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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 27, 2015 20:04:36 GMT
Germany have announced that they are accepting 800,000 Syrian refugees whilst the UK has accepted 216.
Shocking.
Surely Margaret Thatcher was right when she sang:
"What we need is a great big melting pot
Big enough for the world and all its got
Keep it boiling for a hundred years or more
Turn out coffee coloured people by the score"
Exactly.
And there's some big houses in London that could house lots of refugees.Buckingham Palace. St James Palace. Windsor Castle. Sandringham..to name but a few.
At least they would be put to good use.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 20:33:18 GMT
.........yes that's and a good idea . We are after all the perfect example of immaculate democracy , fair play and compassion .
Everything that they are escaping from isn't , but rather than adopt the same principles and ideology they don't .
They have dictatorships , medieval indoctrination , archaic religious beliefs and a hatred for Western values . Sharia law , beheadings , and the slaughter of innocents is common place . We are damned if we do , and damned if we don't .
It's a toxic mix of cruelty , terrorism and an overwhelming determination to divide and conquer ultimately creating their own country .
Personally , I'd leave them to it . I've seen enough . If they can't live a peaceable life and control their own , then why should I give up the front bedroom . Similarly , as rich and as aloof the Royal family is .....why should they ?
Would you ? Because you will be paying for it through your taxes . I'm sure they'd like the view across the Roaches ....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 20:45:39 GMT
We've prob taken as many or more but, kept it quiet from us plebs
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 21:29:07 GMT
I'd like to know if he'd house the fuckers himself .
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 27, 2015 21:56:29 GMT
We've prob taken as many or more but, kept it quiet from us plebs The UK has taken nowhere near as many refugees as Germany. You should probably read this - Attachment DeletedAttachment Deleted |
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 27, 2015 22:02:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 22:08:25 GMT
We've prob taken as many or more but, kept it quiet from us plebs The UK has taken nowhere near as many refugees as Germany. You should probably read this - View AttachmentView AttachmentWhy ? I'm British and proud of it . I'm not German ...or Syrian . If they want to absorb hundreds of thousands of refugees , then let them . |
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Post by stokeharry on Aug 27, 2015 22:14:41 GMT
We've prob taken as many or more but, kept it quiet from us plebs More I reckon mate. Despite what fake made up pro immigration propaganda floats around online |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 27, 2015 22:19:14 GMT
.........yes that's and a good idea . We are after all the perfect example of immaculate democracy , fair play and compassion . Everything that they are escaping from isn't , but rather than adopt the same principles and ideology they don't . They have dictatorships , medieval indoctrination , archaic religious beliefs and a hatred for Western values . Sharia law , beheadings , and the slaughter of innocents is common place . We are damned if we do , and damned if we don't . It's a toxic mix of cruelty , terrorism and an overwhelming determination to divide and conquer ultimately creating their own country . Personally , I'd leave them to it . I've seen enough . If they can't live a peaceable life and control their own , then why should I give up the front bedroom . Similarly , as rich and as aloof the Royal family is .....why should they ? Would you ? Because you will be paying for it through your taxes . I'm sure they'd like the view across the Roaches .... Totally agree They'd rather flee in their thousands and try to change another country rather than stay and fight to save their own country and mould it into a better place. And you wonder why the world is so unstable. Too much change is happening to fast and and it's creating a powder keg society. |
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Post by desman2 on Aug 27, 2015 22:31:15 GMT
Then people wonder why they rob the disabled and elderly so they can provide the cash to pay for all this shit.
