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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 15:53:24 GMT
Are we naive in this department .?
Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the red cards surely with 9 men on the pitch the question has to be asked .
Hughes seemed furious as he walked off the pitch at half time ......But with who ?
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Post by GrahamHyde on Aug 29, 2015 15:56:06 GMT
I don't think there's an issue. Just an odd string of events coupled with overly officious refereeing.
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Post by liathroid on Aug 29, 2015 15:57:58 GMT
Are we naive in this department .? Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the red cards surely with 9 men on the pitch the question has to be asked . Hughes seemed furious as he walked off the pitch at half time ......But with who ? silly things we done ,Ref over zealous ,but if they were against us
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 29, 2015 15:59:01 GMT
The two who will miss a game because of a petulant red card should donate that weeks wages to the DLT instead of picking up ££££'s for doing nowt.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 16:00:00 GMT
I watched Oliver the other week and I thought he was pretty appalling to be honest .
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 29, 2015 16:02:54 GMT
I watched Oliver the other week and I thought he was pretty appalling to be honest . When has he had a cracking match? Every match i've seen of his ends with a sending off. Seriously. Everyone I've seen with his crew is a sending off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 16:06:34 GMT
Fourth bottom on 2 points ....!
Need to get a grip before it gets too serious .
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 29, 2015 16:08:42 GMT
Affelay's red was over officious IMO. A stern word in his shell like would have sufficed. Unfortunately Charlie's reputation goes before him and, although it seemed like he stood on the players foot it may not have been deliberate. But as I said he does that and it's a red. Late in the game Arnie got his foot stood on in similar fashion and didn't even win a free kick.
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Post by MadridStokie on Aug 29, 2015 16:09:40 GMT
Fourth bottom on 2 points ....! Need to get a grip before it gets too serious . Yes, we are clearly going to have a disastrous season based on what we have seen so far .... Hughes out ... everyone out. Its not like they have proven they can take us to the top half is it. I mean it is only 2 seasons running that we are 9th. How many players did we have sent off last season ? That would maybe a better indication of the discipline engendered by the current management team (if they are to stay after such a woeful start to our season). FFS get a grip
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 16:13:21 GMT
Fourth bottom on 2 points ....! Need to get a grip before it gets too serious . Yes, we are clearly going to have a disastrous season based on what we have seen so far .... Hughes out ... everyone out. Its not like they have proven they can take us to the top half is it. I mean it is only 2 seasons running that we are 9th. How many players did we have sent off last season ? That would maybe a better indication of the discipline engendered by the current management team (if they are to stay after such a woeful start to our season). FFS get a grip I disagree with you .....I think we will at least match last seasons league position but there's no room for complacency.
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Post by gezzer on Aug 29, 2015 16:15:26 GMT
It's started early this season, the gloom and doom FFS August isn't over and it's Titanic time.
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Post by mailman44 on Aug 29, 2015 16:16:53 GMT
No issue with discipline at all, dodgy refs .... YES!
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Post by johnnydenz on Aug 29, 2015 16:16:45 GMT
Just when you're hoping we go out there and show the baggies and there manager no respect whatsoever we then find that a couple of own players decide to show their own manager a lack of respect,load of bollocks not good enough in all areas.
Sort ut out Hughes.
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Post by MadridStokie on Aug 29, 2015 16:18:39 GMT
Yes, we are clearly going to have a disastrous season based on what we have seen so far .... Hughes out ... everyone out. Its not like they have proven they can take us to the top half is it. I mean it is only 2 seasons running that we are 9th. How many players did we have sent off last season ? That would maybe a better indication of the discipline engendered by the current management team (if they are to stay after such a woeful start to our season). FFS get a grip I disagree with you .....I think we will at least match last seasons league position but there's no room for complacency. WHOOSH ... maybe i should have explained that I was being sarcastic ... your first post I think is OTT given we are only 4 games in
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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 29, 2015 16:21:19 GMT
I think we now need to realise that we can't give refs like Oliver any reason to make a decision against us. Easier said than done, especially when we're competing, but it's quite apparent that some of the refs like the limelight.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 16:21:52 GMT
I disagree with you .....I think we will at least match last seasons league position but there's no room for complacency. WHOOSH ... maybe i should have explained that I was being sarcastic ... your first post I think is OTT given we are only 4 games in Maybe I was responding with equal measure . Maybe you lived in Runcorn .
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Post by bertiestan on Aug 29, 2015 16:24:29 GMT
Charlie Adams a dirty twat
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Post by MadridStokie on Aug 29, 2015 16:24:42 GMT
Yep, used to live in Runcorn ... my user name used to be RuncornStokie ... guess where I am now ?!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 16:26:50 GMT
Palace fields ?
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 29, 2015 16:34:23 GMT
Affelay has played nearly 50 times times for the Netherlands. He has hundreds of league game under his belt. He's 29 years old. Does he really need Mark Hughes constantly telling him that when the referee, linesman, every player on the pitch, all the TV cameras and everyone in the stands are all looking at him, he shouldn't put his hands to an opponent's face?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 16:37:19 GMT
Affelay has played nearly 50 times times for the Netherlands. He has hundreds of league game under his belt. He's 29 years old. Does he really need Mark Hughes constantly telling him that when the referee, linesman, every player on the pitch, all the TV cameras and everyone in the stands are all looking at him, he shouldn't put his hands to an opponent's face? Neither should Craig Gardner but he seemed to get away with it..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 20:00:03 GMT
I believe we are naive in many departments, but I believe making these mistakes now will make us a stronger team
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 20:21:30 GMT
There's some good young promoted teams this season who are better than many people gave them credit for . It's easy to drop points and end up playing catch up if we drop our guard by getting players sent off. I suppose making theses mistakes early on hopefully will prevent it happening in the future . Either way it's a hard lesson loosing to a very poor team where three points were there for the taking . We can't afford to make the same mistake again . Losing one play is bad enough , but losing two is a disaster .
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 29, 2015 21:12:51 GMT
My understandimg is both will be thee game bans not one but stand to be corrected .
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 29, 2015 21:31:45 GMT
Think we should cut our players s bit of slack. Both were fouled by a fucking horrible pair of tackles particularly the one on Adam which at best looks ugly
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 21:56:41 GMT
Think we should cut our players s bit of slack. Both were fouled by a fucking horrible pair of tackles particularly the one on Adam which at best looks ugly Yes ....I think you're right , but we will face similar play acting to get our players sent off . We need to be aware of this and not react in anyway as difficult as that is .
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Post by mailman44 on Aug 29, 2015 22:06:17 GMT
Charlie Adams a dirty twat Not true. The lad is committed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 22:08:25 GMT
Adam played some world class passes today . I thought he was outstanding . Should start every game .
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 29, 2015 22:10:31 GMT
Charlie's game management is usually better than that.
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Post by nenepotter on Aug 29, 2015 23:14:54 GMT
Last season only 1 red card in premier league, so don't think any discipline problems. If anything we were naive in that Afellay and Adam should have gone to ground and rolled around with intent to get opposition carded.
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