, both have to. If I was the ref I wouldn't even book the pair of them, I'd just want to call them soft cunts and kick them in the bollocks for being absolute fannies of men. Embarrassing from them two and the ref. Yep. Spot on. Adam was a naughty boy though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2015 22:59:12 GMT
Having now seen it here are my thoughts. A red card is extremely harsh. If one gets a red, both have to. If I was the ref I wouldn't even book the pair of them, I'd just want to call them soft cunts and kick them in the bollocks for being absolute fannies of men. Embarrassing from them two and the ref. Yep. Spot on. Adam was a naughty boy though. That one was right in front of me, I thought it was a sending off then, I do now. He knew exactly what he was doing and he's an absolute tit for it.
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Post by Bowyer83 on Aug 29, 2015 22:59:42 GMT
On the replay at the ground it looked as though Gardener slapped him first then he retaliated handbags, no excuse for him but why one a yellow and one a red ? This!
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Post by philm87 on Aug 29, 2015 23:17:44 GMT
I think Fletcher had a say in both decisions though. Straight away he was in the referee's facing shouting. It's how they are brought up at The Shit.
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Post by Northy on Aug 30, 2015 5:37:28 GMT
Yep. Spot on. Adam was a naughty boy though. That one was right in front of me, I thought it was a sending off then, I do now. He knew exactly what he was doing and he's an absolute tit for it. After seeing the replay on motd the linesman is already starting his run onto the pitch before charlie's boot comes down to rest on gardeners leg, K wonder why when nothing had really happened by then?
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Post by jeycov on Aug 30, 2015 6:33:15 GMT
I don't like to see players doing everything possible to get a fellow professional sent off. Listening to some of the post match comments on Sky and MOTD then Affelay would have been better off rolling on the floor holding his leg while other Stoke players surround Gardener.
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Post by Plave on Aug 30, 2015 7:00:43 GMT
I think Fletcher had a say in both decisions though. Straight away he was in the referee's facing shouting. It's how they are brought up at The Shit. Wound me up afterwards when Fletcher said "Michael made the correct decisions" or something along those lines. Not "the ref" but "Michael"
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Post by elliothackney on Aug 30, 2015 9:23:10 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 30, 2015 9:38:04 GMT
It's where we missed Walters who would have got up with a grin and taken retribution later same situation. WBA player far more likely to walk in the next 30 minutes and we keep 11 on the pitch .
It's yet another exposure of the windows nonsense and selling another hardened pro tomorrow will be utter folly
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Post by hollywood on Aug 30, 2015 10:43:15 GMT
Was provoked by Gardener, but no excuse for his childish behaviour! This has no doubt been done to death, but should a 50+ Holland caps player really get conned by gardener like that. Clipping his heels, clipping his face, holding his face after he was "struck"......Affelay just got completely mugged off by a talentless journeyman. Piss poor from him. Should know much better.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 30, 2015 10:48:56 GMT
It's where we missed Walters who would have got up with a grin and taken retribution later same situation. WBA player far more likely to walk in the next 30 minutes and we keep 11 on the pitch . It's yet another exposure of the windows nonsense and selling another hardened pro tomorrow will be utter folly How have you turned a red card into being to blame for the transfer window? Are you tripping?
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Aug 30, 2015 10:55:24 GMT
Classic Pulis to target "soft foreigners" and rough them up a bit. Nothing wrong with that - we did it all the time under his management, and we loved it.
The blame lies on Afellay for taking the bait.
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Post by march4 on Aug 30, 2015 11:08:07 GMT
Classic Pulis to target "soft foreigners" and rough them up a bit. Nothing wrong with that - we did it all the time under his management, and we loved it. The blame lies on Afellay for taking the bait. Correct. Football is contest between human beings. I hope Afellay is training with the Academy kids for the next fortnight and his wages go to the Donna Louise. He has been an accident waiting to happen after his spats vs Liverpool and Norwich.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 30, 2015 11:11:58 GMT
Well one thing is for sure he is going to be targeted every time he plays now
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 30, 2015 11:31:56 GMT
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Post by march4 on Aug 30, 2015 11:34:41 GMT
Afellay has got a problem now, because he has lost the plot 3 times in 3 games.
Not only will opponents be wise to him, but so will refs and pundits.
Ric used to be like that - it is possible to control those situations. Afellay should have done a Lineker and just lain on the floor so that only one person was going to be punished.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 30, 2015 11:54:04 GMT
I actually can't believe what I have just seen, and what I am reading. Is football not supposed to be a man's game? Neither of those are anywhere near being a red card offence. How referees, governing bodies, whomever whatever deem it appropriate to ruin a good game of football for trivial things such as that is beyond me. Days like today and instances like both of these make me wish I was watching rugby every weekend instead. Proper men, proper referees. Disgraceful. End of thread!!! People have paid forty quid for a game of football to be ruined by over zealous officiating. Laws of the game my arse. I agree. Sent of for a girly half-slap! A quick "Pack it in!" would have sufficed. I'm all for taking horrific tackles(missus!)out of the game, but if you are sending people off for that, it's a piss take.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 30, 2015 12:03:39 GMT
Afellay has got a problem now, because he has lost the plot 3 times in 3 games. Not only will opponents be wise to him, but so will refs and pundits. Ric used to be like that - it is possible to control those situations. Afellay should have done a Lineker and just lain on the floor so that only one person was going to be punished. And then he'd be crucified on here for play acting. I'm not sure about the signing of Affelay in general, though. I don't quite know where he fits in. He's obviously got the pedigree, but as you say, his temperament is iffy and I don't think he has the pace we need for our style of play.
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Post by penkvillepotter on Aug 30, 2015 12:05:01 GMT
If Affellay gets sent off for that then the game is finished.
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Post by march4 on Aug 30, 2015 12:05:16 GMT
Afellay has got a problem now, because he has lost the plot 3 times in 3 games. Not only will opponents be wise to him, but so will refs and pundits. Ric used to be like that - it is possible to control those situations. Afellay should have done a Lineker and just lain on the floor so that only one person was going to be punished. And then he'd be crucified on here for play acting. I'm not sure about the signing of Affelay in general, though. I don't quite know where he fits in. He's obviously got the pedigree, but as you say, his temperament is iffy and I don't think he has the pace we need for our style of play. I'm not suggesting rolling around holding his face. Lineker just lay on the floor to gather his thoughts and get his breath back.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 30, 2015 12:10:16 GMT
And then he'd be crucified on here for play acting. I'm not sure about the signing of Affelay in general, though. I don't quite know where he fits in. He's obviously got the pedigree, but as you say, his temperament is iffy and I don't think he has the pace we need for our style of play. I'm not suggesting rolling around holding his face. Lineker just lay on the floor to gather his thoughts and get his breath back. He responded to a slight touch with a little, girly "watch it, mate" tap. You'd think he'd hit him like Frazier hit Ali! Game for pussies now, March.
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