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 27, 2015 22:32:32 GMT
They'd rather flee in their thousands and try to change another country rather than stay and fight to save their own country and mould it into a better place. And you wonder why the world is so unstable. Too much change is happening to fast and and it's creating a powder keg society. The reason these people are fleeing their homelands is because Uk, US and allies bombed and invaded Iraq under the guise of "liberation" from Mr Hussain. Those same allies forgot to think about what to do after the conflict - assuming that western-style law and order would evolve. Then ISIS rose up on the back of the disorder and rising local resentments and internal religious tensions, spread through and across the Syria-Iraq border, created a new state (IS) across that border and now it's utter mayhem in the entire region. The region is unstable for a reason. |
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Post by desman2 on Aug 27, 2015 22:37:31 GMT
They'd rather flee in their thousands and try to change another country rather than stay and fight to save their own country and mould it into a better place. And you wonder why the world is so unstable. Too much change is happening to fast and and it's creating a powder keg society. The reason these people are fleeing their homelands is because Uk, US and allies bombed and invaded Iraq under the guise of "liberation" from Mr Hussain. Those same allies forgot to think about what to do after the conflict - assuming that western-style law and order would evolve. Then ISIS rose up on the back of the disorder and rising local resentments and internal religious tensions, spread through and across the Syria-Iraq border, created a new state (IS) across that border and now it's utter mayhem in the entire region. The region is unstable for a reason. I thought they invaded under the guise of WMD. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 22:40:37 GMT
There's no western forces in the region .
Who are they fleeing from now ?
Why are they killing their own ?
Why are they slaughtering innocent civilians ?
The reason why the region is unstable is because they themselves are unstable .
Why are British Muslims fighting for the terrorist cause ?
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 27, 2015 22:40:47 GMT
The reason these people are fleeing their homelands is because Uk, US and allies bombed and invaded Iraq under the guise of "liberation" from Mr Hussain. Those same allies forgot to think about what to do after the conflict - assuming that western-style law and order would evolve. Then ISIS rose up on the back of the disorder and rising local resentments and internal religious tensions, spread through and across the Syria-Iraq border, created a new state (IS) across that border and now it's utter mayhem in the entire region. The region is unstable for a reason. I thought they invaded under the guise of WMD. Yep. The allies claimed Sadam Hussain had the capability to obtain WMD and that he had threatened and used them his own people (The Kurds in the north of Iraq). Main point is, though, that the Iraq conflict and subsequent rise of ISIS and instability in the region was a direct result of western intervention. |
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Post by desman2 on Aug 27, 2015 22:44:45 GMT
I thought they invaded under the guise of WMD. Yep. The allies claimed Sadam Hussain had the capability to obtain WMD and that he had threatened and used them his own people (The Kurds in the north of Iraq). Main point is, though, that the Iraq conflict was a result of direct western intervention. Wonder how many the Americans take in. Makes you wonder if they caused all this to not only distabilise the middle east but Europe as well |
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 27, 2015 22:51:20 GMT
who is buying IS oil and gas ?
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 27, 2015 22:52:10 GMT
Yep. The allies claimed Sadam Hussain had the capability to obtain WMD and that he had threatened and used them his own people (The Kurds in the north of Iraq). Main point is, though, that the Iraq conflict was a result of direct western intervention. Wonder how many the Americans take in. Makes you wonder if they caused all this to not only distabilise the middle east but Europe as well It may be worth looking up exactly how many refugees from the region the U.S. has or has intended to take in, alongside precisely how much support it has provided in terms of aid. I suppose it depends upon your own perspective. If you feel the allies genuinely wanted to get rid of Sadam, but cocked up the rebuilding of Iraq because they underestimated local and religious tensions in the region, then you could view it as a horrific accident. If, on the other hand, you feel the allies deliberately sought to destabilise the region then you have to factor in Israel and the Palestinian conflict, too, and then figure out precisely why. I don't think the "deliberate" approach stands up, really, given there are too many ponderables. On balance it was a horrific miscalculation which we'll probably pay the price for for a very long time. It isn't the fault of the refugees, it's the fault of those who caused the refugee crisis. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 22:56:44 GMT
I don't judge a man or his country on how many refugees he takes in .
I judge a man and his country on its democracy and success in the global market place .
As far as I am aware , no one has asked how many North Korea has taken in .
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 27, 2015 23:11:03 GMT
So why head to Europe? Why not head to rather wealthy and sparely populated states such as Saudi, UAE, Kuwait, ....?
Surely culturally they'd be far more at home there?
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 27, 2015 23:14:36 GMT
Yep. The allies claimed Sadam Hussain had the capability to obtain WMD and that he had threatened and used them his own people (The Kurds in the north of Iraq). Main point is, though, that the Iraq conflict was a result of direct western intervention. Wonder how many the Americans take in. Makes you wonder if they caused all this to not only distabilise the middle east but Europe as well Here's the U.S. input into the Syrian refugee crisis thus far: U.N. refugee agency has referred 15,000 Syrian refugees to the U.S. according to AFP News Agency; U.S. has contributed $4 billion in humanitarian aid to help with refugee resettlement; As of June 2015 the US has taken in fewer than 1,000 Syrians. www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/08/25/434576046/u-s-to-accept-up-to-8-000-syrian-refugees-next-year |
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 27, 2015 23:18:26 GMT
Here's the full breakdown, by country, of the number of Syrian refugees offered resettlement or admission (courtesy of UNHCR); www.unhcr.org/52b2febafc5.pdf |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 23:22:46 GMT
Here's the full breakdown, by country, of the number of Syrian refugees offered resettlement or admission (courtesy of UNHCR); www.unhcr.org/52b2febafc5.pdfHow many has Thailand taken ? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 6:43:18 GMT
We've prob taken as many or more but, kept it quiet from us plebs More I reckon mate. Despite what fake made up pro immigration propaganda floats around online This ^^^ As my old dad used to say ......believe half what you hear and all of what you see  |
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 28, 2015 8:32:57 GMT
More I reckon mate. Despite what fake made up pro immigration propaganda floats around online This ^^^ As my old dad used to say ......believe half what you hear and all of what you see ....and then you post a UKIP picture with a statistic plucked from the Daily Mail with absolutely no context whatsoever? That's the genius of irony. Good to see you've got a sense of humour though  |
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 28, 2015 8:40:10 GMT
Nobody can accuse the Conservative Party of lacking compassion now.
They criticised Labours Immigration (along with all the Right Wing posters on here) but they've allowed ten times more immigrants in.
Probably close to a million this year already.
But we're still way behind the Germans.
Why not build a tunnel from Calais under England that comes out in Wales? Plenty of space there. Immigrants could chop down trees, build log cabins and learn how to sing in Welsh.
"We'll keep a welcome in the Hillside"
"Land of Our Fathers"
"Your support is fucking shit"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 9:01:35 GMT
This ^^^ As my old dad used to say ......believe half what you hear and all of what you see ....and then you post a UKIP picture with a statistic plucked from the Daily Mail with absolutely no context whatsoever? That's the genius of irony. Good to see you've got a sense of humour though What I see on there matches what I see around me  |
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 28, 2015 9:13:30 GMT
....and then you post a UKIP picture with a statistic plucked from the Daily Mail with absolutely no context whatsoever? That's the genius of irony. Good to see you've got a sense of humour though What I see on there matches what I see around me It's reassuring to note you've cordially welcomed all 330,000 immigrants to this fair isle. As these people are immigrants and, therefore, neither illegal nor refugees claiming asylum, how many of the 330,000 people are working here and paying tax like you and me?  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 9:28:24 GMT
What I see on there matches what I see around me It's reassuring to note you've cordially welcomed all 330,000 immigrants to this fair isle. As these people are immigrants and, therefore, neither illegal nor refugees claiming asylum, how many of the 330,000 people are working here and paying tax like you and me? For you me and the man on the street it's bad news......for big companies and the government it's good news as they're able to lower wages If it was of benefit to us all to allow any tom, dick and Harry and in unlimited numbers into the country I'd be as happy as you are acting But it's not, unless your are looking for a mini china |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 9:39:33 GMT
Nobody can accuse the Conservative Party of lacking compassion now. They criticised Labours Immigration (along with all the Right Wing posters on here) but they've allowed ten times more immigrants in. Probably close to a million this year already. But we're still way behind the Germans. Why not build a tunnel from Calais under England that comes out in Wales? Plenty of space there. Immigrants could chop down trees, build log cabins and learn how to sing in Welsh. "We'll keep a welcome in the Hillside" "Land of Our Fathers" "Your support is fucking shit" Or just send each one a signed blank cheque to Calais saying regards from the british tax payer |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 9:50:39 GMT
This ^^^ As my old dad used to say ......believe half what you hear and all of what you see ....and then you post a UKIP picture with a statistic plucked from the Daily Mail with absolutely no context whatsoever? That's the genius of irony. Good to see you've got a sense of humour though It's been confirmed NET migration 330,000, total migration over 600.000 people came to the UK. |
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